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    Machine & Table Opinions Needed

    Hi, I'm Lisa and this is my first post on these boards but I've read a Lot and done a lot of searching for specific info. I've only been sewing and quilting for a few months but I'm quite addicted and want to invest in my equipment and my space. I have made 3 (plus one in progress) baby/crib size and one throw size quilt as well as several other small projects. All of these have been pieced and straight line quilted on my Brother CS6000i, which actually does a decent job of it, but the throat space is way too small to manage anything larger. So now I am in the market for a machine that can handle larger projects and that I can hopefully also learn FMQ on eventually. I am also turning half of a bedroom into my sewing space (other half reserved for grandchildren visits and sleepovers) and would like to be able to have both machines "ready to go" at the same time, likely one more for piecing and small projects, one for mostly quilting.
    Oh, one more tidbit - I don't really live close to any local quilt shops where I can go test drive machines or build a support system. Whatever I get will likely be from Amazon and or bought online.
    My questions are:
    1. I'm looking at Juki TL2010q vs. Brother PQ1500SL - is the speed control and other differences really worth the price difference of $460? Is the foot thread cutter on the Juki hard to manage?
    2. Are there other machines I should consider that would give me comparable features at a better value?
    3. I'm looking at SewEzi tables, possibly the portable for my small CS6000i and the grande for whichever "quilting" machine I get. I think these would work great in my space, and I have height adjustable folding tables I can use as extended surface area when actually quilting anything large. Are they worth the cost? Are they sturdy and also good ergonomically for these machines?

    I apologize for all the questions, but it's so hard to know what to decide on first to move forward. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer!
    Last edited by QuiltnNan; 07-09-2019 at 12:39 PM. Reason: shouting/all caps

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    HI & Welcome!

    You are asking great questions. Here is how I look at those price difference dilemmas in life. Consider how long you will have and enjoy the machine. Price it out by price per day. It is usually pennies so get the one that will use over cutting cost corners.

    I invested in the machine with added features so I could grow into them. My machines are used every day. I love having the speed control buttons on the Crescendo and Brother Dream. I will always want to have a thread cutter and needle threader on my machines.

    Re Question # 3. Do you have any thrift stores in the area? Look for a sturdy table that can be used or modified to your needs.

    Good luck on your decisions!

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    Welcome from western NY and happy quilting
    I have a Juki 2010Q and just love it for FMQ and ruler work. I have a different Juki for piecing, but if I didn't, I'd do it all on the 2010.
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    I also have the Juki TL2010Q- it's a fantastic machine for quilting and piecing. I recommend it highly. The foot pedal is fine. You just have to get used to it. My only problem with the Juki is I can't get the threader to work. I've tried and tried and it's just not a good one. I have one on my Bernina that works perfectly. So I thread it the old-fashioned way.
    Good luck in whatever you choose and welcome to the board! This is a great forum.

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    I have a Janome Magnolia 7330 and it does a great job quilting. I don't recall what the throat space is though

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    Welcome to the board.
    Either The Juki 2010 or the Brother PQ1500s would be great for what you want. I have the Brother PQ1500s and haven't missed the speed control- but, I learned to Free Motion Quilt back in the Upper Neolithic before there were speed controllers on domestic machines, so I am used to controlling speed using the foot pedal alone. If you've never FMQ then it might be easier to learn with a machine like the Juki where you can limit the speed with a slider so that you can concentrate on what your hands are doing. Don't know if that would make it worth the extra money over the cost of the Brother. Both the Juki and the Brother have the same threader and it is definitely more finicky than the threaders that Brother puts on their other domestic machines- so if you would prefer the speed controller, then don't let the fiddlyness of the Juki threader put you off.

    Have you tried FMQ on your CS6000i? I know of several folks who have done beautiful free motion quilting and free motion embroidery on them. You might want to try some FMQ on that to get a feel for whether or not the speed control is something you want or could do with out. You can get a feel for FMQ by buying some of those cheap packages of felt from your local craft shop (Michaels or JCMoore): Layer two sheets together (no batting needed) and pin in a couple of places, then try doing some basic loops, curves, lines, etc. to get a feel for machine speed and hand speed.


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    You all sure know how to welcome a newbie and help me out. Thank you so much, I truly value your input! I have tried FMQ on my CS6000i for about 5 minutes, lol. It's something I want to learn but just haven't had the time to devote to it yet. I'm leaning toward the Juki but love learning all I can about both before making a final decision. Keep the opinions coming!

