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    Four point pattern - HELP!

    I'm in a mathematical dilemma!

    I'm trying to make this quilt: http://www.quilterscache.com/F/FourPointBlock.html

    But I need to make finished 9" blocks and not 8" ones - any suggestions on how to resize all the measurements? Or better still, any place I can find the measurements for this please please? My brain is about to explode trying to work it out!!!

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    Merin: This is almost a non-answer but I would start with graph paper. Draw a nine inch square then draw your shapes within that square. For instance the larger square points are at the halfway mark on the sides and top of the square (4.5 inches). Hopefully someone else will come up with a better answer, but the gaph paper is the way I would do it.

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    it looks like the pattern has templates. Print them off making sure they print the correct size by measuring the 1 inch square. I find that a lot of their templates and paper piecing patterns don't print at 100% so I have to adjust the sizes. Then when you get them done go to the copier and increase the size by 112@ and that should give you templates for a 9 inch block. I would get some scrap fabric and make by block before starting on the whole quilt.

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    I'm willing to try anything at this point! Thanks for the suggestion, Emma S!

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    Phew, I'm glad I'm not the only one having printing problems!

    Thank you, all great suggestions! Will give the copier a shot and try out on scrap fabric first

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    OMG I did that block early in my quilting life and about half of them came out wonky. I was not up to speed on templates and how to cut around them and my templates were too thick and made by a carpenter.
    However the ones that came out good look great - I now love that block.

    I suggest get that excellent 1/16" graph paper and plot it out. That way each template piece will come out to the correct size and you won't be measuring angles and worrying about 8/9 of anything.

    Also I found the little triangles kept getting out of shape every time I looked at them.

    Good luck and have fun with it - a super block. I sashed mine and made placemats.

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    I would be willing to draft it in EQ and e-mail it to you...as a fellow quilter (free!)

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    Starch will help tame the triangle bias.

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    Here you go - one of my favorite blocks! I had this in EQ with a totally different name, so the measurements may be slightly different but it sure looks close.
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    And here's a second version that was in Blockbase (an add on to EQ) that is called Four Points. It's just slightly different.
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    Starch will help tame the triangle bias.

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    What a great group quilters are. So many helpful suggestions. Even though I might not be making a particular pattern I always learn something from all of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emma S View Post
    Merin: This is almost a non-answer but I would start with graph paper. Draw a nine inch square then draw your shapes within that square. For instance the larger square points are at the halfway mark on the sides and top of the square (4.5 inches). Hopefully someone else will come up with a better answer, but the gaph paper is the way I would do it.
    Actually, this is almost always my solution. I love drafting mine to size!!!

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    Hey Dianne! Would appreciate that I'm trying everything that everyone here has suggested - I figure that I'll get it right from at least one!

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    This is my first time at this forum and I am blown away by the support I've received! Thank you so much!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyndaOH View Post
    And here's a second version that was in Blockbase (an add on to EQ) that is called Four Points. It's just slightly different.
    Those are such good helps. Lyndy H when I open your EQs the A section does not appear. Do you know if I'm doing something wrong? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merin View Post
    I'm in a mathematical dilemma!

    I'm trying to make this quilt: http://www.quilterscache.com/F/FourPointBlock.html

    But I need to make finished 9" blocks and not 8" ones - any suggestions on how to resize all the measurements? Or better still, any place I can find the measurements for this please please? My brain is about to explode trying to work it out!!!

    Print out the templates at 112%. Make a practice block. Should give you a 9" finished block.

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    I really dislike working with 1/16 measurement. I would just make the 8" blocks and add an extra border to get the finished size that I want.
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    I would cut the a and b blocks for the pattern the outside blocks a 1/4" bigger and trim the blocks to the exact size which is 9-1/2" unfinished. Great blocks. Luann
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    I know you can do it with all the great gals here on the board, just remember your seam allowances

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy Dew View Post
    Those are such good helps. Lyndy H when I open your EQs the A section does not appear. Do you know if I'm doing something wrong? Thanks.
    Whoops - I didn't notice that. EQ won't include a piece it doesn't think is rotary cutable. I'm attaching the templates for the block (the second one I posted) so you can have that A piece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandamommy View Post
    it looks like the pattern has templates. Print them off making sure they print the correct size by measuring the 1 inch square. I find that a lot of their templates and paper piecing patterns don't print at 100% so I have to adjust the sizes. Then when you get them done go to the copier and increase the size by 112@ and that should give you templates for a 9 inch block. I would get some scrap fabric and make by block before starting on the whole quilt.
    Why 112?? Where does that number come from? Is it so much per inch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merin View Post
    I'm in a mathematical dilemma!

    I'm trying to make this quilt: http://www.quilterscache.com/F/FourPointBlock.html

    But I need to make finished 9" blocks and not 8" ones - any suggestions on how to resize all the measurements? Or better still, any place I can find the measurements for this please please? My brain is about to explode trying to work it out!!!
    Hi! Several months ago I purchased a "Quilter's Scale - Easy Guide to Resizing" by Dritz, and it really helps.

    If you have a printer and you can "increase/decrease" size on it, I think this would work.

    It says if you have an 8" block and want to increase it to 9", enlarge it 113%.

    No, I am not paid by Dritz to endorse this product, but I really like it!

    This might be worth a try. Good luck!

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    I'm with Crafterrn1 if you did it this way you wouldn't have to deal with 11/16 inch and the inner block would look like it is floating. IMHO. Good Luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by be a quilter View Post
    Why 112?? Where does that number come from? Is it so much per inch?
    Division. Divide the size you want by the size you have.

    9 8 = 1.125, or 112. So you would push the enlarge button on the copier and set it to 112%.

    To reduce a block is the same. If you have an 8 inch block but wanted a 9 inch block:
    8 9 = .88, you would push the reduce button on the copier and set it to 88%.

    Or, you could use the cheat sheet found here (as long as your blocks are whole numbers):

    http://www.thequiltedsnail.com/scale.html
    Last edited by Peckish; 04-27-2013 at 02:15 PM.

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