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    Old 08-13-2010, 10:52 PM
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    Originally Posted by pam1966
    You actually don't need permission to sell things made from any pattern. No matter what the designers think or try to tell you.
    What about when it says on the pattern itself that you can't? I'm really curious about this.[/quote]

    The manufacturer will tell you whatever they want you to believe.
    The product made from a design is not copyrighted, only the design itself.
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    Old 08-13-2010, 11:02 PM
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    Originally Posted by katmom54
    but if I go to the quilt show, take a picture of a quilt and then make one to show myself - that is an infringement...
    Is it getting more complicated than that?
    If the "design" of the quilt is an original design, and if the design is understandable from your picture, then your picture is an infringement.
    If you remember the quilt in your head and make one of your own, your quilt is not an infringement.
    But don't ever write it down!
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    Old 08-13-2010, 11:03 PM
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    [quote=AbbyQuiltsAlso if a pattern maker does not want to make the pattern but wants to restrict who sells it then they need to licence the pattern instead of sell it (think of it like mc D's franchising)[/quote]

    Right.
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    Old 08-13-2010, 11:08 PM
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    Originally Posted by ghostrider
    The artist/designer/writer of the pattern has every right to limit the commercial production of her work if she chooses to do so. She is not acting the least bit dishonestly, as you put it. I would like to see your source of information.
    Not so.
    The designer has no rights to the item produced from the pattern.
    However, I would not say she was dishonest, she might be thinking that she is correct even though she is not.
    Actually, I can't think why someone would even try to restrict what people do with finished products. Maybe they think that by restricitng the sale of products from their designs, that the persons who buy those products might then turn around and make their own products from newly purchased patterns if they can't buy the item already made.
    Not so.
    People who buy finished quilts are not likely to be people who would make their own quilts! At least not to a large enough number for the designer to bother worrying about.
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    Old 08-13-2010, 11:10 PM
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    [quote=ctack2]
    Originally Posted by ghostrider
    Originally Posted by dunster
    \The artist/designer/writer of the pattern has every right to limit the commercial production of her work if she chooses to do so.
    But what is the designers work? The production of the pattern. You aren't copying and selling her pattern.
    You have bought the pattern and paid her price. Why should she get credit for YOUR work?Carol B
    Right.
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    Originally Posted by Gee Hope
    Is it legal to sell a quilt made with copyrighted material, such as Disney princess material or a Disney embroidered designs?
    Sttrictly speaking, yes it is legal.
    But the Big Guys have so much clout people are often afraid to even appear to cross them.
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    Old 08-13-2010, 11:13 PM
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    Originally Posted by applique
    There ARE quilt police in the form of Copyright lawyers!!! I make quilts to sell in a museum and I HAVE to show permission from the designer before they can be sold. Only originals or public domain are excluded. There are books that deal with this issue.
    The museum will definitely try to cross all the Ts and dot all the Is to avoid any kind of conflict before it comes up.
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    Old 08-13-2010, 11:15 PM
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    Originally Posted by applique
    Read the copyright law. It's posted on the web!
    It is not a clearcut subject, and is open to all kinds of misunderstandings, such that copyright lawyers get rich off this stuff.
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    Old 08-13-2010, 11:17 PM
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    Originally Posted by quiltlin
    Everything everybody says is correct. It is a very "sticky" issue. The one for me that comes to mind is the "Norwegian Chicken Pattern" that Doreen Speckman "copyrighted" or so it says on the pattern that I have.
    I'm in my 6th decade and we had little tri-cornered pincushions when I was a babe.
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    Old 08-13-2010, 11:21 PM
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    Originally Posted by Jacqué
    one of the stores wrote me about seeing a lady......copying one of my patterns and teaching it....when asked she said the designer wasn't selling anymore.........
    This teacher was, in this case, being dishonest. And infringeing on the designer's copyright.
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