Basting Guns ... what do you think?
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Basting Guns ... what do you think?
After quilting my first quilt I had a lot of problems with tucks in the back, which I learned was due to me not taping down the backing when making the quilt sandwich. So this time I taped it down pretty tightly to my dining room table and basted it with safety pins, and I'm still getting tucks in the back. Dang.
I think maybe I'm just not using enough safety pins, which is because I haaaate basting. So I thought maybe I'd look into basting guns but the one they have on JoAnn has really mixed reviews; most of the poor reviews have to do with its quality. At 50 bucks it's kind of a lot of money to spend on something that will break before the end of one quilt.
So has anyone out there used a basting gun and had good results, and if so what brand do you use?
OR maybe someone has a better idea ... I've never tried spray basting, maybe that would solve my problem? Do you need to combine spray basting with pinning?
Thanks!!
I think maybe I'm just not using enough safety pins, which is because I haaaate basting. So I thought maybe I'd look into basting guns but the one they have on JoAnn has really mixed reviews; most of the poor reviews have to do with its quality. At 50 bucks it's kind of a lot of money to spend on something that will break before the end of one quilt.
So has anyone out there used a basting gun and had good results, and if so what brand do you use?
OR maybe someone has a better idea ... I've never tried spray basting, maybe that would solve my problem? Do you need to combine spray basting with pinning?
Thanks!!
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I used to use a basting gun. There are different qualities. If you go this route, be sure to get one with a fine needle and small plastic thingies. I can check mine and post the brand if you need it (I think it's Avery fine needle).
It is much easier to spray baste than to use a basting gun, though, plus I get better results with spray basting. I would encourage you to focus on spray basting. If you don't have access to a large table, it's pretty easy and inexpensive to purchase a couple of plastic sawhorses and a piece of plywood at a big box hardware store. This can be set up in the driveway and easily taken down and stored in a garage when not in use. I would also recommend buying 4 of the largest, best clamps at the hardware store (I paid about $5 each for 3-inch plastic clamps with an easy on-off trigger) to use with this setup. I also recommend paying a few bucks so you can use 505 instead of other brands of spray basters. 505 has never let me down. On a very large quilt I may place safety pins around the border to ensure the layers don't separate there; otherwise I don't bother.
Another thing you can do to prevent tucks, no matter what basting method you use, is to heavily starch the backing fabric before layering. I use a 1:1 solution of Sta-Flo liquid laundry starch and water, "paint" this onto the yardage using a large wall painting brush until fabric is saturated, toss in dryer, then iron with steam. I also spray starch the top before layering. Starch stabilizes the fabrics so they are much less likely to stretch and distort while machine quilting.
It is much easier to spray baste than to use a basting gun, though, plus I get better results with spray basting. I would encourage you to focus on spray basting. If you don't have access to a large table, it's pretty easy and inexpensive to purchase a couple of plastic sawhorses and a piece of plywood at a big box hardware store. This can be set up in the driveway and easily taken down and stored in a garage when not in use. I would also recommend buying 4 of the largest, best clamps at the hardware store (I paid about $5 each for 3-inch plastic clamps with an easy on-off trigger) to use with this setup. I also recommend paying a few bucks so you can use 505 instead of other brands of spray basters. 505 has never let me down. On a very large quilt I may place safety pins around the border to ensure the layers don't separate there; otherwise I don't bother.
Another thing you can do to prevent tucks, no matter what basting method you use, is to heavily starch the backing fabric before layering. I use a 1:1 solution of Sta-Flo liquid laundry starch and water, "paint" this onto the yardage using a large wall painting brush until fabric is saturated, toss in dryer, then iron with steam. I also spray starch the top before layering. Starch stabilizes the fabrics so they are much less likely to stretch and distort while machine quilting.
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That's where mine ended up but because it fell apart. I found it difficult to use and didn't replace it. This was before I discovered spray basting. Boy has that simplified my life as far as quilting goes. Quicker and easier than safety pins and I don't get any tucks in the backing. Just finished quilting three tops and it went so smoothly with the spary basting. Nice and smooth, no tucks. Can't say that about the one that I used the basting gun.
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The first one I bought fell apart. The second one, an Avery brand with a fine needle and tags is a GEM! I've used it for many quilts and haven't even had to change the needle yet.
I don't punch straight down and fire, though. I go into the top at an almost-level oblique angle, pick up the backing fabric and come back up and then fire, so that both ends of the tag are on the top of the quilt. I use a Kwik Klip tool to brace the needle tip and push the fabric as far onto the needle as it will go.
It's my favorite method of basting. I will never use spray basting again. If there is any poly in your batting or fabric, the propellants can react with the poly and will remain sticky enough to gum up your needle. Gummed needles = skipped stitches. I had one vintage scrappy that I ended up throwing away because I could NOT stitch more than an inch before I needed to clean the needle. I have used 505, June Tailor, Sullivans and EmbTech sprays and since I didn't keep track of which ones have caused trouble, but ALL of them say not to use them on polyester, so they have probably all got the same problem. Lots of people use them and love them, but they've been frustrating enough for me that I'm willing to use ANY other method to baste than sprays.
When I run low on the fine tags for the Avery gun, I will buy the MicroStitch brand - people who have tried both apparently find the MicroStitch even nicer to work with.
I don't punch straight down and fire, though. I go into the top at an almost-level oblique angle, pick up the backing fabric and come back up and then fire, so that both ends of the tag are on the top of the quilt. I use a Kwik Klip tool to brace the needle tip and push the fabric as far onto the needle as it will go.
It's my favorite method of basting. I will never use spray basting again. If there is any poly in your batting or fabric, the propellants can react with the poly and will remain sticky enough to gum up your needle. Gummed needles = skipped stitches. I had one vintage scrappy that I ended up throwing away because I could NOT stitch more than an inch before I needed to clean the needle. I have used 505, June Tailor, Sullivans and EmbTech sprays and since I didn't keep track of which ones have caused trouble, but ALL of them say not to use them on polyester, so they have probably all got the same problem. Lots of people use them and love them, but they've been frustrating enough for me that I'm willing to use ANY other method to baste than sprays.
When I run low on the fine tags for the Avery gun, I will buy the MicroStitch brand - people who have tried both apparently find the MicroStitch even nicer to work with.
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Yes, if you starch backing, iron wrinkles out, tape it down & LIGHTLY spray baste each layer with 505, and press each layer gently with your hands to be sure it lays flat, I think you'll be happy with the result. I too, have the gun & it makes holes in the fabric, so I don't use it for quilting. Good luck.
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