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    So sorry.

    I am so sorry to hear on the news this morning of the loss of 19 of your brave fire fighters. We in the UK are thinking of you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlett View Post
    I am so sorry to hear on the news this morning of the loss of 19 of your brave fire fighters. We in the UK are thinking of you all.

    Thank you for your concern. These kinds of fires are supposed to be Mother Nature's way of renewing the land, but we keep intruding on the wilds. Our hearts go out to their families. My uncle was a small town firefighter, never facing such an inferno.
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    I am so sorry too for the loss of these men. Woods need to be cleared every so often and dead trees need to be cut down and disposed of. That is the cause of all these wild fires. Those kinds of fires will continue to burn until someone figure this out.
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    Yes I heard that also, and we are deeply sorry for your loss.
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    They try to plan for everything, but this fire was to intense and fast. I was wondering if these men are ever able to get life insurance. volunteers for the most part. I feel for their families.

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    We heard that it was started by a lightening strike???

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    On behalf of the families, we thank you for your condolences. They're saying this fire was caused by lightning strike and the fire got hotter than the individual blankets could protect them. I can't imagine being in a room (very small at that) and the temperature is 200 degrees with breathable air. Prayers from the Gulf to the families in their time of need.

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    My prayers go out, such a loss!!!!

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    As a former fire fighter I can't imagine what the firefighters experienced. Their gear is so minimal compared to structural firefighting gear. I would take a structural fire any day, never a wildland fire. With structural gear you can tell when the heat is detrimental and you need to back out and in most instances, structural fire fighters are able to retreat to a safe place. Fire has it's own life, creates it's own environment. Wildlands firefighters, as in this incident, may not be capable of retreating. God bless them and their loved ones. I know they loved their jobs, firefighters are that way, very dedicated and devoted, love the job and the fellowship -not brotherhood- of their fellow firefighters.

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    Canada too, sends our condolences in this terrible loss. As the wife of a retired police officer I know the hazards that our emergency response people face each & every day & that all we can do is hope & pray they return to us safe & sound. God bless these special men & our prayers go out to their grief stricken families. May God grant them the strength to get through what lays ahead for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlett View Post
    We heard that it was started by a lightening strike???
    yes, lightening strike. the western united states is currently experiencing extreme heat for this time of year with temps 15 - 20 degrees above normal. some areas affected have also experienced or experiencing drought. these factors combined with unstable weather patterns created by the heat & turbulent atmospheric conditions spawning dry lightening storms, variable winds with high gusts create a dangerous scenario in drought stricken timber regions. wildfires, or any fire for that matter - i have done a tremendous amount of controled brush burning over the years - fire creates it's own winds. so add to the high winds of atmoshperic disturbance...disaster. the mountains and canyons make it worse. difficult terrain to manuever in, the updrafts, all of it. they were trapped behind a fire line when winds shifted. these men deployed their fire resistent foil type survival coverings which would allow them to survive as fast moving wild fire sweeps over them. the authorities aren't sure what happened. autopsies to determine asphyxiation or ? . the heat resistent tarps they wrap them selves in have melting point of 500F - 460F = ~237C

    our western united states is hot dry and prone to wildfires. . just as midwest prone to tornadoes, east to hurricanes. a land of tremendous beauty and incredible extremes of weather.
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    It just breaks my heart...These brave souls are to be admired...God Bless their souls and their familys.

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    We are praying for you firefighter families in AZ . Prayers and hugs to you all. The forces of nature are uncontrollable.

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    . Here's a poem from the Greyback Forestry Condolence site by Mr. Gordon Campbell. Mr. Campbell states :2008 lose of fire fighters>>
    "I am a father of a wildland firefighter currently on the Ramona Helitack crew in the Cleveland Nat'l Forest. Needless to say the recent crash in the Trinity Forest has been weighing heavily upon me. So heavily in fact that I was moved today to compose the following poem. Please feel free to use it in any memorial service that may be planned for the victims of this tragedy.">>
    I SAW YOU UP THE MOUNTAIN

    I saw you up the mountain,
    Walking through the haze,
    In sooted turnouts dusty yellow,
    Cast dark against the blaze.
    I'm sure I did. You can't be missed!
    You are someone I know.
    One I'll never fail to see,
    Where ever I must go.

