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08-31-2011, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sadiemae
Originally Posted by Glassquilt
If I remember correctly waiters, waitresses, barbers, nail people, gas station attendants, etc. get taxed on an assumed tip. If they don't receive a tip they lose money.
08-31-2011, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by icon17
I was the one who does it by taxs rounded up x2 BUT I will hand it to my waiter! in person. 8-)
08-31-2011, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sewwhat85
i understand all of that but the question i ask is why do the customers be paying a portion of the waiters salary (by tips) instead of the owner of the business be paying minimum wage to all of the employees. Could you imagine if we had to pay grocery cashiers, the lady at the dry cleaners, how about tipping the drive thru at Mc Donalds , or the produce guy at the market. I just do not understand why some job classifications are not awarded min wage.
08-31-2011, 05:19 PM
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Another reason to not leave your tip on your debit/credit card...it costs every business a small sum to process debit/credit cards. There are eating establishments in IN that are deducting that processing charge from the tip that is being left for the server! There are 2 particular restaurants that we like that do that and I was very disappointed to learn that they are treating their employees that way. Now, we directly tip the server ourselves...never leave it on the slip. We generally have a good idea before we go as to how much our bill is going to be so we ALWAYS take a cash sum to tip with and still pay with our credit card.
08-31-2011, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ptquilts
You don't tip at McD's, they get minimum wage, and people still eat out there. So I don't believe that argument.
EVERYONE should get a dependable, decent wage.
I think people who eat out are generally smart enough to figure out that low prices + tipping = high prices + no tipping. Works out about the same either way. Who knows, maybe more people would eat out if they DIDN'T have to tip.
EVERYONE should get a dependable, decent wage.
I think people who eat out are generally smart enough to figure out that low prices + tipping = high prices + no tipping. Works out about the same either way. Who knows, maybe more people would eat out if they DIDN'T have to tip.
wait people in restaurants don't get minimum wage, they get less. since they serve me, greet me, smile, make pleasant conversation, clean the table and chair and refill my coffee or soda cup, i think it's worth tipping an underpaid server.
you're right. everyone should get a decent salary. but they don't.
08-31-2011, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by butterflywing
Originally Posted by Sadiemae
Originally Posted by Glassquilt
If I remember correctly waiters, waitresses, barbers, nail people, gas station attendants, etc. get taxed on an assumed tip. If they don't receive a tip they lose money.
08-31-2011, 06:38 PM
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I'm paid based on sales performance. My salary increases if I do my job above and beyond expectations. My husband has to bust his butt to ensure he will continue to be sent on jobs. Everyone I know has to work hard and excel to get pay increases and job security. No one is entitled to anything. I tip based on service, nothing else. If the service is good, I'll tip 20-30%. If it's lousy, 2 bucks. I know how tight money can be but I don't take home a dollar I don't earn and I'm not going to hand out a lavish tip if I didn't get any service.
08-31-2011, 06:40 PM
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Our oldest Granddaughter, 24 has been a waitress since 16. There are people that gripe about the food and they don't have to pay for it and of course too cheap to tip. It is a hard way to make a living. It is taking her longer to get through college, because she has been trying to pay it all herself. At 24 she is able to get a couple of small pell grants and taking out three - four times more out in student loans. To go to college for 2-1/2 years, she will leave about $40,000.00 to $50,000.00 in debt. Step Mom won't let Dad help her, no other kids. Mom is a drug addict. She lives with us or she would not be able to even think of college but, will not let us help her, no matter how crafty and sly I try to be about it, She is a very good, honest and hard working young woman. I wish her Mom was a fraction of what this girl is. Her Mom is our youngest Daughter. We don't eat out offten, when we do we over tip because I know how crappy some folks can be.
My opinion - if you can't afford to give a decent tip then stay home. You won't take money with you when you die, so spend it now.
My opinion - if you can't afford to give a decent tip then stay home. You won't take money with you when you die, so spend it now.
