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    Magnifier vs. Video Feed

    I recently got a sewing table so my machine is at proper height for my arms, but now I'm struggling to see. My machine is now flat instead of tilted & it's now 3" lower. Bernina sells magnifiers for my machine, but I was wondering whether I might just be better off setting up a large computer monitor at eye level & aiming a video camera at my machine needle so that way I'm not having to strain my neck by looking downward for hours while quilting. Has anybody tried a live video feed? How did it work?

    Also wondering if anyone was getting neck/shoulder pain from tilting neck down to see where to quilt, but was helped by a magnifier. I have close to 20/20 vision & TONS of bright lighting in my sewing studio (plus natural light from windows with a UV film) so it's not my vision. I've had multiple neck & back surgeries so tilting my neck down is difficult & very painful, but I'm not about to give up a hobby/job I love this much!

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    I have the bernina magnifying glasses. They fit just above the needle area and personally stopped using them as it was so difficult to get a clear focus.
    Not sure about the video.
    have you thought about trying to tip the machine? This would help your neck more than the other ways. Try usin a thin book under front of machine until it comes a comfy slope, this is what I do as I have neck issues. The front isn't level but my back of machine stays on back place.

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    I used to tilt it when I had it on top of the table, but I can't do that now that it is flush with the tabletop. It did help some doing that, but I still had to tilt my head down somewhat & that is a huge struggle for me to maintain for more than a minute or two.

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    Maybe the table isn't a good option for you. Were you more comfortable the other way?
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    I would be worried if there was a delay in what you were viewing. I got a Bluetooth wireless speaker so I could listen better on my tablet while watching TV and there is a delay that drives me nuts!! I would suggestion you rethink the placement of your DSM. You have to be comfortable at where you sit to your DSM. Good Luck.
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    maybe if you push your chair back a bit.

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    Can you tilt the table? If it is inset, the machine will not slide out, as long as the angle is not too extreme. Maybe you could set the legs into something to secure them to the angle you need and to the floor so that the table does not tip over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yngldy View Post
    Can you tilt the table? If it is inset, the machine will not slide out, as long as the angle is not too extreme. Maybe you could set the legs into something to secure them to the angle you need and to the floor so that the table does not tip over.
    This is what I was going to suggest. Seems to be the answer.....try it what can it hurt?

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    I have two of these. One in my workshop tote and one on my machine at home. Most every one in a class sees mine and wants one, many go online while in class and orders one. My guild ordered a lot in one order and got a discount. Wonderful company and great customer service.
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    The Big Look seems great, but would not solve the neck/head angle problem. I recently saw dash cams advertised for a low price. They have a video feed with a screen, but I couldn't tell where you put the screen. That might be something you could look into.

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    With the Big Look I don't have to tilt my head, I lower my eyes and see everything. The magnifier is not at needle level, it's at eye level.
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    Unless you put the camera for the video feed on the front of your machine preferably in line with how you look at your machine it would be very hard to use. There would also be a considerable learning to curve to learn to look at the feed and use your hands on the machine below. I would also be concerned about the reliability of the video feed (we all know how tricky tech stuff can be) and as someone stated there could be delays or even pauses. Another concern would be how sharp a pic you would get. If you don't have a very sharp picture, it's not going to be usable.

    My husband has used a Go Pro video camera but not for a live feed. I really can't remember how good the picture was.
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    I recently had DH cut me from styrofoam a form fitted 'table' to fit my machine. He used 2-2" thick slabs of insulation from left overs so they measured just about 18" to the left of the machine bed an wrapped around the free arm of the machine. I then stacked the two pieces and covered them with a heavy gauge plastic. And as for being able to see I have a 1" plastic raised bed form at the back and wedging to nothing at the front so my machine is then tilted forward enabling me to see at this angle instead of having me to strain looking at the he area of the needle. Sorry if I'm not explaining this very well but if you would like to see a picture I will try to send one. Just send me a PM. I'm too cheap to spend money on a table made for my machine! A Margurite ? has a table made from full size sheets (or at least almost full size sheets) tutorial out on the web. Good luck to you!

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    I have problems with my shoulder and neck so I know how painful it can be. If you are having to bend your neck to see, it sounds like you need to raise your table or lower your chair. I do have the magnifying set for my Bernina and I use them when I sew on dark colours. I can see by just lowering my eye not my neck. I have no experience with a video feed. You might go over to Amy's site as she does video for her site and ask her. She is also a member of QB but her site is www.freemotionquiltingadventures.com

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    Thank you all so much for your ideas! My brother has suggested getting a USB microscope. I'm going to try that (hook up to laptop next to sewing table & then put the monitor behind the machine at the back of the table & connect that to the laptop). I will update this thread once I've had a chance to try it out.