    It was where I fought beside you,
    And then cried as you were lost.
    Right there beside the memory,
    Of what our fight has cost.
    I know that's where I saw you,
    And it's where I see you still,
    All double-time and courage,
    As we charge another hill.

    I saw you at the base camp
    With your cup, and yes, a joke,
    And the rasping of your laughter,
    Meant to wash away the smoke.
    You were with me in the chow line
    At the table saying grace
    And I prayed like anything
    "Just once, Lord, let me see that face."

    I saw you up the mountain,
    And I'll see you there again,
    And in every place they send me,
    Where the fire is, and then,
    I'll watch the plume rise upward,
    As it lilts from star to star
    Outward past heaven's wild lands,
    To where you really are.>>
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    This makes my heart ache that anyone should face such a horrific death. They were all such heroes throughout their careers. Praying for their families and loved ones.

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    So very sad for firefighters and even more for their families. Spent 20 years as Army wife (Desert Storm) was so hard on families wondering if our loved ones would come home, and I am sure families are in shock right now.
    God Bless them all.

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    My heart goes out to the families of these brave men. Firefighters are are some of the most courageous people I know. It is always so sad when any of our Firefighters or Police are lost in the line of duty. They selflessly put themselves in harms way to protect us, and we seldom think to express our appreciation for all they do. May they rest in peace.
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    I'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT AREA MANY TIMES- IT WAS LOVELY - WITHOUT FIRE FOR OVER 40 YEARS. HEARTBREAKING LOSS OF THESE HEROES. i HOPE THEIR FAMILIES CAN TAKE A LITTLE SUPPORT FROM ALL OF US AND KNOWING THAT EACH PERSON CHOSE THIS DANGEROUS CAREER. SERENITY FOR ALL WHO SUFFER.

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    So sweet to see so much support from all over the world. We are learning more everyday on who these men were and unfortunately who they left behind. A couple of these heros were expecting babies. I just cant even imagine. God bless you All , God bless these men and their families.
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    Nineteen firefighters were lost in Arizona, and Luke Sheehy, who grew up with my children, was lost in the same week in another wildfire. For those of us in the rural west, we pray for rain without lightning but often get lightning without rain. This has been the worst tragedy in my memory. My heart goes out to the families of all those who have died.

    Trees DO need to be thinned. Forest Service cutbacks and environmental groups who insist on banning even responsible logging have greatly increased the fire danger.
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    I live in a fire area too here in Grants Pass. OR. We are at MODERATE risk at this time and I am hoping that we don't get the dry lightning that is forecast for next week. We are grateful for our firefighters who risk their lives to save others.

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    also in Oregon, I wish that all the people with money who tell us we cannot cut or even thin all this forest stuff would put their heads on straight. mother nature has a good way of keeping things corralled, the native americans could not fight it happening and let it go. it was never as devastating as it is now. we cannot save these forests for our children's children's children no matter how hard we try. we are paying for the "booklearning" that forestry big wigs learned and stffed down our throats. don't get me wrong, I live where timber used to be one of the major industries and I now look at all the trees, and the ones that keep coming and I fear every summer because of the thoughts of the destruction that will eventually come. thousands and thousands of $ that could have been spent for good use is wasted fighting fires that should be just small blazes if properly taken care of...... (sorry if I offend anyone, but mother nature does a good job of taking care of her products. too bad that humans cannot do as good a job. )

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    Our firefighter first responders have really sacrificed this year: 12 in West, TX, 4 In Houston, TX, and now 19 in Arizona.
    Houston sends our thoughts and prayers to all of their families and loved ones.

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    We all where so sad to hear that on the news. Our prayers to there familys ..... they will be missed.

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