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    Okay, I think I GOT it!! You won't believe the difference! From lumpy to nearly flat!! I'm happy with this second block, and here's what I did different.

    1. Used a finer thread for pieceing; a 2 ply, not a 3 ply (Aurifil).

    2. Pressed all seams open as I went (instead of to one side).

    3. Starched everything as I went.

    4. Used Pam Bono's "Angler 2" (no affiliation) - why didn't I use this prize before?! Gives me MUCH better control, both for stitching the diagonal line when doing the 'stitch and flip' method of making Flying Geese (no more drawing that line) and made making a 1/4" stitch MUCH easier to do/see on her ruler. YAY!!

    Thanks to ALL of you, your most helpful comments and heartfelt compliments! Hmm, maybe I was being a bit too critical... But, if you could only FEEL the difference in my blocks now. Here is the new and improved block.

    I'm doin' the Happy Dance now, Karla in CO

    What a huge difference ironing these seams open made!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunQuilter2
    In a class I took a few months ago the teacher had us just remove enough stitches at the meeting point to be able to open it up and iron it flat. Hope this makes sense.
    I've done that with pinwheels and most other blocks where 4 or more units met in the middle. It really does help. Thanks so much.

    Karla in CO

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    Jolly good show, old girl!
    old as in ESTABLISHED ... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadQuilter
    Granny, granny, granny - svelt geese and exposed back sides - lol
    I am already in stitches thanks to your post.

    As to the pressing, I'd try the open method. It seems to be getting a lot of attention lately. I was one to follow the "press to the dark side" (now that might explain my dark humor - :twisted: ) but ran into the same problem as you did. Now, my backside can be a bit inconsistent and unorthodox. I press the way the seam wants to go naturally. Next batch, I'll try to press open.

    Nice geese btw!
    Hi MadQuilter,

    I'm so sorry to hear that your backside is a bit inconsistent and unorthodox, tee hee. :lol: Mind if I use that term next time DH complains about mine?! :lol: :wink:

    Yep, seriously, open was the way to go on these geese, and probably will be on some other blocks, too. I'm definitely a convert, now. I'm guessing you might be just as jubilant as I am with my 2nd block - see new pic I just posted. Thanks too, for your compliment. :)

    Less Lumpy in CO - the block, that is... :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiltgranny
    Hi MadQuilter,

    I'm so sorry to hear that your backside is a bit inconsistent and unorthodox, tee hee. :lol: Mind if I use that term next time DH complains about mine?! :lol: :wink:

    Less Lumpy in CO - the block, that is... :lol:
    LOL .... reminds me of when we were establishing this place. Dad was busy selecting four heifers for me to start with. We lived across the state from each other, so we spent many hours talking via phone.
    About the 300 th time I heard him say, "OH, you have just got to see her rump! It is round and smooth, straight across the hips, wide ... she is just beautiful! She's going to do a good job for you."
    Finally, being the willful child I tend to be I said, "I have NEVER heard you wax poetic about the fine figure of a woman I am!"
    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by omak
    Jolly good show, old girl!
    old as in ESTABLISHED ... LOL
    Thanks, Omak!

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    Your second block really does look like it lays a lot more smoothly. I've learned something from your experiment. Thanks for posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omak
    Quote Originally Posted by Quiltgranny
    Hi MadQuilter,

    I'm so sorry to hear that your backside is a bit inconsistent and unorthodox, tee hee. :lol: Mind if I use that term next time DH complains about mine?! :lol: :wink:

    Less Lumpy in CO - the block, that is... :lol:
    LOL .... reminds me of when we were establishing this place. Dad was busy selecting four heifers for me to start with. We lived across the state from each other, so we spent many hours talking via phone.
    About the 300 th time I heard him say, "OH, you have just got to see her rump! It is round and smooth, straight across the hips, wide ... she is just beautiful! She's going to do a good job for you."
    Finally, being the willful child I tend to be I said, "I have NEVER heard you wax poetic about the fine figure of a woman I am!"
    LOL


    Maybe he had been taught it was impolite to talk about a woman's backside. After all, what woman would want to be described as "straight across the hips, WIDE ..."?

