We have another wedding coming up in August..the second son to marry this year. Our son is insisting his Dad rent a tux...a cost we really cannot afford. Dad has a nice soft black suit....think that will be ok? What is the traditional wear for the FOG? You'd think that with this being the fifth child to marry, we'd have this all figured out, but this is the first son to marry in a traditional ceremony in a church building. Any feedback would be appreciated....
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When our children were married all three in 19 months we had to rent a tux for our sons wedding; also our 2 daughters - all church weddings. Also when our daughters were married the FOG wore a tux.
I totally agree with you I think a black suit would have been fine; but seems we go along with the bride and grooms request. |
Maybe gently remind your DS that you just cannot afford this expense? If he still feels it is necessary, then he can pay for the rental :D:D:D
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When DH & I married all the wedding party rented tuxes, except my FIL. He weighed about 350 at the time so a tux rental was just not practical. He did wear a sport coat and that was fine with me. I felt the family being together was more important than the photo opportunity. Tell your son that if he insists that his father rent a tux, he can pay for it. Or better yet, ask him which is more important, his father or the tuxedo.
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Originally Posted by amma
Maybe gently remind your DS that you just cannot afford this expense? If he still feels it is necessary, then he can pay for the rental :D:D:D
And, FWIW when DH and I got married a decade ago I thought all the men HAD to be in tuxes (per tradition). Being older and wiser, I wish I'd have not been so hung up on all the tradition things and kept it simple, with folks wearing what they thought was most beautiful/handsome. You know, give a guideline (Like, please everyone wear dark suits, or shirts and ties). The FOG should be the next-best-dressed at the event, the groom being the first-best dressed. He is the pillar that has been there for his son from day one, and this is a proud proud day. :D |
We had 3 girls that married in churches. 1 was very small, #2 put princes Diane to shame, and the last one had her reception 4 mo. later and it was a picnic. Boy am I glad we don`t have any more getting married, it might be a circus. Any way for the big showy wedding, DH had to wear a tux. He said no way, so the soon-to-be SIL took his measurements (DH) and because they rented so many, they got 1 free. DH wore it in protest,and every one was happy. They are all still married and doing well.
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Three sons here, and when they all had traditional church weddings, ( plus daughter did too) all the guys wore a tux. That thing about renting so many at once may offer one free, make sure you tell your son about that, and that your hubby needs the free one! There has been a lot of money spent on tux rentals in our family, our boys had lots of good friends. LOL I understand the cost factor, but it does mamke a difference in the photos . Daughters wedding ,everyone wore long dresses and pastels, except the grooms mom. She wore a short red dress, and it rerally spoiled the looks of the group photos. Big deal??? Probably not in the long run, but it did seem to matter then. Talk to son!!!!!
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DH's 3 kids got married, first one wanted him in a tux and rented it for him (knew we couldn't afford it). Second one didn't care, third one rented him a suit (he does not have any that fit, he is not a suit kind of guy).
On the first one, we were talking to DH's brother about the tux and asked him if he would rent/wear one for one of his kids. He said he didn't mind the renting but would not wear one. DH was just the opposite. DH did look very nice in it, (sort of like the godfather) - he did not even wear a suit when we got married, so it was a treat to see him in one and have pics. |
We had 7 kids get married and only one requested tux. We never even gave it a thought. Most of the grooms did but it wasn't mentioned for the rest. Nice suits were fine.
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When our DD got married, her groom, bridemaids, groomsmen, and her Dad all rented their tux's. It was so much cheaper and no one was stuck with things they would never use again. The bridal shop she rented from let everyone pay over time so we weren't out a huge expense at once.
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Originally Posted by lauriejo
When DH & I married all the wedding party rented tuxes, except my FIL. He weighed about 350 at the time so a tux rental was just not practical. He did wear a sport coat and that was fine with me. I felt the family being together was more important than the photo opportunity. Tell your son that if he insists that his father rent a tux, he can pay for it. Or better yet, ask him which is more important, his father or the tuxedo.
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I guess the best bet to is be sincere, and don't be pressured into anything. If you guys aren't able to rent it and it's that important to the bride and groom, they can pick up the tab. Personally, if the rest of the men are wearing black tux's, I can't imagine a black suit will be much different to look at.
