Welcome to the Quilting Board!

Already a member? Login above
loginabove
OR
To post questions, help other quilters and reduce advertising (like the one on your left), join our quilting community. It's free!

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 39

Thread: 301 singer question

  1. #1
    Senior Member kwendt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Coastal Florida
    Posts
    956
    Billy, I need your help sir... or anyone elses, please.

    What machine is this... and which version? I think it's a 301-b, right, but with the short flip up piece. aka, it's not a 'chopper' lol. But it looks like the motor is inside the machine itself...

    What is this sucker worth? Will this one FMQ, drop dogs and sew great? Pictures, hopefully attached...

    Is it worth $150 or what?

    301b? in corner cabinet open
    Name:  Attachment-163901.jpe
Views: 89
Size:  6.7 KB

    301-b? backside closeup
    Name:  Attachment-163902.jpe
Views: 86
Size:  7.5 KB

    301-b? front close up
    Name:  Attachment-163903.jpe
Views: 85
Size:  6.6 KB

  2. #2
    Super Member quiltsRfun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Utah
    Posts
    8,059
    Blog Entries
    1
    Looks like my Mom's 301. Don't know about the B part. What does it say on the medallian on the front? That's an interesting cabinet. Would be great for supporting a quilt as you put it together.

  3. #3
    Super Member irishrose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Cadillac, MI
    Posts
    6,582
    Blog Entries
    19
    I just bought the tan one like it this week. As far as I know, that one is a 301 or 301A. Mine is a 301A. 301s were made in New Jersey. 301As were made in Anderson in the Carolinas. That is the only difference. Can you drop the feeds? Yes? Will it FMQ? I don't see why not, though I haven't tried. It had better - that's what I bought it for. My new little lady has a beautiful stitch and I love how you can manuever the fabric aound even with the feeds in place. They came in tan, black and a two tone cream and taupe. The tan and the black can have either a short bed or a long bed. Mine is short like that one.

    Is it worth $150? I paid $60 for just the machine and she arrived cleaned and all ready to sew with a new cord and foot. I'd pay more for one in that cabinet. I love that cabinet - the color, the shape, everything about it.

  4. #4
    Power Poster BellaBoo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Front row
    Posts
    14,661
    Blog Entries
    2
    I have the dark tan 301. I love it. I don't know what it's worth moneywise because it was a gift but I wouldn't trade it for a new machine.

  5. #5
    Super Member tuesy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Home!.. Why? Where are you?
    Posts
    2,259
    I have no clue what the "B" is for.. I have a mocha 301, so I'm no expert on them other than they are total workhorses!

  6. #6
    Senior Member kwendt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Coastal Florida
    Posts
    956
    Thanks everyone. I'll call the lady tonight and ask her some questions. Yeah, I like the cabinet too. Very much. I'm not sure what the designation is between a and b. I think it has to do with the motor housing.... and I don't know which is better.

    By squinting at the pictures, it looks like the electric may need a new cord, or to be redone. If so, I might be able to ask for less. It's been for sale for a month... and I just stumbled across it today.

  7. #7
    Super Member Candace's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Outer Space
    Posts
    9,839
    I see people selling these here on CL from $50-$150 depending on both machine and table are in great shape etc. Of course, I've also seen people out in never-never land asking $450 and up and they don't sell. I think $150 is on the higher end. I probably wouldn't pay more than $50 for both, but I like a bargain.

  8. #8
    Super Member quiltinghere's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Longarm Quilter NW Indiana
    Posts
    3,489
    Blog Entries
    1
    For ME - for $150 the machine better purr like a kitten and sew like dream!

    I don't think I paid more the $60 for either of mine and they're pretty, unscratched, clean, and purr and sew with style!

  9. #9
    Senior Member kwendt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Coastal Florida
    Posts
    956
    Quote Originally Posted by quiltinghere
    For ME - for $150 the machine better purr like a kitten and sew like dream!

    I don't think I paid more the $60 for either of mine and they're pretty, unscratched, clean, and purr and sew with style!
    quiltinghere... did you just get the machine? Or the machine in the Deco corner cabinet too? The cabinet is gorg... however, I really wanted the 301 to be portable for classes, like it's little sis. I 'could' find a carry case for the 301, and put my 66-16 in the nice cabinet!!! According to Singer, it would fit. Hummm

  10. #10
    Senior Member kwendt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Coastal Florida
    Posts
    956
    WELL... the owner is out of town until the end of the month.... so I have some time to decide. I DID find out (thanks to ?? who posted the cabinet specs, that my 66-16, the 301A and the 201A I'm considering buying... can all fit in the Model 40 standard cabinet I already have. They'll also change out to the Deco cabinet as well - supposedly.

  11. #11
    Super Member Mitch's mom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    TN
    Posts
    1,435
    That is a much sought after Trapezoid cabinet made only for the Singer 301. There is no way on earth I'd get rid of the cabinet.

