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Thread: Appalled on Ebay

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    So I'm selling one of my machines that I bought used and have had nothing but trouble with it. I had it up for a 99cent starting bid but a $40 reserve. Shipping was around $40 I think (was going with what other machines had listed although it was high)

    In the last 3 minutes of the auction, some one messages me complaining about the shipping price and that they wanted to buy the machine.... They only bid the starting bid O.o

    I gotta say, would some one REALLY think that I would let a machine go for less than a dollar? I'd like to at least get back what I paid for it.

    The funny thing is that ebay does say when the reserve has not been met......

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    If you offer it to them for free, they'll want you to deliver it and throw in some fabric.

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    Don't forget to also give them a quilt you have sewn to show the machine works!!!!!! (I hope everyone knows I'm kidding)

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    I don't understand why people use the reserve price. Why not figure what the lowest $ you will take and add the cost of shipping to the price (offering free shipping). There has been things I wanted but if no one else bids I couldn't get my bid to go up to the reserve price. So if you wanted $40. for the item and $40. for shipping - ask $80. w/ free shipping.

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    If you bid the reserve price it will automatically go up to it. And because I've tried the way you suggest and not gotten any bids + paid more ebay fees for the higher starting price

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    Don't sweat the small stuff...I've had the same thing happen. Someone didn't want to pay for priority, flat rate shipping of $11.00, although it specified that in the auction. They wanted me to throw the heavy, large, vintage sewing machine item, in a padded envelope, after they'd won the auction. Yeah, right. I stood my ground and said, "Nope".

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjeriann
    I don't understand why people use the reserve price. Why not figure what the lowest $ you will take and add the cost of shipping to the price (offering free shipping). There has been things I wanted but if no one else bids I couldn't get my bid to go up to the reserve price. So if you wanted $40. for the item and $40. for shipping - ask $80. w/ free shipping.

    Quote Originally Posted by bookworm
    If you bid the reserve price it will automatically go up to it. And because I've tried the way you suggest and not gotten any bids + paid more ebay fees for the higher starting price
    Exactly. The reserve price is meant to protect both the seller and the buyer. It saves the seller on higher listing fees, and the buyer can still tell if the item will be beyond what they want to pay.

    In an ebay auction, the best thing to do in all situations is think about the MAXIMUM you would pay for an item. Bid that amount. If there is a reserve, and your maximum bid doesn't meet the reserve, just move on- clearly they are asking more than you think the item is worth.

    If there is no reserve or it has been met, having your maximum bid in there serves as an "autobid" function, so it'll continue to bid for you if other people are bidding, all the way up to your max bid. Again, if you lose out on the item no worries- it went for more than you were willing to pay! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace
    Don't sweat the small stuff...I've had the same thing happen. Someone didn't want to pay for priority, flat rate shipping of $11.00, although it specified that in the auction. They wanted me to throw the heavy, large, vintage sewing machine item, in a padded envelope, after they'd won the auction. Yeah, right. I stood my ground and said, "Nope".

    Good grief what a silly chucklehead! $11 flat rate shipping would be a steal! When I bought my machine on ebay they had pictures of how they wrapped it- it was practially mummified, and cost nearly $50, but I was perfectly fine with that...better than it being damaged en route!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace
    Don't sweat the small stuff...I've had the same thing happen. Someone didn't want to pay for priority, flat rate shipping of $11.00, although it specified that in the auction. They wanted me to throw the heavy, large, vintage sewing machine item, in a padded envelope, after they'd won the auction. Yeah, right. I stood my ground and said, "Nope".
    O.o Crazy people

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    Have you tried Craigslist? I've had pretty good luck selling things there. Yes, you do get people asking you to cash a check and mail them the difference but there are honest real people that buy things there as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaevren
    Quote Originally Posted by Candace
    Don't sweat the small stuff...I've had the same thing happen. Someone didn't want to pay for priority, flat rate shipping of $11.00, although it specified that in the auction. They wanted me to throw the heavy, large, vintage sewing machine item, in a padded envelope, after they'd won the auction. Yeah, right. I stood my ground and said, "Nope".

