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    Elmers glue with Sharon Schamber's method ...

    I like the results I get using Sharon Schamber's method of basting with the boards. I get a nice, tight, straight quilt. But I hate hand basting. I also hate when the basting threads catch on my FMQ foot.

    So ....

    I'm trying the Elmers school glue basting method combined with Sharon Schamber's boards. It's going to be tricky because with the top and bottom on the boards - I'll have to work "backwards" (at least after the first area).

    I've just glued the backing/batting/top in the first area. Waiting for it to dry/set.

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    Someone on here does spray basting with the boards, haven't tried it yet though
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    I used Elmer's school glue, the liquid kind, and it smeared a bit (will wash out, and I always wash my quilts when done). Then I tried Elmer's school glue, stick version and like it soooo much better. Easier to control, no smears, nothing on my hands. Either beat pinning!

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    I used the Sharon Schamber board method and spray basted instead of thread basted the last 4 quilts I basted. It works really well. But I'm about to run out of spray baste and I don't have a LQS close to get 505 and I'm not very fond of the other brands of spray baste so I'm really thinking about trying Elmer's if it's a quilt I'm going to wash anyway.

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    I don't know the Sharon Schamber method, but I spray baste all the time. I've used Elmer's Spray and another one I bought from Jo Ann's but I don't remember the name. I think the Elmer's binds faster so doesn't allow as much adjustment. I wouldn't go back to the pinning and basting!

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    Think I missed something. There has been reference to using Elmers glue to basting the quilt sandwich together. I am aware of using the glue for binding, but is there a different use for the glue and how is it used to baste the quilt together.

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    Well ... finished. I will quilt it tomorrow but it looks good. Overall I think it took more time than it would to hand baste because I did sections and had to wait for each section to dry ... but it gave me the chance to do other things while waiting AND *I* wasn't basting!
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    I learned Sharon Schamber's method of rolling on boards and then basting... Did 2 quilts that way. Since then I've substituted 505 spray for the hand basting step in her process and I am MUCH happier! I've spray basted a couple of kingsize quilts this way and FMQ'd them without any puckering problems at all. They hold together very well with 505 spray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scissor Queen View Post
    I used the Sharon Schamber board method and spray basted instead of thread basted the last 4 quilts I basted. It works really well. But I'm about to run out of spray baste and I don't have a LQS close to get 505 and I'm not very fond of the other brands of spray baste so I'm really thinking about trying Elmer's if it's a quilt I'm going to wash anyway.
    I've gotten 505 online at Joanns with a coupon or when it's on sale. Comes right to my door!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ View Post
    I've gotten 505 online at Joanns with a coupon or when it's on sale. Comes right to my door!
    So have I. The last time I got it it was on sale for 50% off. But it's not even listed on their website anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogHouseMom View Post
    Well ... finished. I will quilt it tomorrow but it looks good. Overall I think it took more time than it would to hand baste because I did sections and had to wait for each section to dry ... but it gave me the chance to do other things while waiting AND *I* wasn't basting!
    When I use Elmer's on bindings, I iron it dry. Would that be possible with the board method? I've never used boards, but I MUST come up with a better way than I'm doing it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa_wanna_b_quilter View Post
    When I use Elmer's on bindings, I iron it dry. Would that be possible with the board method? I've never used boards, but I MUST come up with a better way than I'm doing it now.
    Ironing it dry when you're basting would really depend on the tables you're using. I use plastic folding tables from Wal-Mart so I suspect ironing on one would probably not be a good thing.

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    I keep reading these post about Elmer's glue and am "this" close to giving it a whirl. But, a couple of questions:
    When using the stick, does one completely cover the surface with it?
    Or with the liquid?
    Is it just a light swipe?
    Does it feel stiff when it dries before quilting?

    Does the basting spray wash out when the finished quilt is washed? Which one is preferred and why?

    Any other tips or pointers for a wary gluer-to-be?

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    I'll be waiting for answers to Jan's questions. I have spray basted, but would like to try the glue method.
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    Jan - this was my first time using Elmers. I've also used 505 once.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan in VA View Post
    I keep reading these post about Elmer's glue and am "this" close to giving it a whirl. But, a couple of questions:
    When using the stick, does one completely cover the surface with it?

    Haven't tried the stick - only the liquid.


    Or with the liquid?
    Is it just a light swipe?

    I just drizzle it on. As light as possible. I had a few blobs ... will let you know how those areas quilt. When I drizzled it I did a kind of meandering motion - about 3-5" apart. I actually 'dragged' the glue tip across the quilt to get it as thin as possible, in a fairly fast motion. If I missed a spot, I returned - better than getting too many gobs on it. Because I also used the boards (Sharon Schamber method) I first put my backing down and unrolled it making sure it was straight, then I glued the backing and laid the batting on it, then I drizzled glue on the batting. Yes, the glue tip gummed up a little when against the batting but the way I had the backing/top laid out on boards it was still easier than putting the glue on the reverse side of the quilt top and then flipping it over. I just cleaned the glue tip a little more often.

    Overall it was a piece of cake ... the worst part was waiting for the glue to dry so I could do another section - but I got some house work done I couldn't use the iron to dry it because A) I didn't want to gum up the bottom of my good iron (as I said - there were a few blobs and they did bleed through the fabric - but it's no big deal), and I was gluing it on my cutting board table. I did take a hair dryer to it for a little bit because I was getting impatient


    Does it feel stiff when it dries before quilting?