09-01-2011, 03:09 AM
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Thank you for your posting! I am a hairdresser, and work in a salon for an owner. They deainately benefit from my work, and those tips are most welcomed! My clients are wonderful people, who for the most part are very generous! The few an far between ones are clueless, ie elderly who think $ 10.00 is a great price to pay for every other week shampoo & condition and style out! They fail to understand the products cost as does the time spent, that I could be doing someone's hair who WILL pay the correct price! I love these ladies,tho, and hope there is someone who will be nice to me when I'm 84!
09-01-2011, 04:59 AM
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I usually would not reply to this, but due to recent experiences will.
I was a waitress WAY back when we were paid about $2.50 an hour, and our tips were considered part of our wage. At that time we were not taxed on our tips. I am also a licensed cosmetologist. We had a draw we had to meet. As such it was minimum wage x 2 in order to make any kind of money. In many cases you do booth rental and have to pay both your rent and all of your supplies. Then people come in who think your prices are too high and "don't" have enough to leave you a tip. In today's economy that is more true than ever. I know how hard it is to make a living doing any kind of service work.
Fast forward to the job I had for a short time last year as an accounting assistant for an accountant whose clients are area restaurants.
The wages in Colorado at least are state and I believe federally mandated for restaurant workers. The wages for Non-wait staff are minimum wage. For people who are wait staff, it was $4.?? something an hour, basically 1/2 of minimum wage. Any of the taxes that are included on a Credit card receipt ARE reported as earned income. Cash tips may or may not be reported as such although when I was still doing hair, we were required to report a percentage of our cash tips by the employer. I can only speak for Colorado in that regard.
There are many who bust their rears every time for every customer, and never complain about their circumstances. I know that they deserve a better tip. I had a recent experience where the waiter was less than stellar. When the cashier questioned my appraisal, I replied that yes the service was ONLY OK! I have also experienced those who tell you every detail of every bad circumstance in their life. Are they fishing for more $$ because you'll feel sorry for them?
Essentially tipping should be about the service received. Better service deserves a better tip. As for the little ladies who tip a dollar for their weekly-bi-weekly hair, well I allowed a little extra compassion for them. they are on a fixed income for the most part, and still want to look pretty.
Happy Day!
Susan
I was a waitress WAY back when we were paid about $2.50 an hour, and our tips were considered part of our wage. At that time we were not taxed on our tips. I am also a licensed cosmetologist. We had a draw we had to meet. As such it was minimum wage x 2 in order to make any kind of money. In many cases you do booth rental and have to pay both your rent and all of your supplies. Then people come in who think your prices are too high and "don't" have enough to leave you a tip. In today's economy that is more true than ever. I know how hard it is to make a living doing any kind of service work.
Fast forward to the job I had for a short time last year as an accounting assistant for an accountant whose clients are area restaurants.
The wages in Colorado at least are state and I believe federally mandated for restaurant workers. The wages for Non-wait staff are minimum wage. For people who are wait staff, it was $4.?? something an hour, basically 1/2 of minimum wage. Any of the taxes that are included on a Credit card receipt ARE reported as earned income. Cash tips may or may not be reported as such although when I was still doing hair, we were required to report a percentage of our cash tips by the employer. I can only speak for Colorado in that regard.
There are many who bust their rears every time for every customer, and never complain about their circumstances. I know that they deserve a better tip. I had a recent experience where the waiter was less than stellar. When the cashier questioned my appraisal, I replied that yes the service was ONLY OK! I have also experienced those who tell you every detail of every bad circumstance in their life. Are they fishing for more $$ because you'll feel sorry for them?
Essentially tipping should be about the service received. Better service deserves a better tip. As for the little ladies who tip a dollar for their weekly-bi-weekly hair, well I allowed a little extra compassion for them. they are on a fixed income for the most part, and still want to look pretty.
Happy Day!
Susan
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