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Thread: Question about 'FLU MANNERS'...I guess?

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    How do you tactfully tell a doctor, a boss, etc. that you don't want to shake hands about 30 minutes after they sneezed on it, and just wiped with a tissue?
    I have heard that Purell and like products do not kill influenza etc. so offering them some, does not protect you.
    Even if they are not sick, do you want to know that was the last thing they came into contact with?
    How do you handle these things so that everybody saves face?
    I thought about saying, "I don't want to shake your hand, bc I may be coming down with something, but I don't want to lie." thanks.

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    hand sanitizers DO work. Rub your hands well, then allow to air dry. Washing your hands is the gold standard, but using warm water, soap, friction. As a nurse I use hand sanitizer dozens of times a day, and recommend it for all my patients in the home also.

    I would just simply say "I am being careful about hand contact during this flu season."

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    hey, that is a very good idea. Thank you!
    I'm still curious though. The hand stuff will kill flu germs?
    I use it religiously, but keep hearing that we are over using and it's not that affective.
    I keep it in my purse at all times, and wipe down grocery cart, etc.

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    I agree with SaraSewing...I do not shake hands hardly ever anymore...I just casually mention that with all of the virus's going around, that I don't think it is a good idea. I have not had anyone say anything or even give me an odd look... I also clean the handles of the grocery carts and use MY pen to punch in my pin numbers on key pads... and I use my sleeve to open doors.

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    You are lucky you only have to avoid hand shaking - I have to avoid KISSING! :shock: Dreadful, unhygienic French habit! I'm afraid I fib and do the 'think I'm coming down with something' thing. Or I just hold back and let them think I'm a rude English woman with no manners! :mrgreen: Although I know the childrens' teachers have put kissing on hold while the H1N1 epidemic is on - usually, they kiss each child on both cheeks every morning. :D

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    Here, EVERYONE kisses EVERYONE when they meet them. Hard to NOT do it. I usually just hold my breath. lol
    But, I've been taking alot of vitamins lately....well, since I finally got rid of the little bug I was fighting. Been taking one of those Airbornes daily too. All of us have.
    Hand sanitizer is a must while out and about. I keep a bottle in the van. Courtney carries 2 little bottles in her purse. I always wipe down shopping carts when I get them. Lately, I have seen sanitizing wipes at the entrance to stores for the shopping carts. Don't know how many people use them, but I do!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by k3n
    You are lucky you only have to avoid hand shaking - I have to avoid KISSING! :shock: Dreadful, unhygienic French habit! I'm afraid I fib and do the 'think I'm coming down with something' thing. Or I just hold back and let them think I'm a rude English woman with no manners! :mrgreen: Although I know the childrens' teachers have put kissing on hold while the H1N1 epidemic is on - usually, they kiss each child on both cheeks every morning. :D
    gee, k, that is a LOT of kissing! even on the cheeks, things are sometimes airborne! I don't blame you for whatever you have to do! :shock:
    geeza whizza...hope all that kissing doesn't, 'spread', over here, lol! :roll:

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlrnhi
    Here, EVERYONE kisses EVERYONE when they meet them. Hard to NOT do it. I usually just hold my breath. lol
    But, I've been taking alot of vitamins lately....well, since I finally got rid of the little bug I was fighting. Been taking one of those Airbornes daily too. All of us have.
    Hand sanitizer is a must while out and about. I keep a bottle in the van. Courtney carries 2 little bottles in her purse. I always wipe down shopping carts when I get them. Lately, I have seen sanitizing wipes at the entrance to stores for the shopping carts. Don't know how many people use them, but I do!!
    What is AIRBORNE, please?
    I am so glad to hear about all that you do. I use to feel a little embarrassed but did it anyway. Now I just feel like, I'll be smart, and you be silly if that is what you want!
    Hubby is feeling shunned as he is a mite sick at the moment, but I would expect him to stay away from me! He just made a doctors appointment for this afternoon.
    I have to go to town, and feeling like putting a bubble suit on, lol! I will just have a bottle in each pocket and keep using pp towels and napkins for doors and such. yes, I hate those button thingies. I hate to use my pen, but it's better than my fingers. I am an unconscious rubber, scratcher, feeler. Trying to break all those habits. With chronic itching it ain't easy. :?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loretta
    Tell ANY doctor or nurse that you would like to WATCH them wash their hands when they come into the room. That is why the sink is there!! I tell this to my doc and nurse every time I see them and using hand sanitizers is NOT as good as hot water and soap. One of my students did a science experiment using both and determined the hot water and soap worked best. (Hand sanitizers are still better than not washing at all.) Our church now has them in all the pews because we still shake hands for the peace. If you are shy about asking doctors to wash in front of you, tell them you have a germ phobia and really need to see them wash. That works too!
    LOL, my kids have teased me for years of having a germ phobia, but I learned to be extremely cautious, by working in a hospital! This has been a good thread for me. It is building up my self protection mode. I really appreciate all the feedback! :D at least we can still share ideas, with no worry...well, you know, LOL! :lol:

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    Airborne is a tablet that is full of mainly vitamin C and other good stuff. You put it in a glass of water and it fizzles like Alka Seltzer, but tastes much better! Hubby and daughter swear by it!!

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    A good thing to remember during the flu season is that cold and flu are spread by droplets. They get on your mucus membranes, like nose and mouth. It takes them a bit to get into your system, so blow your nose a couple of times a day, and gargle. Reduces the risk that they will take up residence. That is a huge reason for washing hands, so you don't transmit them from your hands to your own mucus membranes. DON'T touch your face!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlrnhi
    Airborne is a tablet that is full of mainly vitamin C and other good stuff. You put it in a glass of water and it fizzles like Alka Seltzer, but tastes much better! Hubby and daughter swear by it!!
    thanks Terri! I been popping vitamins and if we don't have that product, think we have something like it. ugh! have an intolerance to ascorbic acid, but I can deal with the pain and the itching better than the flu!