    Seriously, were these cows good breeding stock?

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    WOW, your points are just perfect. I'm impressed with how orderly the second batch of geese are flying.

    .....and yes - feel free to wax poetic about unorthodox backs any day. :wink:

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    Well, my point was: In a developing heifer ... round, wide, straight across the hips .... that is a good thing and Dad was really enjoying his fine success at breeding good Limousin stock.
    My point was .... I had all those same FINE qualities, and he never gushed about how good I looked! LOL
    (he and I both knew that the good qualities in a heifer are not necessarily the best qualities for a woman, but it was fun to see him laugh hilariously, and to be able to laugh about some very obviousl facts of life) LOL


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    Dear Carla:

    I think your problem is that your points do not match and it appears that your triangles are not the same size. In addition, your four squares aren't lined up as well. All points should be right at the edge of the next triangle so they appear to be flying in a circle.

    Keep trying, it will come. Nobody was born a quilter; we all have had and continue to have trial and error. GG

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    Karla...I have to disagree with GG...sorry there girl.

    I think your geese look just fine..in fact, I just love your second block you showed with the open seams...I'm doing the happy dance with you because next time I'll do my seams open too! I've never been shy about learning from someone else's lessons! :lol: :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearisgray
    Your second block really does look like it lays a lot more smoothly. I've learned something from your experiment. Thanks for posting.
    You're SO welcome! Hey, we're all here to share and learn, right? I wish you could feel the difference, it truly is amazing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandpat
    Karla...I have to disagree with GG...sorry there girl.

    I think your geese look just fine..in fact, I just love your second block you showed with the open seams...I'm doing the happy dance with you because next time I'll do my seams open too! I've never been shy about learning from someone else's lessons! :lol: :lol:
    Thanks so much for the vote of confidence, sandpat - much appreciated. :)

    I'm not the least bit shy learning from others, either! In fact, that's what I base much of my success upon - the knowledge of others who are willing to share with me, and vice versa.

    Karla in CO

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadQuilter
    WOW, your points are just perfect. I'm impressed with how orderly the second batch of geese are flying.

    .....and yes - feel free to wax poetic about unorthodox backs any day. :wink:
    Thanks on both 'points', lol. :lol: Hey, we gotta laugh at times, right?

    Karla in CO

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiGi
    Dear Carla:

    I think your problem is that your points do not match and it appears that your triangles are not the same size. In addition, your four squares aren't lined up as well. All points should be right at the edge of the next triangle so they appear to be flying in a circle.

    Keep trying, it will come. Nobody was born a quilter; we all have had and continue to have trial and error. GG
    Thank you for your assessment of my resulting block, it looks exactly like the pattern I was following.

    Karla in CO

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    Quote Originally Posted by omak
    Well, my point was: In a developing heifer ... round, wide, straight across the hips .... that is a good thing and Dad was really enjoying his fine success at breeding good Limousin stock.
    My point was .... I had all those same FINE qualities, and he never gushed about how good I looked! LOL
    (he and I both knew that the good qualities in a heifer are not necessarily the best qualities for a woman, but it was fun to see him laugh hilariously, and to be able to laugh about some very obviousl facts of life) LOL
    DH just loves the Limosin, and misses them so from the good ol days. And honestly, he loves me too, regardless of my lumps after all these years. :wink: I do so enjoy watching him laugh, much as you've described here. Ain't life grand?

    Karla in CO

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    I can't imagine a more wonderful life than to be able to be close to nature and try to figure out how to get along with it.
    Unfortunately, the only semen I can get is black limousin and I just do not want to go there - - and, I am not a good enough AI tech to be able to afford $125 + per straw for red limousin semen :(
    You will have to drop by omak's bunkhouse
    http://www.quiltingboard.com/posts/list/23518.page
    and we can chat about it more, since I too enjoy learning from others' expertise
    Your DH will probably want to know that we don't have many (14 head), and of those, only three are pure ... when I couldn't get any more red semen, I started cross breeding for hybrid vigor. Right now, I have a 1/2 Simmental/1/2 Limousin bull ... and Hereford semen for back up.