  12. #12
    Senior Member kwendt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Coastal Florida
    Posts
    956
    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch's mom
    That is a much sought after Trapezoid cabinet made only for the Singer 301. There is no way on earth I'd get rid of the cabinet.
    No No! I'd KEEP the cabinet. But singer site says that I can drop in my 66-16 or a 201 (if I get it) into that same cabinet. I could take the BIG sis FW (the 301) to classes with me! That's what I meant! Gosh no! Keep the cabinet!

  13. #13
    Super Member Mitch's mom's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    TN
    Posts
    1,435
    Oh! I almost had a stroke thinking you were going to get rid of the cabinet. Once you get the 301 cleaned, polished and running smooth, I don't think you will worry too much about getting a 66 or a 201. They are great machines, don't take me wrong, the 301 is just better suited to all areas of quilting.

  14. #14
    Senior Member kwendt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Coastal Florida
    Posts
    956
    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch's mom
    Oh! I almost had a stroke thinking you were going to get rid of the cabinet. Once you get the 301 cleaned, polished and running smooth, I don't think you will worry too much about getting a 66 or a 201. They are great machines, don't take me wrong, the 301 is just better suited to all areas of quilting.
    Thanks for that recommendation. THATS the kinda info I've been looking for.

    I've since found out by doing some research on the Singer site, and in Vintagesingers.com that THAT cabinet has a special release button or latch somewhere underneath. It was manufactured so that you could simply depress that button, and 'click' the 301 would detach from the special plate/cabinet. Voila! Away to class you go! I LOVE IT! It's made to sort of snap in and snap out! (supposedly.. anybody ever test this feature?). I'll need to find a case for it.

    Anybody know of a case that will fit it well? I don't care for the old grass matt covered one. And as I understand it, all the 301 cases were that smelly grass matt stuff.

    OBTW... will all the slant 'shank'? feet fit it? Like what was it.. the touch and sews feet?

    OH the fun! (um, and I like the simplicity of the quilt in your avatar... !)

  15. #15
    Senior Member kwendt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Coastal Florida
    Posts
    956
    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch's mom
    Oh! I almost had a stroke thinking you were going to get rid of the cabinet. Once you get the 301 cleaned, polished and running smooth, I don't think you will worry too much about getting a 66 or a 201. They are great machines, don't take me wrong, the 301 is just better suited to all areas of quilting.
    Sorry MMom... I also forgot to say that I've GOT a working 66-16 in the 40 cabinet already. It was my gram's machine. It's interesting that both machines would 'fit' into the both beds. I have to refinish the 40 cabinet... the top varnish has been compromised by tape.

    When we moved to south florida. Some bright idiot (er not me) used clear packing tape and WOUND IT AROUND the cabinet to keep the top from flying open or the front drawer from tipping out, etc. Grr... EX EX BF! When I took the tape off, it lifted whole sections of the varnish down to the wood.

    I think Billy's got a tutorial on refinishing the cabinets. I'm waiting on it...

  16. #16
    Super Member quiltsRfun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Utah
    Posts
    8,059
    Blog Entries
    1
    [quote=kwendt]
    Quote Originally Posted by Mitch's mom
    When we moved to south florida. Some bright idiot (er not me) used clear packing tape and WOUND IT AROUND the cabinet to keep the top from flying open or the front drawer from tipping out, etc. Grr... EX EX BF! When I took the tape off, it lifted whole sections of the varnish down to the wood.
    Is that why it's EX EX BF? - LOL - Might do it for me.

  17. #17
    Super Member thepolyparrot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Mars
    Posts
    2,038
    Quote Originally Posted by kwendt
    THAT cabinet has a special release button or latch somewhere underneath. It was manufactured so that you could simply depress that button, and 'click' the 301 would detach from the special plate/cabinet.
    On most 301's fitted into a cabinet, there is a cradle clamp that grabs the bottom of the machine and fits onto the hinge pins of the cabinet. There are two little metal brackets inside the front lip of the cabinet that catch this cradle and hold it in place. To take the machine out, you just push a lever down and lift on the handle of the machine at the same time and you have a portable machine.


    OBTW... will all the slant 'shank'? feet fit it? Like what was it.. the touch and sews feet?
    The 301 will take most of the slant shank attachments made for the 401, 403, 404, 500, 503, and for the early 600 series Touch & Sew.

    It will need an even feed foot that has been modified to fit the 301, but an ordinary $3 plastic hopping foot works just fine for free-motion quilting.

    It will take the buttonholer for slant shank (usually found in the maroon case or the pink "Jetson's" case) and the rectangular feed dog cover.

    I would buy it in a heartbeat, especially in that trapezoid cabinet! Have fun with it! :)

  18. #18
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    136
    I just bought a 301 & it arrived today....It sews like a dream
    perfectly balanced stitch...but....The bobbin winder won't work
    the machine doesn't look like it was used much...but the
    bobbin doesn't move to wind....I loosened the locking knob
    as you are told to...pressed the winder up as shown in the
    book....but just won't turn...sometimes...it will turn a couple
    of times...but then no more.....does anyone know if maybe
    that little rubber tire on the bobbin winder might need to be
    changed...I've seen where you can buy them on E-Bay.