    It doesn't feel any different than when I basted with 505, which is to say just a tad stiffer than when I baste by hand. I will be quilting this tomorrow, but the one I quilted with 505 was a dream to quilt - very easy to handle.

    Does the basting spray wash out when the finished quilt is washed? Which one is preferred and why?

    They both wash out (liquid glue and 505). So far I like the glue better ... a LOT less mess. My problem with the 505 was the mess. You simply cannot avoid overspray when working with aerosol. If it was a pump - I would love it. But with the aerosol the spray literally flies and "drifts" everywhere in the room, and I mean everywhere! Everything I touched was tacky. My quilt was on the floor (concrete) on a plastic sheet, I held the can about 8-10" from the quilt, and I had an industrial exhaust (intake) fan about 4' in front of the direction I was spraying. Despite this ... everything within a 10' radius of the spray area was tacky from the spray. I loved the results of how the quilt felt and held together but I will never again deal with that mess. I used my husbands shop and he was NOT happy about the mess it left.

    Any other tips or pointers for a wary gluer-to-be?

    Try it first on a small project that is relatively un-important (ie ... not a gift or an item intended for show). I was also wary of both products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scissor Queen View Post
    Ironing it dry when you're basting would really depend on the tables you're using. I use plastic folding tables from Wal-Mart so I suspect ironing on one would probably not be a good thing.
    If you are talking about the white ones that fold in the middle ( 3 x 6 ft I think), I iron on them all the time as long as there is batting on the bottom. That's where I do my final iron of tops or backing. No problems so far but my iron is not one of the fancy super hot irons. It, too, is a Walmart cheapie but I use it on the highest setting.

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    spray basting works great....you should definitely try it....
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    I have used Elmer's glue on all my quilts, twin size and smaller. Works great!!!
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    Could someone please post the link to the Sharon Shamber method? The first time I heard about it, it took quite a while before I was able to find the tute on that.

    I basted a quilt a few weeks ago with Roxanne's GLUE-BASTE-IT. It's the same as Elmer's School Glue, but the $9 bottle comes with a metal spout to get the glue in a nice thin line. When that bottle is empty, it will be filled with Elmer's.
    The thing missing here is to lay out the batt and the backing on top of it, right side up, smooth and flat. Some put a few pins across the middle to hold it in place. Then fold back the top layer about half way and drip, drizzle, or whatever, the glue unto the backing layer. I used a small spot about every 6 inches. Fold the backing down, smooth very well and let it dry. I did this on my bed and used the iron to just press on each glue spot. Then work on the other half the same way.
    When that is dry, flip it over, smooth the top onto the batt, pin a few places in the middle and put glue spots, lines, drizzles, etc. unto the back side of the top. Fold back onto the batt, and smooth very well. Use the iron on each spot if you wish. Now fold the other side back and do the same with that side.
    I hope this helps.
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    Maviskw: I just "google" "Basting With Boards" and it will come right up.

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    Mavita,
    Thank you for the tip about pinning to the batting in the middle then laying back the layers. One would assume this would be obvious. For me, not so much!! Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by maviskw View Post
    Could someone please post the link to the Sharon Shamber method? The first time I heard about it, it took quite a while before I was able to find the tute on that.

    I basted a quilt a few weeks ago with Roxanne's GLUE-BASTE-IT. It's the same as Elmer's School Glue, but the $9 bottle comes with a metal spout to get the glue in a nice thin line. When that bottle is empty, it will be filled with Elmer's.
    The thing missing here is to lay out the batt and the backing on top of it, right side up, smooth and flat. Some put a few pins across the middle to hold it in place. Then fold back the top layer about half way and drip, drizzle, or whatever, the glue unto the backing layer. I used a small spot about every 6 inches. Fold the backing down, smooth very well and let it dry. I did this on my bed and used the iron to just press on each glue spot. Then work on the other half the same way.
    When that is dry, flip it over, smooth the top onto the batt, pin a few places in the middle and put glue spots, lines, drizzles, etc. unto the back side of the top. Fold back onto the batt, and smooth very well. Use the iron on each spot if you wish. Now fold the other side back and do the same with that side.
    I hope this helps.
    If you're using the boards you have all three layers together at the same time. You don't have to pin anything or flip anything over. Plus you get to work at a table and not on the floor or a bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra View Post
    I used Elmer's school glue, the liquid kind, and it smeared a bit (will wash out, and I always wash my quilts when done). Then I tried Elmer's school glue, stick version and like it soooo much better. Easier to control, no smears, nothing on my hands. Either beat pinning!
    I also did my first quilt using Elmer's school glue. My husband helped me lay the layers out on a table ,and then we dotted each layer with glue and then smoothed it down. The next day, I rolled it up, carried it to the sewing machine and did free motion quilting. It worked beautifully. I will have to try the glue stick next. Will never pin another quilt.Yea!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra View Post
    I used Elmer's school glue, the liquid kind, and it smeared a bit (will wash out, and I always wash my quilts when done). Then I tried Elmer's school glue, stick version and like it soooo much better. Easier to control, no smears, nothing on my hands. Either beat pinning!
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    Does the "stick" wash out like the liquid?


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    The Elmer's glue and glues tick seems tedious. With spray basting all you ha ve to do is spray and flatten the fabric.

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