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    Unhappy Help Tin Lizzie owners------

    I'm so frustrated I'm quilting a quilt and for the first half of the quilt everything went fine. Put a new spool of thread on for the top and now the thread breaks after one or two stitches. I have tried everything I can think of. I have loosened the tension, checked the bobbin, cleaned lint. The thread comes off the tension knob really tight even when I loosen it.
    Any ideas? It is interesting that nearly all of the problems with long arm machines are Tin Lizzie. I hope to finish this quilt and them will probably sell.

    Maybe Tin Lizzie needs a tech to stay on this forum to help the owners of the Tin Lizzie. When it works it great but it doesn't work very often. Fro the cost it should work all the time!
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    Sorry you are so frustrated. What kind of thread are you using? I have the queen quilter which is the tin lizzie before they had the lizzie stitch. I have never had any problems with my machine. I have had it for 3 years and it has always
    worked great. I think more people have had problems with the machines with the lizzie stitch. I use metro embroderiy
    thread and never have to adjust tension. It is also reasonably priced. Hope you can fix your problem soon.

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    I just thought of something. Have you oiled your machine lately? It seems like you have to oil it alot.

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    If the thread is coming off the tension knob really tight, there must be something wrong with the thread path up to that point. Is it plenty loose before it goes into the tension disk? Is it actually caught in the tension disk? I don't have a TL, so can't give specific help. Usually if something is wrong right after I change the thread it's because there's something wrong with the thread path.

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    Bumping my nose in here even though I don't have a TL........

    On the Singer's I have, threading MUST be done with the presser foot in the UP position.

    Shari

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    i read a tip once... sometimes the thread can catch on a foot that is not smooth. do you have another you can try?
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    Make sure the presser foot is up, then try pulling the thread thru. If it still is really tight, make sure that the thread is going between the tension disks, not in back (next to the machine) or in front (next to the tension knob) of them. Although it's hard to do, I once threaded mine with the thread going in back of the disks. If it's threaded correctly thru the disks, then tug on the thread just before going thru the tension disks. Sometimes it's caught up somewhere closer to the spool.
    I rarely thread the machine any more. I cut the thread at the spool, tie the new thread on and then slowly pull it thru to the needle.
    Knock on wood, I've had great success with my TL. It will sew with any thread and the tension is easy to adjust.
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    I threaded my long arm three times one time because i didnt have it right
    coming through the disc.(tension) and of course my long arm machine only uses one
    kind 0f thread. did you change the brand of the thread is this different then
    the kind you used before. i have a 1600p janome on my quilting table . but
    they are fussy. and yes lots of oil.

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    check your oil, when was the last time you changed your needle? I find I need to change mine for every quilt, check for lint between your tenisen disk's. Is your new thread the same brand and weight? I have found that some brands the color seams to affect the way a machine will accept it- blks can be a ruffer feel than say cream or white or even dark brown. These problems happen to everyone and on every machine. once you learn how your machine likes to be treated it becomes second nature to keep her running smoothly. Good luck

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    I had trouble with the thread breaking, then found out that my needle wasn't in straight. It was off just enough that the thread was breaking quite often. After I turned my needle so that the eye was straight out, it worked a lot better.

    It's frustrating when it doesn't work well. Hope you find your solution soon.
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    What kind of thread are you using - or more specifically what kind of spool is your thread on? Is it the cone type of a regular spool? I have the Queen Quilter. When I use a cone of thread, I put it on thread holders as normal. When I use a regular spool of thread, I have it coming off the spool horizontally rather than vertically. Hard to explain, but I can send you a picture if it helps.
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    Thanks everyone - I tried everything again and then just started turning dials and finally got it to work so finished that quilt top and have another one ready to load. Still think I need to trade this for another kind of LA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunster View Post
    If the thread is coming off the tension knob really tight, there must be something wrong with the thread path up to that point. Is it plenty loose before it goes into the tension disk? Is it actually caught in the tension disk? I don't have a TL, so can't give specific help. Usually if something is wrong right after I change the thread it's because there's something wrong with the thread path.
    This would be my guess. Any time I have problems with tension I completely rethread my Lizzie. Any problems I've had were my own fault--not the machine.
    Mary

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    Have you tried to lower your foot a little to reduce the amount of space between it and your quilt? I've got the Queen Quilter and had similar thread breaking problems at first. I've now completed 8 quilts on it and have probably had the thread break on me only once or twice. i still have the same thread on it that was breaking, so it wasn't the thread.

    Not sure which of the following worked, but here are all of the things I did:

    1) Lowered my hopping foot (presser foot)
    2) Re-inserted my needle trying to make sure it was positioned properly.
    3) Oiled my machine.
    4) Adjusted my bobbin tension.
    5) Adjusted my upper tension.
    6) Re-threaded my machine.
    7) Made sure my tension lever was down before sewing.
    8) Adjusted the legs on the table to be sure they were as level as possible.

    It took me many hours of angst and probably one or two (ok, maybe more) bad words. Was pretty certain I had the world's largest paperweight and was not going to be successful at all. I finally figured it all out, and now I really enjoy it.

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    I went through so many problems with my former TL. I know just how you feel.

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    Had the same problems with my Tin Lizzie on the last quilt I quilted. With the pressure foot up I started pulling the thread thru the needle to see how tight it was and then adjusted the tension accordingly. Remember to adjust the tension you need to turn it 1/2 if not 1 complete turn (I have turned my as much as 3 complete times). Eventually I will be able to buy all my thread from the same manufacturer so hopefull adjustments won't be necessary. It is a wonderful machine when operating properly.

    Carolyn

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    Ruby, the best thing I ever did was get rid of my Tin Lizzie, I told the Nolting company (they took my TL on trade in) about my problems so on my 2 1/2 year old machine I got $1,800 on $12,000 worth of QM and computer.

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