    Peg

  19. #19
    Senior Member kwendt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Coastal Florida
    Posts
    956
    Quote Originally Posted by thepolyparrot
    Quote Originally Posted by kwendt
    THAT cabinet has a special release button
    On most 301's fitted into a cabinet, there is a cradle clamp that grabs the bottom of the machine and fits onto the hinge pins of the cabinet. There are two little metal brackets inside the front lip of the cabinet that catch this cradle and hold it in place. To take the machine out, you just push a lever down and lift on the handle of the machine at the same time and you have a portable machine.


    OBTW... will all the slant 'shank'? feet fit it? Like what was it.. the touch and sews feet?
    The 301 will take most of the slant shank attachments made for the 401, 403, 404, 500, 503, and for the early 600 series Touch & Sew.

    It will need an even feed foot that has been modified to fit the 301, but an ordinary $3 plastic hopping foot works just fine for free-motion quilting.

    It will take the buttonholer for slant shank (usually found in the maroon case or the pink "Jetson's" case) and the rectangular feed dog cover.

    I would buy it in a heartbeat, especially in that trapezoid cabinet! Have fun with it! :)
    Gosh!!! I'm so anxious and excited, but I have to be patient and hope for the best. The person will not be back in town until the 31st.... They know I'm interested, but.... well... until it's in my car.....

  20. #20
    Super Member thepolyparrot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Mars
    Posts
    2,038
    Quote Originally Posted by pegstar
    I just bought a 301 & it arrived today....It sews like a dream
    perfectly balanced stitch...but....The bobbin winder won't work
    Peg, is it possible that there is oil on the handwheel where the rubber ring turns against it? Try cleaning that part of the handwheel and the rubber ring and see if that helps.

    Also, there is a little tiny hole where you need to put a drop of oil so that the pin spins freely.

    The rubber ring may indeed need replacing, but try these two things first. If you have any other old Singers around, chances are that they've got the same rubber ring - see if that one makes the 301's bobbin winder work correctly. :)

    Have fun!

  21. #21
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    136
    Pollyparrot..

    Thanks for the response....I did put oil in the small whole on
    the bobbin winder...checked...no oil on hand wheel...when
    I try to turn the small black wheel on the bobbin wire it won't
    turn....I have a featherweight...I will check to see if it has the
    same wheel....if not guess I will order one...they are only
    about 90 cents...If that doesn't work...I live close to Syracuse,
    NY, where there is a man who repairs old Singer machines and
    I hear that he is very good...so will take it to him.

    Thank you for writing.

    Peg

  22. #22
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    136
    Oops.....that should be small hole on bobbin winder!!!

  23. #23
    Super Member thepolyparrot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Mars
    Posts
    2,038
    If the small black wheel (tire, ring) on the bobbin winder isn't turning at all, it might be full of gunk (dried oil) on the inside around the axle.

    If I remember correctly, the FW uses the same size ring, so you can try that, too, but it sounds to me like the axle needs to be cleaned.

    I would try dripping Liquid Wrench or Kroil or some other penetrating oil into the oil port, then trying to turn that "tire" by hand. If you can break the hardened gunk loose and then just let it sit overnight, the penetrating oil can get into the cracks to soften up the old oil and lubricate the axle so that it can turn freely, again.

    The old stuff will partially work its way out of the oiling port so that you can wipe it away and drip in some fresh penetrating oil. Just keep working on it and I'll bet it works fine within just a few days.

    You may have to disassemble the bobbin winder to clean the axle area, but I think the penetrating oil will work well enough to avoid that. Good luck and have fun with your new baby. :)

  24. #24
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Posts
    136
    Just wanted to let you know...the problem with the bobbin
    winder was caused by the little rubber tire on it....I ordered
    a new one...arrived in about 2 days....put it on today and I'm
    back in business....don't have to wind my bobbins on my
    featherweight anymore.

    Thanks to all who offered advice.

    Peg

  25. #25
    Senior Member so-sew's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    659
    Ok, you guys! I just bought a 301 in a trapazoid table. She was in the back of a thrift shop storage room and so dirty and nasty looking that I think she was doomed for the dumpster. I asked for a price and paid them what they wanted....I HAD to save the old girl. I could tell she had been a loyal worker for many years.

    Before I read this thread, I took the machine out of the table and am in the process of cleaning it. (Which it REALLY needed-have worked 9 hours on it so far and it's still needing more elbow grease). I want this machine to be portable, so I took all the hardware off the cabinet that belonged to the cradle and knee controller with the intention of selling them for a reasonable price. I'm not looking to get rich, only attempting to make the price I paid for the old girl seem a little less steep to me. I intended to ditch the table, which is in less than perfect condion, but still funcional if reassembled. Now what???? I always feel terrible throwing anything away that someone may want. Anyone interested? I live in Wisconsin and I'd be happy to give the table to the first person to come for it.

    The 301 came with a zig zagger and button holer, which I know I'll never use. Those will be for sale too, along with the cradle. Maybe I'll make it a "lot" of items and sell it all for one low price. How about $20 plus shipping? What do you all think of that price?

    Can you tell I'm confused?

Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.