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    I was totally in love with my Juki2010 until the electronics went out after two years of use. I figured out how to disable them so I could continue to use it. I also didn't have local support and got quoted over $400 to ship it to Juki and maybe have it fixed (they weren't sure). I've heard from others that their local dealer fixed the same problem for about $100. Shows that local support can be a big plus.


    I finally got tired of it, and bought a Juki8700 with no electronics and I love that machine, but have no idea if one could FMQ on it. I have an LA so didn't need that. The 2010 is now mostly a bobbin winder since that is a real pain on the Juki8700. Knowing what I know now, I'd have opted for the 8700 to start with (is cheaper too), but again, I don't have a need for FMQ so did not consider that.

    I never had trouble with the Juki threader, it took a few tries to get the hang of it, and you do need to have the thread in the right spot or it won't work. I do miss having a needle threader a bit, don't miss the speed control one bit as I have very good control with the Servo motor on the 8700 ( I have it turned way down) and don't miss the needle down or the thread cutter.
    My name is Cathy - and I'm addicted to old sewing machines and their attachments.

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    Here is a link to some videos on threading the 2010Q... i'm not sure which one clicked with me, but one of them turned the light bulb on
    https://www.youtube.com/user/elbertd.../0/oiMNQr15e5s
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    Welcome to this board.

    I have a different Juki it is straight stitch only, it has a 9" throat, I can FMQ a large double quilt. It is a real workhorse just requires oiling and cleaning.
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    Welcome to the forum. I have no opinion on the two machines that you are looking at since I have never used either, I have a janome and love it. However, I did own a sewezi table with my prior machine. I bought it as a package with the machine. I also sold it with the machine when I upgraded to a different machine. The table itself was fine, sturdy, well made, no issues with the table itself, my only issue was the surface area was way to small. I know you said you had folding tables you could use when working on larger quilts, but you would need two, one for the back and one for your left side of the machine, and move the sewezi table, and set up the two tables every time you wanted to FMQ. If your interest is to sink your machine for a flat bed,there are plenty of hacks on Pinterest and YouTube to show you how to do just that, and plenty of Ikea or Craigslist deals that will provide you the space you will need without the hassle of messing with setting up and moving tables.
    I do want to add, since you said you were not located near a LQS, I've read on here now happy people are with their sparrow sewing machines. You asked about other machines and since you said you would be ordering online, Amazon sells these, it might be a better value.
    And last, your idea of setting up a permanent spot for sewing is great, you'll love it, but your "theory" of using only half the room....... Sounds good. But I can almost guarantee you'll have to clean WIP off the beds when the grands come over within a year. Lol....
    enjoy, good luck and happy sewing.
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    I have a SewEzi table, and I love it. I've had it for 7 years and use it all the time. I love that it is portable, and I take it to retreats. I put it next to the dining room table or use folding tables when I need a big workspace.

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    Welcome from Maryland! I have the Janome MC 8200 Horizon and its table. Love 💕 the features and intuitive nature. It has an 11” throat, auto thread cutter, needle up/down. Less expensive than its bigger cousins (8900 and larger numbers) but does everything I need and more. Quietly.

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    Check out Sewing Machines Plus website. They have a credit plan if you need it. With that being said, I have purchased two of my Janome machines from them and could not ask for anything more. Love my Janome 1600P (straight stitch only) for quilting and my Janome 6500MC for piecing. Yes, I can do both on either machine, but we put the 1600P on a small Grace frame and this allows me to free motion stipples/meanders/ and loops so much easier.
    I'm sure that whatever machine you purchase you will be in love with too.
    Last edited by QuiltnNan; 07-10-2019 at 05:27 AM. Reason: shouting/all caps

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindaschipper View Post
    Check out Sewing Machines Plus website. They have a credit plan if you need it. With that being said, I have purchased two of my Janome machines from them and could not ask for anything more. Love my Janome 1600P (straight stitch only) for quilting and my Janome 6500MC for piecing. Yes, I can do both on either machine, but we put the 1600P on a small Grace frame and this allows me to free motion stipples/meanders/ and loops so much easier.
    I'm sure that whatever machine you purchase you will be in love with too.
    Agreed—Sewing Machines Plus is a terrific company online. I bought my first little Janome from them (had questions, talked to a real person to order it) and the next time I callef in two weeks to order other stuff, tslked to the same guy and he remembered my name!