When we got married two years ago, we paid for the tux for FOG, as well as the dress for MOG. And we paid for a bridesmaid dress for a family member who couldn't afford it. I don't know what the tradition is in this area, but we knew they couldn't afford it. After having been in several weddings and then being a recent bride myself, I feel like writing a book on wedding etiquette - for the bride, groom, family members, wedding party, and guests. I always get irritated when people use weddings as an excuse for heightened egos... I hope you post updates, as well as pics of the big day! |
Originally Posted by amma
Maybe gently remind your DS that you just cannot afford this expense? If he still feels it is necessary, then he can pay for the rental :D:D:D
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Originally Posted by TonnieLoree
Originally Posted by amma
Maybe gently remind your DS that you just cannot afford this expense? If he still feels it is necessary, then he can pay for the rental :D:D:D
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"Tuxedos started back in the 1800s because the military always had full-dress uniforms for parties and formal occasions. The laymen didn't quite fit into the into the look. So, tuxedos started as a type of uniform for special parties and royal events in England. Everyone dressed for these parties, and the tuxedo came along as the formal way to dress for the person who was not in the military or part of the government." http://www.bscenemag.com/b-wed/tuxedo-tradition
Tux has only been a tradition for what 200yrs? More of a keeping with appearances than anything to do with sentiment or symbolism. Wear the suit. You don't "have" to have a tux. |
We just had DDs traditional church wedding in June. Both FOB and FOG wore tuxes. However, I do think it could be up for discussion if money is an issue. Personally, I think if both fathers were wearing dark suits it would be just as appropriate and, really, more practical. I have been to weddings where even the groomsmen wore their own dark suits. I would suggest a very frank discussion with your son and his his bride-to-be. While I love traditional weddings...there sure is alot of money spent for just a few hours!
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Traditional wedding etiquette dictates that the FOG wear can go either way. That's your "official" leg to stand on.
Your son decrees it needs to be tux. That's your parental love decision. Is it worth upsetting him (and her) on their day, and maybe for a long time to come, over the price of a tux rental? Jan in VA |
just a suggestion- some tux rentals give the groom a free tux with the rental of 4(or5)tuxes. maybe Dad's tux could be the free one if it's that important to the bride and groom?
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I think you should really speak to your son. Don't simply make a decision and assume it's good enough because a few people told you so on a quilting website. Since the FOG is an official member of the wedding party I think a decision needs to made together with the bride and groom. You might propose that you'll rent a tux , but forego a gift-- or work out some sort arrangement.
Heck, maybe the bridal party can all throw in $10 a piece to cover it. I know mine would have--gladly. |
Maybe it's a bride thing? Just wondering.
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My daughter got married last summer. The groom and groomsmen all wore matching gray suits that they all bought. Both fathers wear asked to just wear a gray suit that they already owned. This way all the guys had suits that they can wear for a few years and no one wasted money on a Tux they only wear once.
It's called trying to help the people in your wedding so they don't have to spend so much money. The bridesmaids all picked their own dress style they just had be the color my daughter had picked. Jewel tone purple. It all looked really nice. |
Hey I'd have your son check with the tux rental place and see if they could work a deal. Like Barbshobbies said they were able to get FOG's tux free. It cant hurt to ask. And it's usually the only way you get deals like that. I always try to get some kind of deal or freebie when I'm out shopping. Like today, I was at the used book store and between me and DH we spent $95. I was friendly with the young man that rang me up and then asked if he could give me a discount. He took $10 off the total. I do thing like that all the time and about 80% of the time it works, especially if the sales person gets commission.
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Unless Dad is a groomsman or best man, I think a black suit would be fine.
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Originally Posted by Jan in VA
Traditional wedding etiquette dictates that the FOG wear can go either way. That's your "official" leg to stand on.