    Good grief what a silly chucklehead! $11 flat rate shipping would be a steal! When I bought my machine on ebay they had pictures of how they wrapped it- it was practially mummified, and cost nearly $50, but I was perfectly fine with that...better than it being damaged en route!
    It wasn't a machine I was shipping:> But a largish attachment. People get cranky when they pay $7 for an item and it costs $11 to ship it. But shoot, it's not like it's a surprise or I have any control over that. And if it's too much, they shouldn't bid! :>

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    Actually lots of sellers sell things for 99 cents or other cheap prices and make it up on the shipping.

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    Candace -- I love your avatar!!!

    When we buy on ebay, we look at the buy it now price and if it seems reasonable we go that way instead of bidding.

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    I've noticed some pick up only on Ebay. but thats all I know. i think you were right!!better to pay more and have it arrive safely!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjeriann
    I don't understand why people use the reserve price. Why not figure what the lowest $ you will take and add the cost of shipping to the price (offering free shipping). There has been things I wanted but if no one else bids I couldn't get my bid to go up to the reserve price. So if you wanted $40. for the item and $40. for shipping - ask $80. w/ free shipping.
    I agree. If I wanted $20 for something, I would start the bidding at say $18.50. Or do a "Buy It Now" for the price you want. I usually don't waste my time with Reserve bids, because it takes too long to move, and you don't know what the seller wants. It's too much of a guessing game.

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    plus you get all the people emailing you wanting to know what the reserve is...

    I once sold a very beat up machine on ebay, a long time ago, for $.99 and shipping was about $40. Got glowing feedback too. You never know.

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    I would mind if it showed the reserve honestly. I just put it back up for $60 or best offer. Figuring that I'll take 35-40

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    Just a suggestion, try Craig's list. Things sell like crazy there. There is not timel limit for the posting. You pay nothing to them. You don't have to ship, because it can be picked up locally, and you can set your price or chose best offer, which you don't have to accept, if it is not a good one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjeriann
    I don't understand why people use the reserve price. Why not figure what the lowest $ you will take and add the cost of shipping to the price (offering free shipping). There has been things I wanted but if no one else bids I couldn't get my bid to go up to the reserve price. So if you wanted $40. for the item and $40. for shipping - ask $80. w/ free shipping.
    I have been selling my fabric the last year and a half on eBay. I agree with bjeriann. You have to get very creative with selling. Recently eBay has been have one day sale on their listings fee. Last time it was a penny for a listing at any cost !! I would have a starting bid of $80 and free shipping. Good Luck !!
    :mrgreen:

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    Super Member ptquilts's Avatar
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    are you not getting the 50 free listings a month, no matter what the starting price is?

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    I never bid on "reserve" because I know it's more then I'm willing to pay.

    Shipping is suppose to be the actual amt of shipping not extra because a person wants more money...That's why on buyers Feedback you have to state if shipping was accurate. If not, your percentage goes down from 100%. People can complain to ebay if they see you are charging more then the actual shipping...and ebay will kick you off.

    If I have a large item I use ebay calculator that asks for the size box, weight etc...and then they automatically figure out shipping costs for each bidder...

    If I saw 40.00 shipping that's an automatic no bid from me even with .99 starting price because I know your adding costs into your shipping...

    I've sold heavy sewing machines and shipping was no more then 27.00 via the post office...shipping from NY out to CA...And another machine was 18.00 to FL...

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    Myself, I don't even bid on the auctions that have reserve
    on them. If I really want the item, I will put my max and accept the shipping cost that is stated. If I don't like the high shipping then I don't even bother to bid.

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    Hey, I admit that I put the shipping way too high. But I'm sticking with the reserve. I'm not gonna accidentally sell a machine for next to nothing

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    IMHO, shipping consists of more than the price to actually mail the item. It can legitimately include the packing materials, your cost in getting the item to the post office/mailing store, as well as your time in safely packaging the item. Sometimes it's obvious that the seller is trying to make up for a cheap sales price by inflating the shipping charge, but that's not the only reason for a big shipping fee. If I were going to ship a sewing machine, I would be putting a lot of time and effort into safely packing it, and I would feel perfectly justified charging for that.

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    If they didn't like the shipping price they shouldn't have even considered bidding in the first place. It sounds like they waited until the last few minutes of the auction to contact you hoping that you wouldn't want to relist the machine and so would sell it to them cheap.

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