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    How to make this block?

    I have seen this block used many times, but I have never seen a name for it, nor instructions. I could play with it and figure it out, but I'm wondering if anyone has seen any tutorials for it or knows of short cuts, etc.

    I want to do it scrappy, so I need to know the dimensions of the squares to cut into triangles. I'm looking for guidelines so I can determine later what size block I want. I prefer to go big and trim down, if that makes sense. Also, I don't want to stress over points; I'd like to have them but won't worry if they get clipped a little, if that makes instructions easier.

    Thanks in advance for your input!
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    http://tlc.howstuffworks.com/home/al...uilt-block.htm

    These directions aren't very good . . . but at least this will give you a place to start.
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    Thanks, but I don't see any information to determine sizing. I'd like to know if the small square is say 2" finished, how big should I cut the small triangles (or the square I cut in half to make them) and how big should I cut the big triangle?
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    If the small square is 2" then the two triangles are each 2" on each side, and the big triangle is 4" on each side. Those are all finished dimensions. You would cut the fabric just as you would for HST's. Add 7/8" to be close to exact, or add an inch and trim down.

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    I've seen it referred to Hidden Square but I'm not sure.
    Here's a tutorial that I've saved.

    http://bronzewombat.blogspot.ca/2011...gle-block.html

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    When I'm really stumped by a pattern, I draw each piece out (actual size), on 1/4" graph paper. The 1/4" grid allows you to see the actual seams and how they fit together.
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    I looked the block up on EQ6. They call it 4 patch straight furrow.

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    I'm not sure if this is correct, by I would assume that whatever your small square measures, you would double for your large square, so 2" finished small square = 4" finished large square. Then, using the rule of thumb for HSTs, you would cut your squares 1" bigger, so for the small HSTs, you would cut your squares 3-1/2" before cutting them in two and cut your large squares 5-1/2" before cutting them apart. You would then have to trim the HSTs down to get your correct size square. This is one that might be easier to paper piece.

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    "The Quilter's Recipe Book" calls this block "Brave World". It is considered a 4 patch and they recommend drafting on a 4 x 4 grid. By searching that name, I found this link http://www.quiltivate.com/blocks/2-brave-world and also this one http://www.brandywinevlyquilters.org/bvqsbommar9.htm. Lots of stuff comes up using "Brave World". I have always liked this block.

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    I would draw it on paper measure and add 1/2 inch to each piece..no problems.
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    The Brandywine Valley Quilters came through, as did all of you! Thanks for the help!
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    I know this block by the name MARYS' TRIANGLE. Here's a link for the math:

    http://phoenixquiltguild.org/meeting...sTriangle.html

    Also, from Sally Schneider - the Queen of Marys' Triangles, has this information:

    http://www.sallyschneider.com/supply...206%20hour.pdf

    Also known as Shaded Four Patch.

    Hope it helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by willferg View Post
    I have seen this block used many times, but I have never seen a name for it, nor instructions. I could play with it and figure it out, but I'm wondering if anyone has seen any tutorials for it or knows of short cuts, etc.

    I want to do it scrappy, so I need to know the dimensions of the squares to cut into triangles. I'm looking for guidelines so I can determine later what size block I want. I prefer to go big and trim down, if that makes sense. Also, I don't want to stress over points; I'd like to have them but won't worry if they get clipped a little, if that makes instructions easier.

    Thanks in advance for your input!
    Could you share the finished block size you are aiming for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrannieAnnie View Post
    Could you share the finished block size you are aiming for?
    I was looking for overall directions so that I could use any block size...I hadn't really settled on a size yet, although 8" finished would probably be fine.
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    tutorial

    http://www.treadleon.net/quiltshop/T...eadleonia.html

    I saved this, but haven't tried it.

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    I have made this block but did it as a paper pieced one. The square in the corner is #1, either triangle beside the square is #2 and the other is #3. The large triangle is #4.

    You can make it pretty easy that way any size you draft it to be. Once you have it together, you can always take it back apart and use that for measurements if you wanted to, but I think the paper piece method is easy and gives you nice sharp points.
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    I think Eleanor Burns has a book on this. Or is one of the blocks in one of her sampler books.......Bird's Nest or something like that. It is a basic pieced block...squares and HST. My suggestion on determining size would be. Even numbered, no fractions on the Finishd block size will help you figure out the math of the components.....

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    The block can't be trimmed to size without loosing points. It must be initially cut and sewed accurately meaning scant quarter seams.. Draw the size you want on graft paper and measure each section with seam allowances. Otherwise a lot of speculation and figuring different sizes. You don't say what size you want the finished block to be.you say that you will determine later what size block you want it to be.

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    http://bronzewombat.blogspot.ca/2011...gle-block.html
    This site shows how to make the block without cutting triangles. Very good directions.

    http://www.treadleon.net/quiltshop/T...eadleonia.html
    This site has even better directions, and shows how to cut the finished square to size keeping all your points.
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    I have a template for this block called the magic triangle by Sally Schneider Quilts. I have also found the directions for making it online. There is a book on the block also by the same teacher. I always had a problem with the 2 little triangles, not stretching them and making things go smoothly. You can certainly make this block without the template. The template is only used for squaring up the block.Here is a small demo of the idea.

    http://www.sallyschneider.com/tools.html

    and here is a version made without the template.

    http://www.treadleon.net/quiltshop/T...eadleonia.html

    And last a calculator to make the size that you want.

    http://phoenixquiltguild.org/meeting...sTriangle.html


    I used all of this information and my blocks came out perfect. I made the 6 inch blocks but the same concept would work on smaller ones.

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    I don't know the name but I have made it before. I know I got it from Quilters' Cache. It's usually used in conjunction with another block as a quarter of a block - if that makes sense.

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    I think the trick is that the side triangles are cut from a rectangle...that's what keeps the points right. I am usually pretty good at putting a block on graph paper, but I also knew it wouldn't work so well with this pattern. I think I've got it now, thanks to all the wonderful links you all have provided!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagzz View Post
    http://www.treadleon.net/quiltshop/T...eadleonia.html

    I saved this, but haven't tried it.

    PeggyB
    Love this method!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagzz View Post
    http://www.treadleon.net/quiltshop/T...eadleonia.html

    I saved this, but haven't tried it.

    PeggyB
    Love this method!!!!

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    I know it as birds in the air block

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