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Thread: Help with my Janome Please...I hope it's an easy question.+ a bit of a rant

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    Shank question, with a little background....

    We moved back up here from OK 2 years ago, and 2 1/2 years before that we moved from here down to OK and I can't remember if I had my machine a year or 2 before we moved...so I've had this machine approx. 5-6 years ago I graduated from an elementary Walmart machine to a Janome 415. It's a very basic machine, but it has and continues to meet all/most of my needs. The ONLY thing I would change is it doesn't have a blanket stitch....wow am I off topic...

    Anyway, I don't know what shank it is. Apparently there is a hi-lo shank? I am completely self-taught...few books, mostly trial and error. When I bought the machine I knew I wanted a walking foot and a quarter in foot. The dealer sold me a package of a darning foot (FMQ?), walking foot, quarter inch foot and some other thing I don't know what it is cause I've never used it.

    Anyway, over time I almost entirely use only my 1/4in foot. I have learned I don't like to lose my walking foot so it fits very nicely in the little cubby inside my machine.

    Somewhere, in the last 5 years, between 2 moves from NE to OK and back, I have lost a box of my sewing things. In it contained my late mother's button holer dohinky from Singer ages and ages ago that I'll never use, but it was my moms and I didn't want to part with it. When I packed that box, knowing I would get back to it someday, I packed my Janome owner's manual, the open toed foot, the attachments that came with the machine I've never used, like some button holer foot and gauges and stuff, and some other stuff I can't remember....probably mom's eyelet lace ribbon...there I go digressing again.

    So....after tearing apart 2 storage garages, my meager sewing closet and my apartment, I cannot find this box. I dare not think of what happened to it and I'm tired of waiting. I've been putting off practicing FMQ for months looking for this box. I put together some plain quilt squares with just muslin for top and back with batting in the center and I want to play around a little. Mostly because I saw these little potholders, placemats and table runner set pattern thing and I absolutely HAVE to make it. I've never before come across a pattern that talks to me like this one. I have several fabric lines all figured out and can't wait to start...knowing I NEVER start a project until I have everything ready to finish it, I am not a big fan of UFO's, I want to buy a darning foot.

    The 4 foot package that cost 75 dollars 5-6 years ago, now must go for cheaper. On EBAY with these "new in box" feet. I searched Janome and I do not have a memory craft machine, it's not electronic at all actually. I don't know what shank my machine is. I don't know which foot to buy.

    I tried to do the sensible thing first and go to my dealer....I had about 5 questions about my current machine. When it went down a few months ago they were more interested in selling me a new one cause I really need to "upgrade" than they were fixing my machine. then the estimate was over 150.00. Took it to a smaller machine/vacuum repair place that's THE place to go to if you belong to the guild around here....fixed it for 75. So I went to give my dealer another chance and inquire about purchasing this foot separately. Got a 30 minute one-sided conversation about this New Janome and all the bells, whistles, computerized crap it does. It can quilt, it can embroider...buy now only 999.99 are they insane? Am I not speaking English when I say i want to buy a foot? I went in there with cash money and was so flustered by them refusing to understand I was not interested in a machine, just a foot....I turned tail and left.

    Do you all want pictures of my machine? I put the feed dogs down by complete accident once, so I learned how to do that the right way a long time ago. I've studied here about stitching and regulating and what not...I'm ready to play and I don't have a foot.

    Can someone help?

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    Post a sideways picture of the foot you have, next to say, a coin, for size. Let's see what happens! I bet you get your answer!

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    Pictures would be a big help.
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    I found the manual on line and it doesn't say the shank but by the photos of the feet it looks like a low shank machine. I think with Janome the only high shank machines are the embroidery machines. I have a .pdf of the owners manual if you would like it just PM me. Another way to know is if only one finger fits under the screw to the face plate it is a low shank.

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    Kathy, I did not know that about using the finger for measuing. Thanks!

