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Thread: Beginning quilt classes that want perfection!!

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    Beginning quilt classes that want perfection!!

    My sister-in-law is learning how to quilt. She went to her LQS (she lives in Albuquerque) and signed up for a class. The teachers are uber-perfectionists, to the point where if your seam isn't a perfect 1/4", you have to rip it out. Her machine is doing a fat 1/4" (which I told her not to worry too much, since all of her pieces will be a tad shorter, so it evens out), but they freaked out and told her it's awful. UGH!! It really bugs me since that is not how you teach new students! At my LQSs (in Tucson), they were always super nice. They explained how to adjust to get the right seam and ways to pin for accurate points but would never make you tear something out because it wasn't perfect (though I did have to tear out once because I sewed too far in and it threw off the block, but that was a construction issue, not a seam issue). And looking back at my first quilts, they were okay but not great (which is expected) and I DIDN'T GET DISCOURAGED SINCE I HAD KIND TEACHERS. I've repeatedly told her to not get discouraged or worry and such. It's just really bugging me, since that's such a bad way to teach anything. But especially something where it's practice makes perfect.
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    Not every one can teach ;-)

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    IF YOU LOOK CLOSE ENOUGH YOU CAN ALWAYS FINE SOMETHING WRONG FOR WE ARE HUMAN AND NO HUMAN IS PERFECT SO OURS QUILTS IS NOT ALWAYS TO PERFECTION.qUILTING IS FOR FUN NOT STRESS!!! TELL HER TO GET ANOTHER TEACHER.

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    If my first quilting teacher had been like that I doubt that I would be quilting today. Instead she showed me how to salvage the quilt after I made a mess of it. I value that lesson, since I still make a mess of it on a semi-regular basis. That being said, it is good to learn at the start how to make 1/4" seams, but not at the expense of feeling like a failure because your seams aren't perfect to begin with.

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    My first quilt teacher was like that, and, unfortunately my Mom was in the class and she does not, I repeat, does not follow directions well. The teacher was beside herself. She wasn't much of a warm and cuddly person to begin with, had just published a quilt book that became very popular, and admitted she was only teaching the class because she had commited to this one last one. By the time the six or so weeks of class were over you could tell she could barely look at my Mom, as well as another lady who was a bit of a challenge as well. On the last nigth of class someone asked if there were any guilds or clubs for quilting and the teachers response was "yes, but they are not for people like this group, they are for real quilters". I just about gave up on quilting, but, I already knew I was bitten with the bug, and fortunately, my Mom convinced me that we should try another class with a different teacher. She was right, the next class was a dream, despite my Mom being the problem child...... again...LOL
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    you should encourage your sister to try a different class-taught by someone else- some are like that- but i don't believe it's the majority- i think most teachers are more (accepting) of beginners....especially if it is a beginner class. when we had the sewing school we did not really stress perfection at all- i have one friend who makes great quilts- and her seams are always----horrible- they range from 1/4" up to an inch---seriously! but she makes it all work and the quilts turn out beautiful. i do wish she would start (she's been quilting 5 or 6 years now) to work on technique- but she really has no interest in worrying about it- she does on occassion take a class at a lqs---she just ignores them if they get===picky===she did get up and walk out of one class once---but it didn't slow her down-she just decided if that was the teacher she wouldn't take that class- she would talk one of (us-her friends) into taking it to learn the technique- then we can show her...
    tell her not to let one bad teacher spoil the fun==
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    I think I would give up, in my mind I'd have failed at my lessons.

    I don't think this woman should be teaching!
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    Well since I didn't have a teacher except for books and utube, I couldn't handle that . I am sorry for her, maybe she should find another class. I would love to have been able to take classes, sounds like they want everything perfect when nothing is except God. Even they make mistakes, they might not won't admit it. They didn't start out perfect

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    You are so right to offer her encouragement. I feel so bad that her experience is a bad one and it is so unnecessary. This perfectionist is ruining the quilting experience for a newbie. I bet her work is not 100% perfect either.

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    I don't take classes for that reason. I have taken a few, but seemed to get lost about half way thru and have to finish the project at home. I am self taught, my seams are good and most of my points are sharp. I spend my money on fabric.

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    Unfortunately, one needs to search for good teachers as one does for good friends. I have been put off needle turn applique because I was ignored by the teacher and received no instruction. She needs to hang in there and get more experience and she will meet plenty of helpful, sharing people who will teach her to love the art of quilting.