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    I have an Arrow Gidget table and really like it for the price. It is portable but I've never moved it once set in position although I found it easy to move to one place to another when I moved. If you go to allbrands.com you can compare different sewing tables of all kinds. The Gidget is less expensive on allbrands than on Amazon.
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    I could’ve written your post almost word for word. I started out with the CS6000i too (and still use it for miscellaneous projects, zig zag stitch, etc.), it is an excellent machine for its price point.

    When I was ready to branch out I did a ton of research and settled on the PQ1500. I have been thrilled with this machine and have no regrets. Side note, the power cord and pedal work interchangeably on both machines, which makes it easy to swap them out without reaching down behind my desk.

    Speaking of the desk, I purchased this table: https://www.amazon.com/Sauder-Select.../dp/B005405RBS
    For the price, I’ve been very happy. I can store my CS6000i down underneath on the shelf by my feet, I have some storage in the cabinet, and since my table is in the living room, I like that the extension is collapsible for when people come over and I need to tidy up.

    There are more expensive solutions out there and maybe some of the additional features are worth it, but for my budget I have been absolutely happy with my choices/setup.

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    TouchofRustic, I have actually looked at the white version of that cabinet as well. Do you use your PQ1500 on top of the table or have you made a drop-in spot for it? I'm really wanting a flatbed area but wondered if my handy DH could make that happen with a less expensive cabinet like this - IF the top is strong enough to hold the weight of the drop-in wood plus the machine. ???
    Also - did you buy your PQ1500 online?
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    Hi Lisa! I use the machine on top with the extension table that’s included with the machine. It’s not ideal, but the height isn’t too bad, ergonomics wise. The table is particle board with a laminate top, it’s not real wood. I’d imagine you’d have a tough time cutting into it cleanly and I’d be concerned about the resulting strength of the table. The PQ probably weighs like 20 lbs i’d guess? Yes I bought my machine on amazon.

    There are tables like this one: https://www.amazon.com/Craft-Hobby-Essentials-62007-Platform/dp/B07QKFYDRT
    Which are drop-in-ish...but for more money I didn’t love the look (since mine’s in the living room), I wanted the storage below for the 2nd machine, and collapsibility.
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    I have the Juki and the thread cutter on the foot is optional. I can disconnect it and use the button on the machine to cut. I have the Brother 1500 and it's been a workhorse for about twenty years but was having a few issues so I got the Juki. I like the Juki, it has easier tension setting. And my Brother 1500 feet fit it. I didn't have to invest in new ones. Both are great machines for quilting.
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    I have the PQ1500 and have had it about 4 yrs with no problems. Tension setting once set you don't have to mess with much, and it will take any thread you want to feed it. Very easy to do regular maintenance on. I have mine mounted on a Grace EZ2 frame and have done many many quilts on it. I bought mine on-line and have been very happy with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selm View Post
    I have an Arrow Gidget table and really like it for the price. It is portable but I've never moved it once set in position although I found it easy to move to one place to another when I moved. If you go to allbrands.com you can compare different sewing tables of all kinds. The Gidget is less expensive on allbrands than on Amazon.
    I use my Arrow Gidget II table with my Bernina 550 for retreats - this table is longer and wider than the SewEzi. I found an excellent price Sewing Machines Plus!
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    [QUOTE=zozee;8275455]Agreed—Sewing Machines Plus is a terrific company online. I bought my first little Janome from them (had questions, talked to a real person to order it) and the next time I callef in two weeks to order other stuff, tslked to the same guy and he remembered my name![/QUOTE

    I agree ! Every single thing that I have ordered from them, they went the extra mile to talk and answer my questions. I never felt rushed or pushed into one product over another. The owner actually called me once to tell me that a foot I had ordered was back ordered...real people, real customer service!

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    I would put my extra money into the machine I wanted, and deal with a table later. There are tons of you tube videos on how to drop a sewing machine into a table or how to raise the height of your table top to your sewing machine bed height..what I did was use an old formica topped table and cut out the place for the machine, made a simple box for it to set in, and attached it to the table. A little turtle wax on the table top and a quilt moves like it's on ice.

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    I absolutely love my Juki 2010. You will too!

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