    I Have a Bernina with an adaptor that lets me use the low shank attachments, bet Bernina hates that. :twisted:

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    This might help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathy N
    I found the manual on line and it doesn't say the shank but by the photos of the feet it looks like a low shank machine. I think with Janome the only high shank machines are the embroidery machines. I have a .pdf of the owners manual if you would like it just PM me. Another way to know is if only one finger fits under the screw to the face plate it is a low shank.
    What is a face plate?

    Also, will try to take pictures of it tomorrow. By the descriptions, I bet it's a low shank. I can only fit barely a finger in the method you described. It's not a computerized machine in any way nor does it have embroidery features. It may have been a basic model? It has a few stitching options and some decorative stitching...not really a whole heck of a lot, but it's not a computerized machine. .

    I just wanted something better than the basic brother I got for 80.00 at walmart. Sewed like a dream, still does apparently because I gave it to my SIL when I got this machine and she just started her quilting journey 2 years ago. She's going to run into the same problem I did though....brother makes very specific shanks for their walmart models...it's like a learner machine. The minute you want to do anything fancy that involved attachments that didn't come with the machine, you will find out real quick from brother that they don't make quilting feet or any really nice accessories for those models...but they are more than happy to help you order a machine that better suits your needs!!

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    I found this on the Janome website. You can find the part numbers and descriptions of the feet that go with your machine. http://janome.com/index.cfm/Machines/Retired/415

    If you do some searching, I'm sure there are online sites where you could order feet. Good luck!

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    Here's another website that describes shank sizes:
    http://www.clotilde.com/pages/which_foot.html

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    I have a Brother machine and I went to their website and found out my machine is a low shank. It was very easy to find also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpeters1200
    Quote Originally Posted by Kathy N
    I found the manual on line and it doesn't say the shank but by the photos of the feet it looks like a low shank machine. I think with Janome the only high shank machines are the embroidery machines. I have a .pdf of the owners manual if you would like it just PM me. Another way to know is if only one finger fits under the screw to the face plate it is a low shank.
    What is a face plate?

    Also, will try to take pictures of it tomorrow. By the descriptions, I bet it's a low shank. I can only fit barely a finger in the method you described. It's not a computerized machine in any way nor does it have embroidery features. It may have been a basic model? It has a few stitching options and some decorative stitching...not really a whole heck of a lot, but it's not a computerized machine. .

    I just wanted something better than the basic brother I got for 80.00 at walmart. Sewed like a dream, still does apparently because I gave it to my SIL when I got this machine and she just started her quilting journey 2 years ago. She's going to run into the same problem I did though....brother makes very specific shanks for their walmart models...it's like a learner machine. The minute you want to do anything fancy that involved attachments that didn't come with the machine, you will find out real quick from brother that they don't make quilting feet or any really nice accessories for those models...but they are more than happy to help you order a machine that better suits your needs!!
    A "Face plate" is the plate you unscrew, usually it is metal. you clean that area out..alot of fuz builds up under the face plate from thread. it is apart of the "arm".

    i have always thought of the faceplate as being on the bed of the machine,under the needle,shank! until now!on top load bobbin models,like mine, i remove the plate to get to the bobbin area, to clean and oil my machine

    it is also a "throat plate, needle plate...

    hope this helps, and doesn't confuse you..like it did me,just now, while i was searching for pictures for you!

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    I have the 6600 and its got a high shank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sewcrafty
    I have the 6600 and its got a high shank.
    the 6600 is the except to the rule with the janomes..i have one also.
    and i had a quiltshop order me a "bigfoot",and it was a low shank..and it was wrong! most are low shank..except ours!

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    which Janome do you have? mine is low shank and most of the feet snap onto the little bar on the back of the shank piece.

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    When am I going to 'need to know' what 'shank' my machine is?
    Sounds like I will need to know if I want to purchase additional feet that didn't come with the machine.
    Don't know.
    There is a lot of excellent information in this post. I hope my brain can remember everything I learn on the quiltingboard. So much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsb38327
    When am I going to 'need to know' what 'shank' my machine is?
    Sounds like I will need to know if I want to purchase additional feet that didn't come with the machine.
    Don't know.
    There is a lot of excellent information in this post. I hope my brain can remember everything I learn on the quiltingboard. So much!
    Yes, you do need to know what type shank your machine receives! I have a Bernina, so I had to buy a special adaptor so that I could use other manufacturers feet. With the adaptor, I have a low shank, and can and do use vintage feet on my machine that were intended for old Singers!