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    Is she online? Can you send her in HERE? We will encourage her! I hate it when the quilt police think they can teach!
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    As a quilter as of January when I retired from teaching, I have been teaching myself with "ALL your help and ideas and support" plus a desperate phone call to my 83 year old mother in North Carolina every couple of days. You all have the answers that I need or can tell me where to go ;-) and my mom patiently tells me it is okay saying "Dear, surely, no one is going to notice a couple of crooked corners on a queen size quilt" (to which I go back and fix them because she raised a perfectionist). There are excellent teachers on this board and they have my highest praise for all their help!!!!
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    I'm very surprised to hear this. I was just in Albuquerque about a month ago and had the pleasure of visiting 7 - yes 7 - LQS's there. I must say I was very pleased with how friendly everyone is each of those shops were. Especially considering I wasn't really buying anything of significance. I picked up some stencils and some fat qtrs. and eighths but that's about it. Since there are so many shops in that area I would suggest maybe she travel an extra couple of minutes and find another shop.

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    Hopefully you can undo the bad advice she's getting and encourage her to keep quilting. Tell her there are a few "Quilt Police" out there and it was just her misfortune to run into one so soon.

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    When I started out I took a class at the LQS given by the manager. She was not a teacher, but she is a snob. She decided within about 10 minutes who she would cater to and who she would ignore. Fortunately, I found a group in my community that helped me. You could have knocked her over with a feather when I took my finished quilt in! That was almost three years ago and I am still muddling through, but having fun!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snow View Post
    IF YOU LOOK CLOSE ENOUGH YOU CAN ALWAYS FINE SOMETHING WRONG FOR WE ARE HUMAN AND NO HUMAN IS PERFECT SO OURS QUILTS IS NOT ALWAYS TO PERFECTION.qUILTING IS FOR FUN NOT STRESS!!! TELL HER TO GET ANOTHER TEACHER.
    A big amen to that!
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    I am still new to quilting but have been lucky in the teachers I have had and from this Board.
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    I am a new quilter and my first class was different than I expected and I just did what I knew was good for me to do. I didn't hand quilt like was expected. I did one small section and then made a practice sandwich and learned to FMQ, it is not perfect but it is my first and I love it that is what matters.
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    Ummm. I took my very first piecing class in Albuquerque 25 years ago. Sounds like the same place LOL! The instructor didn't like my choice of fabrics ("too traditional"), didn't help me understand the concept of light/medium/dark for fabric selection ("I don't know why you have so much trouble with this - it is so easy!"). She did think my stitching was ok, but it was a hand piecing class and I was an accomplished embroiderer and therefore used to good hand work. I think I did two blocks and put all other quilting away for 15 years!

    Hope your SIL doesn't get as discouraged as I did. Keep up your encouragement!

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    I am a believer in experience, the more you do the better you get. The first experience should be a happy thing. You should learn a lot. There are certain quilts that if you use the same seam allowance throughout, it comes out well. But I would explain how to get the perfect one and tell her to do it on the next one.

    My friend, Patty, is slightly handicapped, she couldn't hold the ruler as the teacher said and was told "if you can't do it right, don't bother". Can you imagine. I teach how to adapt. If you are getting good results, I don't care how you do it unless I think you will harm your body. There are many different ways to do everything. I think I should give you options if something doesn't work for you. I was asked to teach at the shop that had "the mean teachers" including the one who was so nasty to my friend and I refused. I didn't want to be lumped in with them.
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    I'm sorry for your SIL. Send her here! It takes more than skill and a desire to pass it on to make a teacher. Even more than technical ability, it takes empathy, a positive attitude and a love for providing encouragement.

    Students will eventually get the technical aspects of almost any skill - but beginners need encouragement even more than they need facts and technical details. Derision and tsk-tsk critiques may salve the ego of a teacher who needs that kind of reinforcement, but they do nothing for raising up students and giving them confidence.

    If you're going to be a teacher and you want to make a living at it, plan to put the catty remarks and critiques away. Cultivate a positive attitude.

    If a student comes away from your class with a less than perfect finished project but she likes it and she has lots of enthusiasm and courage to try it again, you have a convert.

    If you have snippy-sniped your superior attitude at them, they may finish a class with perfect 1/4" seams and a very nice quilt that they absolutely hate. They may have also developed an intense dislike of anything quilt-related.

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    My first class had an instructor that would shut us down early so she could get home and watch ER (remember that show) She didn't deter me, I just tried other classes and found out some instructors are great and some are not! Tell your SIL not to give up.

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    I had a great teacher for my first class, made me feel it was okay to make mistakes,

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    I took a techniques class a couple of years ago and the first thing the instructor asked was if anyone was left handed.
    All her instruction were for right handers and when I did something with my left hand she tried to change it to right handed. Needless to say I stopped going to class and and have learned more from this QB. I still quilt left handed and still enjoy it.

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