Your son decrees it needs to be tux. That's your parental love decision. Is it worth upsetting him (and her) on their day, and maybe for a long time to come, over the price of a tux rental? Jan in VA What the final decision came down to yesterday was we went with the tux rental.....charged it on a card that pushed the usage up to about 85% of the credit limit....this is something that we DO NOT normally do..as we consider all cards at their limits when they reach 45% of their credit limit. (that way we don't overspend) I am not sure how I am going to pay this off, but somehow I will think of something. Christmas gifts will be more at a minimum this year..that's for sure!! Thank you all for your input and advise. Truth be told, I am just ready for this year to be over. The first son that married in April did so way too young (barely 19, she was barely 18), against our expressed wishes, and without our consent and agreement (which I realize in this day and age means very little)....it was a difficult day, eased only by having the Friendship Album squares there to have the guests sign. Now with this wedding coming up next week, I am looking at having to be around her family, who all think I am a nut job, and watch this son marry and hope he will be happy. (We have tried to talk to our son several times about all that happened two yrs ago, he refuses to talk about it...but to set the "record" straight, we have the proof that he was lying to us. We have finally given up on ever getting that situation all worked out).....I plan to just smile and be polite on August 11 and 12th, do my "job" as MOG.....grit my teeth and just get through it. I have decided August 13th is my New Year's Day....(and another son's birthday)....this is our last big "hurrah" with this son, and once it's over, we will not be helping him again financially. I truly cannot wait for the 13th to get here. Anyway, thank you all....I really appreciate your advise and insight...you guys all help me think clearer, feel not so alone, and make me smile. Thank you, thank you, thank you...... |
Just remember, even tho your son is getting married, there's a bride involved! You don't want her to be a bridezilla! I know. I know. Just another perspective.
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if you son insist, ask him to pay the expense.
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when I got married my husband to be was a farmer and hated tuxs and I came from a poor family so my hubby to be and I agreed he would wear a suit and he told his groomsmen and all for them to wear theirs. It was a simple and practical wedding. About the photos I thought ours looked good. To me they are a rememberance not a "Show and tell"
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FOG, it took me awhile to figure this out, but I did.
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In our family they sometimes ask the men to wear kilts.
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Originally Posted by lauriejo
When DH & I married all the wedding party rented tuxes, except my FIL. He weighed about 350 at the time so a tux rental was just not practical. He did wear a sport coat and that was fine with me. I felt the family being together was more important than the photo opportunity. Tell your son that if he insists that his father rent a tux, he can pay for it. Or better yet, ask him which is more important, his father or the tuxedo.
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If that is what son wants, let him foot the bill!
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It's the bride and groom's wedding - I don't think others should make issues with their plans. Start putting away some $$ for the rental and enjoy their special day!
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Originally Posted by amma
Maybe gently remind your DS that you just cannot afford this expense? If he still feels it is necessary, then he can pay for the rental :D:D:D
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When I got married 32 years ago, my father said he wasn't going to wear a tux... i said ok, but would you wear a navy blue suit? He was in agreement but in the end, he wore a navy tux. My FIL couldn't afford a tux and he wore his suit... pics looked just fine...
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this is not about the FOG and a tuxedo, but my grd daughter is to be married on Aug. 19, at home plate of our White Caps ball field., my question is this..... not being a dress person, I am planning to wear a beautiful lace top with new white slacks.... her only request was NO JEANS! sounds good to me !!
sound ok to you gals? |
Originally Posted by kaykwilts
We have another wedding coming up in August..the second son to marry this year. Our son is insisting his Dad rent a tux...a cost we really cannot afford. Dad has a nice soft black suit....think that will be ok? What is the traditional wear for the FOG? You'd think that with this being the fifth child to marry, we'd have this all figured out, but this is the first son to marry in a traditional ceremony in a church building. Any feedback would be appreciated....
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I think if Dad is going to be a member of the wedding party and all the wedding party men are wearing tuxes, he ought to match (and maybe your son should pick up the tab). Otherwise, nice suit unless it's very informal.
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Originally Posted by amma
Maybe gently remind your DS that you just cannot afford this expense? If he still feels it is necessary, then he can pay for the rental :D:D:D
I totally agree! He is not father of the bride and if your son wants him in a tux let him pay for it... |
Originally Posted by amma
Maybe gently remind your DS that you just cannot afford this expense? If he still feels it is necessary, then he can pay for the rental :D:D:D
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To lighten this up a little...for first son's wedding, DH wore a powder blue tux with blue ruffled shirt and navy bow tie, plus medium blue patent leather shoes! We were able to afford it, thank goodness, but he looked somewhat like a pimp!
Second son was easier, Navy whites with sword and medals. The 1st wedding was in the 70's and didn't last. The 2nd was 10 years later and is nearing 25 years! |
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