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    I need to get out my ruler and put my presser foot down and get to measuring. I would just about bet that it's a low shank.

    I found a ton of darning feet on Ebay all stating they are NIB from 15.00 to 50.00. I think that big 50.00 one is for the 6000 or 6600, whichever ones you were talking about earlier.

    This is great. Lots of links to look at.

    That is why I love this board. I can post a question and be honest that I know NOTHING and look at all this information!!

    I bookmarked this thread so I can keep track of that diagram...it's a bit confusing, but I get it enough not to be afraid of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watterstide
    Quote Originally Posted by sewcrafty
    I have the 6600 and its got a high shank.
    the 6600 is the except to the rule with the janomes..i have one also.
    and i had a quiltshop order me a "bigfoot",and it was a low shank..and it was wrong! most are low shank..except ours!
    Didn't realize that!!! Thanks.

    You do realize that except for the darning and walking foot, if your machine has it, you can use the generic snap on feet. Works for me. :-D

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    i got a whole set of feet with my 6600..and one accufeed foot..i bought 2 more for her.
    then when i went back to the dealer and bought the janome jem platinum for traveling..all the regular feet were interchangable! Bonus! all i had to buy,was a second 1/4", to keep and have with both machines.

    make sure when you buy a 1/4" foot off the rack or on line..that you have the right one! Janome carries two different one, meaning the hole is different..one is just a hole, and one is a hole and a little more cut out to the right of the original hole.
    my girlfriend went and bought the wrong 1/4" for her jem, and bent the shaft,she had the wrong one.
    be sure to ask your dealer, tell them what you have and they will get you the right one. i can take a picute of the foot with the correct hole if anyone wants me to.

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    Janome is a low shank machine. However, a note of caution here before you buy a foot other than at your dealer. There are two different quarter inch feet. They are for different types of machines. I have a Memory Craft 4000. When I took it in for servicing (such a great machine, I've had it 17 years and only had it in twice!) I got a really low end Janome loaner. I think it was a Gem, a discontinued model. I told them I had a quarter inch foot, but was told that mine would not work on it. One is for an "oscillating" machine, and the other for a ? machine. Anyhow, my foot DID fit on that machine, but they showed me how it could damage the needle and the timing if it were used on the wrong machine.

    I would go to the dealer, tell him "I want a quarter inch foot for a XYZ machine." And if he tries to sell you something, be RUDE and interrupt and say, "I am not interested in ANYTHING but this foot. Do you want to sell it to me or should I go elsewhere?".

    You can also go directly to the Janome webside and dowload a manual for your particular machine. That should tell you the foot type you need too. Good luck.

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    I will check at the Quilt Store that I buy my Janome machine from and see what kind of walking foot you need they
    are real good at helping you find parts for older machines.
    If they have one I will let you know.
    Carol in Delaware

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    I love my quarter inch foot. It's the darning foot I'm in need of. I hope there is only one.

    The guy I saw on ebay welcomes questions...so I might send him a message or two. 15.00 seems to good to be true. I love all my snap on feet.

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    My Janome Harmony is a low shank type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpeters1200
    I love my quarter inch foot. It's the darning foot I'm in need of. I hope there is only one.

    The guy I saw on ebay welcomes questions...so I might send him a message or two. 15.00 seems to good to be true. I love all my snap on feet.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=263602_263622

    that is the one, you can aslo chen with brubakers sewing center on line..but $15 is the right price..Have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norene B
    My Janome Harmony is a low shank type.
    I have no idea about Janome Emb machines, but all thier sewing machines are low shank, including the 6500.

    The 6600 is the only machine to my knowledge,that is a high shank machine.
    i have not read any info on the newest janome out..i think it is a 7700? or goes by another name.

    that is why i was sold the wrong foot..the store owner thought it was a short shank. she was surprised when i returned it because it didn't fit.

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