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    I'm working on the same pattern right now. Except my geese are flying the opposite direction. This means the only place where points meet up is at the center of the block. All other points meet at the bottom center of the next goose. I think my seams are pressed the same as yours. I was pressing toward the dark, but like you said, the seam at the bottom naturally wants to go toward the goose. With this layout it's been very smooth.

    Anyhooo, by pressing the seams open, it looks like you've found a great solution. :) Good luck with the rest of your blocks!

    Jen
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    THe other thing about pressing seams to one side ... that someone pointed out in some book I was reading
    That fold actually uses up threads on the fabric, so your block might be smaller pressing to one side than it would be by pressing to one side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sew cornie
    I'm working on the same pattern right now. Except my geese are flying the opposite direction. This means the only place where points meet up is at the center of the block. All other points meet at the bottom center of the next goose. I think my seams are pressed the same as yours. I was pressing toward the dark, but like you said, the seam at the bottom naturally wants to go toward the goose. With this layout it's been very smooth.

    Anyhooo, by pressing the seams open, it looks like you've found a great solution. :) Good luck with the rest of your blocks!

    Jen
    Great block! Glad to hear that you've had the same positive experience that I'm having. :) Sure makes a difference. Is your blocks called "Mosaic", too?
    Only difference I can see in your pressing, is maybe that you've left the center seams pressed to the side. Hard to see this early in the am, lol. Have fun with yours, too. Thanks so much for sharing your blocks, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omak
    THe other thing about pressing seams to one side ... that someone pointed out in some book I was reading
    That fold actually uses up threads on the fabric, so your block might be smaller pressing to one side than it would be by pressing to one side.
    Are ya tired, Omak? Did ya mean to say, "so your block might be smaller... than it would be pressing open?"[u] Or, am I losing it? :) I read the same thing too, recently. Great minds read alike, lol. :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiltgranny
    Quote Originally Posted by omak
    THe other thing about pressing seams to one side ... that someone pointed out in some book I was reading
    That fold actually uses up threads on the fabric, so your block might be smaller pressing to one side than it would be by pressing to one side.
    Are ya tired, Omak? Did ya mean to say, "so your block might be smaller... than it would be pressing open?"[u] Or, am I losing it? :) I read the same thing too, recently. Great minds read alike, lol. :lol:
    Don't think I was tired, probably trying to watch the news, flip through advertisements and type ... the correct way for it to read is:
    If you press to one side, it is possible that your block will be smaller than it would be if you pressed the seams open. (Something to be considered on any type of seam ...)
    THanks for catching that, Quiltgranny! You were definitely watching my back

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    I didn't read all of these but the other day on the Fons and Porter show they discussed this and what they did was fantastic.

    To make sure you don't loose your points they sewed 1/4 and when they got close to the point wandered just up past the point (I hope this makes sense) and then back into postion.

    Then to get bulky seams to lay flat they clipped the seam(not all the way) in the bulky areas and then pressed those opposite directions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiltgranny
    Quote Originally Posted by sew cornie
    I'm working on the same pattern right now. Except my geese are flying the opposite direction. This means the only place where points meet up is at the center of the block. All other points meet at the bottom center of the next goose. I think my seams are pressed the same as yours. I was pressing toward the dark, but like you said, the seam at the bottom naturally wants to go toward the goose. With this layout it's been very smooth.

    Anyhooo, by pressing the seams open, it looks like you've found a great solution. :) Good luck with the rest of your blocks!

    Jen
    Great block! Glad to hear that you've had the same positive experience that I'm having. :) Sure makes a difference. Is your blocks called "Mosaic", too?
    Only difference I can see in your pressing, is maybe that you've left the center seams pressed to the side. Hard to see this early in the am, lol. Have fun with yours, too. Thanks so much for sharing your blocks, too.
    I've seen it called Flying Dutchman or Dutchman's Puzzle. Haven't heard of Mosaic, but maybe that's the difference in the direction they're flying? I'll have to look it up. Now I'm curious .:wink:

    Would love to see your finished quilt when it's done! Happy flying!!

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