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Thread: I'm considering a new embroidery machine. Input needed.

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    Hello. I have a Brother SE-270D that I've finally decided my LOVE/HATE relationship I have with it has turned to hate.
    I have had a lot of problems with the machine ever since I first got it for Christmas a few years ago. I am unable to embroider with it at all because it leaves large loops of thread on top but they are larger underneath. I have tried pretty much every trick in the book to fix it. I've tried different types (polyester, rayon, etc.) of thread, different brands, I've cleaned the thing countless times, re-threaded, changed the bobbin thread, changed the needles, etc. etc. etc.......So, after a few years of grief with this machine, I'm considering throwing it out in the yard and shooting it.
    First, I would like to get a different machine, though.

    I would like to know what embroidery machine(s) you have or have used and how that worked out for you. Details about the machine you like and don't like and all that stuff, please.

    I do know I would like a 12" x 18" (or somewhere in that area) embroidery area.
    I would like a machine I can hook straight to the computer or at least use a jump drive. I don't want to deal with the "cards" anymore.
    I would love for the machine to have the abiltiy to embroider caps.
    Cutting jump threads automatically would be a big plus.
    I would like one that has multiple needles so I wouldn't have to do thread changes, but I priced one of those once for about $13,000. I don't see that happening. ;)
    I really don't care if the machine sews or not. I have a sewing machine...
    Thanks for any opinions or input on this subject. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButtercreamCakeArtist
    Hello. I have a Brother SE-270D that I've finally decided my LOVE/HATE relationship I have with it has turned to hate.
    I have had a lot of problems with the machine ever since I first got it for Christmas a few years ago. I am unable to embroider with it at all because it leaves large loops of thread on top but they are larger underneath. I have tried pretty much every trick in the book to fix it. I've tried different types (polyester, rayon, etc.) of thread, different brands, I've cleaned the thing countless times, re-threaded, changed the bobbin thread, changed the needles, etc. etc. etc.......So, after a few years of grief with this machine, I'm considering throwing it out in the yard and shooting it.
    First, I would like to get a different machine, though.

    I would like to know what embroidery machine(s) you have or have used and how that worked out for you. Details about the machine you like and don't like and all that stuff, please.

    I do know I would like a 12" x 18" (or somewhere in that area) embroidery area.
    I would like a machine I can hook straight to the computer or at least use a jump drive. I don't want to deal with the "cards" anymore.
    I would love for the machine to have the abiltiy to embroider caps.
    Cutting jump threads automatically would be a big plus.
    I would like one that has multiple needles so I wouldn't have to do thread changes, but I priced one of those once for about $13,000. I don't see that happening. ;)
    I really don't care if the machine sews or not. I have a sewing machine...
    Thanks for any opinions or input on this subject. :D
    I have Husqvarna Viking machines. I love my Diamond, which runs about $9000, maybe a little less. It has a huge embroidery area, computer hookup or memory stick. Check it out. I don't know about any other machines as I don't have any nearby dealers other than the Viking one. Viking has great online support also. You can get updates and upgrades via the internet no extra charge. They also have the new Ruby which is cheaper than the Diamond with most of the same features. You can check them out at www.husqvarnaviking.com. Good Luck in your search.

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    I just don't think you'll get many of those options without spending in the thousands, but if you do let me know! ;) I paid around 500 for my singer futura and love, but it's not a commercial machine, that sounds like what you want.
    good luck

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    grann of 6, I have been looking at (drooling over) some of the Husqvarna machines.
    IF I would spend that much on one, I would probably just go ahead and get a commercial machine
    Thanks so much for your post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kathy
    I just don't think you'll get many of those options without spending in the thousands, but if you do let me know! ;) I paid around 500 for my singer futura and love, but it's not a commercial machine, that sounds like what you want.
    good luck
    Yeah, several thousand! It's something to *THINK* about...and dream about...but I'm considering all options at this point.
    A commercial machine would be wonderful. I wouldn't mind a used machine, as long as I got it from a dealer or a very reliable person.
    A small business opportunity....

    In the end I will most likely end up with a Singer with a 5 x 7 embroidery area. But who knows!? This road is curvy right now. I just hope the road is short. My new sewing room is finished, and I'm mostly moved in....and I can't even get started.... :(

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    Have you looked into the possibility of getting a Babylock Enterprise? It does cost some money but it sounds like what you are looking for. Try http://www.babylock.com/embroidery/enterprise/

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    If you're set on multi needles, you need to be looking at commercial machines.

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    You can get a used 15 needle from SWF east and get a really nice start up package if you are going that route. I researched commercial but would up with a Babylock Ellisimo. You are entering a whole new ball game when you go to a multi needle machine!