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    A good thing to remember during the flu season is that cold and flu are spread by droplets. They get on your mucus membranes, like nose and mouth. It takes them a bit to get into your system, so blow your nose a couple of times a day, and gargle. Reduces the risk that they will take up residence. That is a huge reason for washing hands, so you don't transmit them from your hands to your own mucus membranes. DON'T touch your face!

    thanks, sarasewing. I have been scratchin my chin and nose with the inner side of my gown. My hubby thought last night that I was 'masking' myself against him. I told him I am trying to break the putting my hands on my face habit. Geesh, I wouldn't care what he did to protect himself from me, if I was the sick one, as long as he didn't lock me outside, lol!

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    You can get Airborne at Walmart.

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    I have used the Airborne in the jpast, and need to get some more, don't know if it works, but will try anything right now. so much going around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k3n
    You are lucky you only have to avoid hand shaking - I have to avoid KISSING! :shock: Dreadful, unhygienic French habit! I'm afraid I fib and do the 'think I'm coming down with something' thing. Or I just hold back and let them think I'm a rude English woman with no manners! :mrgreen: Although I know the childrens' teachers have put kissing on hold while the H1N1 epidemic is on - usually, they kiss each child on both cheeks every morning. :D
    #1 I would have a heart attack if everyone wanted to kiss and/or hug me. I AM NOT a toucher. The very idea of people I barely know hugging or kissing me makes me cringe.

    #2 I pretty sure American teachers would end up getting sued if they kissed everyone. We must just be more standoffish than the rest of the world.

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    :lol: I don't think so Lisa - it'd be the same in the UK. If I meet a group of friends here who are some English and some French, I kiss the French and just go 'alright?' to the English! Different strokes! Kissing the English seems a bit false somehow! :shock: :lol:

    Kissing once or twice on each cheek is a typical French thing. How many times you kiss who and when is very complex - still haven't got the hang of it after 5 years! :shock:

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    We all need to be careful during cold and flu season. I also wipe down my shopping cart, wash my hands many times a day, and use sanitizer when I cannot wash. Avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth as much as possible.

    And the doctor's office is the worst place of all---all those sick people just make you feel like you are crawling with germs. I don't go to the doctor for anything "routine" this time of year.

    They now teach kids in school to cough into their bent inner elbow instead of their hands. It really cuts back on the "touching and spreading" of germs. I even saw a poster about it in the waiting room at the doctor's office. My grandkids have me trained now!!

    Our church has done away with a communal cup for communion and has stopped shaking hands for the sign of peace, too, Loretta.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa_wanna_b_quilter
    #1 I would have a heart attack if everyone wanted to kiss and/or hug me. I AM NOT a toucher. The very idea of people I barely know hugging or kissing me makes me cringe.

    #2 I pretty sure American teachers would end up getting sued if they kissed everyone. We must just be more standoffish than the rest of the world.
    Here in Florida, we wish the teachers would STOP at kissing!

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    My younger son has H1N1 and, so far at least, I think all this drama about it is hype. Perhaps we just caught it early or he got a light case but so far the worst thing is the coughing. I've had more debilitating head colds. Just my two cents worth.
    We are also teaching kids to cough/sneeze in their elbows. They remember to do that but they still put their fingers in their mouths or noses. That's what I'm working on in my classroom mostly now.

    I think the suggestion to simply say, "I'm being very careful of germs during flu season" would be all you need to say.

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    Do like Monk: awkwardly pull your sleeve over your hand and give a sideways nudge shake. Then start flapping your arms and yell in the most pressing tone "WIPES! WIPES! I NEED WIPES!"

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    My DD had H1N1 and we just used common sense around her. Wash hands often and don't share eating utensils and cover your mouth when you cough. I work in a hospital and wash my hands often and use hand sanitizer when entering and exiting a patients room. So far I haven't caught anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonpi
    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa_wanna_b_quilter
    #1 I would have a heart attack if everyone wanted to kiss and/or hug me. I AM NOT a toucher. The very idea of people I barely know hugging or kissing me makes me cringe.

    #2 I pretty sure American teachers would end up getting sued if they kissed everyone. We must just be more standoffish than the rest of the world.
    Here in Florida, we wish the teachers would STOP at kissing!
    LoL, moonpi! It does seem like there is a lot going on here! :shock:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadQuilter
    Do like Monk: awkwardly pull your sleeve over your hand and give a sideways nudge shake. Then start flapping your arms and yell in the most pressing tone "WIPES! WIPES! I NEED WIPES!"
    LMBO here Mad! I can hear Lucy from Charlie Brown, running around in circles: "Eww, ugh! dog germs! blech! blech! dog germs!" :lol:

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    well, hubby got irritated with me, Saturday morning, when he came up behind me and was going to hug me, and i jumped out of the way!
    Guess what?
    He went to the doctor today: both ears and sinuses are infected.
    He got a breathing/inhaler thingy with medicine to put in it. Something for cough, steroids and an antibiotic!
    Assistant said he was one sick puppy! I knew that! I'm using a mask if I sit in the same room now.
    I have enough stuff going on, just dumb to sit there and catch more in my own house! :roll:
    I'll make him some nice chicken soup tomorrow...and then run :wink:

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    It is hard to not hug and shake hands when you are in that habit, but we are doing a lot of waving at each other in church and not shaking hands. We will resume shaking when this is over. I, too, and trying to learn to keep my hands away from my face! It is hard to learn new things. Sneezing into my elbow is getting easier! :?

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