Quilt Police Sting Operation
09-23-2011, 11:26 PM
#11
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Just keep telling yourself: "No one can make you feel inadequate without your permission." Make it your mantra, primarily because it's true. The one who was inadequate was the instructor, and I know because I've been an instructor many, many times.
In order to give a good class, you have to have a well organized plan. That means that if people need supplies, the instructor needs to inform them of this via a supply list. She should also have back up supplies, and not just dull rotary blades, and the like. That's demeaning, and it's meant to be. "Come late or unprepared, and you get the dregs of what may be left." That's just petty.
The class needs to be well organized. You would not have come away feeling disorganized if the class had been well organized, and that falls entirely on the instructor. The instructor needs to be flexible, so someone arriving a little late does not disrupt the flow of the class. I always had people arriving late, and I'd pair them up with someone, or a couple of people, who had been on time, so they could catch them up.
The truth is, you had an instructor who may have had excellent knowledge and skills, but no clue as to how to get them across properly to her students. She was inadequate. And because it's hard for you to believe that she could be inadequate, you are taking the inadequacy upon yourself. Stop it already! I'm sure you are a wonderful quilter. And please don't let this stop you from going to future classes. But do yourself a favor next time. Go prepared, just in case.
Warmest Regards,
In order to give a good class, you have to have a well organized plan. That means that if people need supplies, the instructor needs to inform them of this via a supply list. She should also have back up supplies, and not just dull rotary blades, and the like. That's demeaning, and it's meant to be. "Come late or unprepared, and you get the dregs of what may be left." That's just petty.
The class needs to be well organized. You would not have come away feeling disorganized if the class had been well organized, and that falls entirely on the instructor. The instructor needs to be flexible, so someone arriving a little late does not disrupt the flow of the class. I always had people arriving late, and I'd pair them up with someone, or a couple of people, who had been on time, so they could catch them up.
The truth is, you had an instructor who may have had excellent knowledge and skills, but no clue as to how to get them across properly to her students. She was inadequate. And because it's hard for you to believe that she could be inadequate, you are taking the inadequacy upon yourself. Stop it already! I'm sure you are a wonderful quilter. And please don't let this stop you from going to future classes. But do yourself a favor next time. Go prepared, just in case.
Warmest Regards,
09-24-2011, 01:43 AM
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so, it sounds like you didn't start out really on the right foot-
showing up late is never really acceptable- the students who were there a few minutes early- had time to get in their space-and organized certainly do not appreciate having to wait on someone who doesn't care enough to show up on time-
so off to a bad start-
as for not being prepared- did you receive a supply list when you signed up for the class? should have-
if you are going to spend money on classes why not go on time and be prepared? then the class will be much more enjoyable for everyone- including you- and you will learn lots.
some shops do have problems with classes- instructors who are not that great- but if you are going to pay for the class it makes sense to go ready for the class-
then if the instructor doesn't teach you anything you could go to the owner and voice your complaints- when the problem is you- well you have no one to complain to-except maybe your mirror.
you should not give up on taking classes because of this one experience- you should learn something from it - go to classes on time- and prepared-
and perhaps check with others about instructors who is great to learn from- who is ...not so much-
showing up late is never really acceptable- the students who were there a few minutes early- had time to get in their space-and organized certainly do not appreciate having to wait on someone who doesn't care enough to show up on time-
so off to a bad start-
as for not being prepared- did you receive a supply list when you signed up for the class? should have-
if you are going to spend money on classes why not go on time and be prepared? then the class will be much more enjoyable for everyone- including you- and you will learn lots.
some shops do have problems with classes- instructors who are not that great- but if you are going to pay for the class it makes sense to go ready for the class-
then if the instructor doesn't teach you anything you could go to the owner and voice your complaints- when the problem is you- well you have no one to complain to-except maybe your mirror.
you should not give up on taking classes because of this one experience- you should learn something from it - go to classes on time- and prepared-
and perhaps check with others about instructors who is great to learn from- who is ...not so much-
09-24-2011, 02:43 AM
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Wow. I'm so sorry that you were treated that way. I would not give up on classes - but not take another from that person that's for sure. There are others out there...
Some people just think they are at a higher level than others. If only they realized that people are people and unless she's the Queen of England (and even then she should be bred well enough to know better) she shouldn't treat someone like that. I'm so sorry :'(
Some people just think they are at a higher level than others. If only they realized that people are people and unless she's the Queen of England (and even then she should be bred well enough to know better) she shouldn't treat someone like that. I'm so sorry :'(
09-24-2011, 03:19 AM
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Guess I read this differently than most. I read this as describing every teacher's nightmare - the student who arrives late and distrubs the rhythm of the class; not prepared with supplies needed and with a negative attitude that she won't learn anything.....In a 3 hr class I don't have time to deal with a situation such as this. There are x number of other students who did come excited, well prepared and well in time to allow the class to start on time. If the student had taken a class from the teacher described and didn't learn anything perhaps she should'nt sign up again.
My point is defending the teacher....the only thing said above was
"she seemed disturbed and said "more than 1"? What would you have said. Now the statement about "having something against her", doesn't give any definitive info so we don't know what was said.
I read this as a self confession and a reminder to the rest of us to: arrive on time and prepared with supplies required and with a positive attitude.
and one more point.....we teachers are not the quilt police we are learned instructors , considerate and respectful guides of the craft you love.
I'm not sure I understand the meaning of the post. Will someone enlighten us
My point is defending the teacher....the only thing said above was
"she seemed disturbed and said "more than 1"? What would you have said. Now the statement about "having something against her", doesn't give any definitive info so we don't know what was said.