    I have already tried the other ideas & they didn't work out. I was able to get shims underneath the front of my machine & that helped at bit. The main problem is that I am 5'11" and have a very long torso & long neck. My table/machine is at the proper height for my arms. My chair is at the proper height for my legs & back. The issue is that I either need to slink down in my chair, hurting my back, or I need to bend my neck forward as far as it goes (which isn't far since I have almost no range of motion to bend my neck forward due to past surgeries). I realize it will be a learning curve to quilt while watching a raised monitor, but I learned to touch type with my monitor sitting on top of 3 phone books, so I'm sure it's possible to learn to move my hands to quilt while looking at a monitor -- it's just a matter of lots of practice ... which will be more do-able once I can sit up straight with my neck in a more natural, ergonomic position.

    If that doesn't work, I will either have to look into ordering a magnifier or contact Amy about a video feed.

    Again, thank you all so much for your ideas. They truly helped!

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    I think your machine table needs to be higher. Maybe put it up on wood blocks or a wood platform.

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    Makers of quilting videos are filming and I assume someone is monitoring the recording. They might have a special resolution monitor for real time. You might look at photographic supplies.
    Here's a link:
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/...camera-monitor
    You could probably use a table top monitor
    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/On...4/N/4028759510

    There are other camera stores that might have more info

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    Quote Originally Posted by annette1952 View Post
    I think your machine table needs to be higher. Maybe put it up on wood blocks or a wood platform.
    It sounds like that to me, too. I have an adjustable height chair so I can get the height of the chair right for the height of my sewing table
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bree123 View Post
    I recently got a sewing table so my machine is at proper height for my arms, but now I'm struggling to see. My machine is now flat instead of tilted & it's now 3" lower. Bernina sells magnifiers for my machine, but I was wondering whether I might just be better off setting up a large computer monitor at eye level & aiming a video camera at my machine needle so that way I'm not having to strain my neck by looking downward for hours while quilting. Has anybody tried a live video feed? How did it work?

    Also wondering if anyone was getting neck/shoulder pain from tilting neck down to see where to quilt, but was helped by a magnifier. I have close to 20/20 vision & TONS of bright lighting in my sewing studio (plus natural light from windows with a UV film) so it's not my vision. I've had multiple neck & back surgeries so tilting my neck down is difficult & very painful, but I'm not about to give up a hobby/job I love this much!
    I have the same issues due to past injuries, and what worked for me was using a former "teacher's desk" that I got at a resale shop to set my machine on, and then lowering my sewing chair untill I was eye level with the needle. I just have to use the edge of the desk to help me get up, but it makes sewing much easier. Fidget until you find what works. You could try adding a platform of some kind on the desk you have, that might also work. As long as your feet are comfortably on the floor, you will work better for the effort.
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    I use the Big Look and it can be adjusted easily--it makes me sit back in my chair--be sure the table is set so the work surface is keeping your elbows at a 90 degree angle--it has helped with my neck and shoulder issues--look them upnon-line and see what you think.

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    The USB microscope would probably work, as long as you get it angled right. I use a document camera at work as an alternative to writing on the whiteboard, and it works really well. It's basically just a little camera on a stand with a video out (HDMI or VGA) that we hook to a projector, monitor, etc. There is no delay, and it's pretty easy to learn to manipulate objects under the camera while watching the screen. I don't know how much it would cost, but they have come down in price substantially over the last few years. My only advice would be to find one with a video out instead of USB, so that you can attach it directly to a monitor.

    Good luck - it can be hard to find solutions to mobility limitations, but it sounds like you're on the right track.

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    It just occurred to me that you could contact your local agency that deals with the sight impaired and ask if they have arranged something for one of their clients that might work for you. They might have experience with something along the lines you are considering and may be able to give you some advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onebyone View Post
    I have two of these. One in my workshop tote and one on my machine at home. Most every one in a class sees mine and wants one, many go online while in class and orders one. My guild ordered a lot in one order and got a discount. Wonderful company and great customer service.
    http://www.thebiglook.co/
    thank you for that link. I had to laugh at the site though, their brevity reminds me of back when we sent telegrams and were charged the earth per word.

    I am losing my vision at a fairly rapid rate, I'm going to ask my opthamologist to write me a prescription
    Thank you again

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