    Here is a link to the used multi needle machine page:

    http://www.swfeast.com/en/preowned.asp

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    Butter Cream I have had 3 Brother emb maching I started with the lower end to start and I then went to a 8500D then to a 4000D. I have been happy with all my machine. If there is a way for you to try out the differnt machine in your area I would do that and see which one you like the best. I wanted the 4000D when i got the 8500D. But I was trying to save money. So 3 yr later I got the 4000D I held on to the 8500 and sometime will have both going at the same time or will sew on one while the other is running. Good luck on your quest

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    Check out the Babylock site. They have a 6 thread, computer, very easy to thread. This is what our LQS carries and I used them at a John Deere seminar. They also carry a 10 thread.

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    I have a Janome 11000 which meets most of your wishes/requirements I believe. I paid $5000 2 months ago and I think many places are selling them for $4000 now. It also is a regular sewing machine. I can't tell you all the stuff it does because I haven't learned it yet! :) I'm pretty sure you can buy the hoop to do baseball caps on it though.

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    I would say get the best one you can afford with the biggest hoop offered. I started out with the same machine you have now and 2-3 months later bought the Ellegante...3 months later I bought the Innovis 4000D, and then upgraded it to the 4500D.

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    In the meantime, while you're looking around, take your Brother to a reputable machine repair and have them check it out - sounds like your tension is WAY off. It might be fixable enough to use as a backup. Let us know what you do - I can relate to issues with machines....! I do like Vikings and Babylocks.

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    I have a Janome MB-4. It is a multi needle machine and I love it. It was around $6000 new but that included several add-ons. (digitizing software and snap on hoops).

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    I have 3 Brother machines, a sewing/embroidery, a sewing and a serger and I love them. I did have some problems like you are talking about and took it in to the dealer and it was out of time. Also, a lot of times they will take trade-ins, might check into that.

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    I am on my 4th Viking embroidery machine and loved them all. Everyone is different, however, so I would recommend you go to all the dealers in your area and try as many machines as you can. Buying through a dealer will give you the option for lessons on your machine and answers on any questions you may have in the future. Also ask the dealers about any used machines thay have. They usually offer a warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darlin121
    Have you looked into the possibility of getting a Babylock Enterprise? It does cost some money but it sounds like what you are looking for. Try http://www.babylock.com/embroidery/enterprise/
    That looks like a really nice machine.

    Isn't Baby Lock related to Brother???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace
    If you're set on multi needles, you need to be looking at commercial machines.
    I'm not set 100% on a multi-needle machine, but I'm not opposed if I can find one cheap enough. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by scowlkat
    You can get a used 15 needle from SWF east and get a really nice start up package if you are going that route. I researched commercial but would up with a Babylock Ellisimo. You are entering a whole new ball game when you go to a multi needle machine!

    Here is a link to the used multi needle machine page:

    http://www.swfeast.com/en/preowned.asp
    Thank you for the link. I will definately check it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texas granny
    Butter Cream I have had 3 Brother emb maching I started with the lower end to start and I then went to a 8500D then to a 4000D. I have been happy with all my machine. If there is a way for you to try out the differnt machine in your area I would do that and see which one you like the best. I wanted the 4000D when i got the 8500D. But I was trying to save money. So 3 yr later I got the 4000D I held on to the 8500 and sometime will have both going at the same time or will sew on one while the other is running. Good luck on your quest
    THank you. I started out with a Brother sewing machine. My mom always had a Brother and has a newer Brother now. My luck hasn't been so good with the Brother machines the past few years. :( I'm glad you've had good luck with yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmaybee
    Check out the Babylock site. They have a 6 thread, computer, very easy to thread. This is what our LQS carries and I used them at a John Deere seminar. They also carry a 10 thread.
    thanks. A John Deere seminar??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggiemom
    I have a Janome 11000 which meets most of your wishes/requirements I believe. I paid $5000 2 months ago and I think many places are selling them for $4000 now. It also is a regular sewing machine. I can't tell you all the stuff it does because I haven't learned it yet! :) I'm pretty sure you can buy the hoop to do baseball caps on it though.
    That sounds like a beautiful machine! ;) Thanks for the reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuesy
    I would say get the best one you can afford with the biggest hoop offered. I started out with the same machine you have now and 2-3 months later bought the Ellegante...3 months later I bought the Innovis 4000D, and then upgraded it to the 4500D.
    Wow! That's a LOT of upgrades in a short amount of time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunters grammy
    In the meantime, while you're looking around, take your Brother to a reputable machine repair and have them check it out - sounds like your tension is WAY off. It might be fixable enough to use as a backup. Let us know what you do - I can relate to issues with machines....! I do like Vikings and Babylocks.
    Thanks for the reply. There is a machine repairman near, but he really doesn't work on computerized machines. Anywhere else I know of is about 1.5 hours away...I was considering having the machine serviced, but my husband said it wasn't worth it. lol. I may have to check the shop out that I have in mind and just see about a quote on fixing the SE-270D while I'm there checking out what they have. ;) I know for sure they carry Husqvarna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craftmama
    I have a Janome MB-4. It is a multi needle machine and I love it. It was around $6000 new but that included several add-ons. (digitizing software and snap on hoops).
    That sounds like a nice machine. I will have to look into that. Thanks.

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