I read this as a self confession and a reminder to the rest of us to: arrive on time and prepared with supplies required and with a positive attitude.
and one more point.....we teachers are not the quilt police we are learned instructors , considerate and respectful guides of the craft you love.
I'm not sure I understand the meaning of the post. Will someone enlighten us
09-24-2011, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDog
Originally Posted by lynn_z
didn't think it would matter if I showed up a little late
Maybe I'm missing the point.
09-24-2011, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Holice
Guess I read this differently than most. I read this as describing every teacher's nightmare - the student who arrives late and distrubs the rhythm of the class; not prepared with supplies needed and with a negative attitude that she won't learn anything.....In a 3 hr class I don't have time to deal with a situation such as this. There are x number of other students who did come excited, well prepared and well in time to allow the class to start on time. If the student had taken a class from the teacher described and didn't learn anything perhaps she should'nt sign up again.
My point is defending the teacher....the only thing said above was
I have to agree that you have a point about being late and not prepared yourself. As a student I think a person needs to be on time and prepared for the class. I also know there are teachers, people out there who are ready to put you down about anything. I hand quilt and my stitches are oft times not evenly spaced and sometimes are crooked but so be it! I try to make them perfect but I'm just not perfect yet!
"she seemed disturbed and said "more than 1"? What would you have said. Now the statement about "having something against her", doesn't give any definitive info so we don't know what was said.
I read this as a self confession and a reminder to the rest of us to: arrive on time and prepared with supplies required and with a positive attitude.
and one more point.....we teachers are not the quilt police we are learned instructors , considerate and respectful guides of the craft you love.
I'm not sure I understand the meaning of the post. Will someone enlighten us
My point is defending the teacher....the only thing said above was
I have to agree that you have a point about being late and not prepared yourself. As a student I think a person needs to be on time and prepared for the class. I also know there are teachers, people out there who are ready to put you down about anything. I hand quilt and my stitches are oft times not evenly spaced and sometimes are crooked but so be it! I try to make them perfect but I'm just not perfect yet!
"she seemed disturbed and said "more than 1"? What would you have said. Now the statement about "having something against her", doesn't give any definitive info so we don't know what was said.
I read this as a self confession and a reminder to the rest of us to: arrive on time and prepared with supplies required and with a positive attitude.
and one more point.....we teachers are not the quilt police we are learned instructors , considerate and respectful guides of the craft you love.
I'm not sure I understand the meaning of the post. Will someone enlighten us
09-24-2011, 03:58 AM
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09-24-2011, 04:01 AM
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I agree with Holice and ckcowl. I see this as a lesson to be learned for better experiences in the future. When I sign up for a class at my LQS they immediately hand me the info & requirements sheet, or if signing up by phone or email they email it to me.If someone forgets I ask for it as I plan to be prepared to get the most for my money. They clearly request you arrive at least 10 minutes before class to set up, earlier if you feel you'll need more time. As to being adult and "not a 5th grader" how do we require punctuality and manners in a child, but not us as adults?
09-24-2011, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Holice
Guess I read this differently than most. I read this as describing every teacher's nightmare - the student who arrives late and distrubs the rhythm of the class; not prepared with supplies needed and with a negative attitude that she won't learn anything.....In a 3 hr class I don't have time to deal with a situation such as this. There are x number of other students who did come excited, well prepared and well in time to allow the class to start on time. If the student had taken a class from the teacher described and didn't learn anything perhaps she should'nt sign up again.
My point is defending the teacher....the only thing said above was
"she seemed disturbed and said "more than 1"? What would you have said. Now the statement about "having something against her", doesn't give any definitive info so we don't know what was said.
I read this as a self confession and a reminder to the rest of us to: arrive on time and prepared with supplies required and with a positive attitude.
and one more point.....we teachers are not the quilt police we are learned instructors , considerate and respectful guides of the craft you love.
I'm not sure I understand the meaning of the post. Will someone enlighten us
My point is defending the teacher....the only thing said above was
"she seemed disturbed and said "more than 1"? What would you have said. Now the statement about "having something against her", doesn't give any definitive info so we don't know what was said.
I read this as a self confession and a reminder to the rest of us to: arrive on time and prepared with supplies required and with a positive attitude.
and one more point.....we teachers are not the quilt police we are learned instructors , considerate and respectful guides of the craft you love.
I'm not sure I understand the meaning of the post. Will someone enlighten us
09-24-2011, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by lynn_z
I walked right into it. I wanted to go a class, just a one night quick thing or so I thought. I had 3 hrs to learn what I wanted to learn so didn't think it would matter if I showed up a little late. I've only been to a few classes and the ones I've gone to before didn't require much so I didn't take much. Took enough precut pieces (barely) no thread, no seam ripper. I mean, if I have someone instructing me I shouldn't have to rip anything out...right? Wrong and I didn't even do the ripping out right. I grabbed my most abused rotary cutter because it was the only one I could find. Some of my pins had a little rust but when I said most of my pins were on other quilts I'm working on, she seemed disturbed and said "more than 1"? I am grateful she didn't have my address to check out my quilts or I would be in serious trouble. I left feeling very inadequate and as soon as I got home, I started organizing my needles and pins for the 1st time ever. Anyway, she did say something I can use against her if necessary. I would love to make this quilt be perfect so I could take it back to her and prove I'm nor completely inept but I think we all know that probably won't be happening anytime soon.
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