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    Quote Originally Posted by Scissor Queen View Post
    Personally I think it's a pretty sad point we've come to when you have to ask permission to display your *own* work. No matter who designed the pattern, you made the quilt.
    yep, makes it NO fun at all!

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    Just curious! If someone used an old traditional pattern, what would the contest still require someone's permission? I don't use purchased patterns. And generally not even patterns from books------------outside of general ideas
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    This is not a case of right or wrong in anyone's opinion, legal or not legal. It's a question of how to work within the entry rules that this particular quilt guild has established for their show, plain and simple. There have been a few good suggestions for the OP that may solve her immediate problem and I hope she follows up on those and lets us know how it worked out.

    Most shows are now requiring the designer's name if the quilt is not an original, many even ask for what inspired the quiltmaker. I think both of those tactics are quite fair. Only a few go to the extreme that Maine Quilts has gone. Those that require written permission from a designer are shooting themselves in the foot, imho, because they are truly discouraging many quilters from entering their shows, especially those just starting out on the competitive path.
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    When I've displayed quilts, and seen them in shows, there's always statement from the quilter - usually about the design and inspiration. This is where you need to reference the quilt designer and the magazine it came from. Then there will be no questions as to where the design came from.

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    I think it is ridiculois you need permission as you just need to give credit as it was just published for people to use and then you design it with your fabric

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    Quote Originally Posted by snow View Post
    I feel if the pattern is in a maginze or book or on the internet you should be able to display it when you make the quilt when they sold or gave the pattern to the maginze or for the books it is free to make and display. For you bought the maginze or the book so you should have the right to display it when you make a quilt from it.
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    I feel the same, if we use diferrent fabric then that is your quilt ..also you bought the pattern when you paid for the book or maginze..
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    From what I have read about copyright law, if you have bought the pattern, whatever project you make is yours to display. That right is yours when she sold it to you. I have researched this at great length because I do the newsletter for my quilt guild. I used to maintain our guild's facebook page as well, so we wanted to be especially cautious. It was suggested that anytime we posted a picture of a quilt on our page, we should list the designer of the pattern as well as the company that made the fabric, i.e. Moda.
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    I am glad to say, I recieved the permmision from McCalls. I made 3 phone calls today to the various numbers in the fromt of the book. I finally got a nice call from Tricia. She emailed me the information I needed. Thanks for all the help from all you nice folks !!! You are all grate. Rowena101

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scissor Queen View Post
    Personally I think it's a pretty sad point we've come to when you have to ask permission to display your *own* work. No matter who designed the pattern, you made the quilt.
    Scissor, I completely agree with you!! Some shows have gone completely out of the park with this nonsense. So afraid someone is going to sue someone. Get a grip, people!! It's quilts, not $1 million intellectual property!!

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    Good luck and let us know what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowena101 View Post
    I am glad to say, I recieved the permmision from McCalls. I made 3 phone calls today to the various numbers in the fromt of the book. I finally got a nice call from Tricia. She emailed me the information I needed. Thanks for all the help from all you nice folks !!! You are all grate. Rowena101
    So glad it all worked out well for you!! Thanks for letting us know. Best of luck with your entry!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KyKaren1949 View Post
    I used to maintain our guild's facebook page as well, so we wanted to be especially cautious. It was suggested that anytime we posted a picture of a quilt on our page, we should list the designer of the pattern as well as the company that made the fabric, i.e. Moda.
    Your group takes themselves entirely too seriously! I have so much stash, if I had to come up with the manufacturer of every piece of fabric I used in a quilt it would be impossible. I'm curious about the thought process your group went through to come up with a rule to include the company that made a fabric. Was it a request by fabric companies that led you to make this rule?

    I think it's overkill, but that's my opinion. I can't think of any better way to discourage quilters from sharing their talents. I've been sewing for 38 years and in all that time I haven't seen one lawsuit, complaint or even a nasty letter by a fabric company because their name wasn't included as the maker of a fabric someone used. Can you imagine how large the quilt label could end up being on a quilt, even if someone were able to come up with all the manfacturers? Would we then need to create a "map" of where to find Moda's scrap, for example?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostrider View Post
    This is not a case of right or wrong in anyone's opinion, legal or not legal. It's a question of how to work within the entry rules that this particular quilt guild has established for their show, plain and simple. There have been a few good suggestions for the OP that may solve her immediate problem and I hope she follows up on those and lets us know how it worked out.

    Most shows are now requiring the designer's name if the quilt is not an original, many even ask for what inspired the quiltmaker. I think both of those tactics are quite fair. Only a few go to the extreme that Maine Quilts has gone. Those that require written permission from a designer are shooting themselves in the foot, imho, because they are truly discouraging many quilters from entering their shows, especially those just starting out on the competitive path.

    Grrrrrrrrr! Some quilt blocks have been in the public domain for generations. What then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christine- View Post
    I think it's overkill, but that's my opinion. I can't think of any better way to discourage quilters from sharing their talents. I've been sewing for 38 years and in all that time I haven't seen one lawsuit, complaint or even a nasty letter by a fabric company because their name wasn't included as the maker of a fabric someone used.
    There was a dust up recently where exactly that happened, but it was the fabric designer. The designer's fabric was used in such a way that it landed in the gray area where she and her lawyers felt it was infringement, and the book publisher felt it was fair use. Google Carolina Patchworks and copyright and you should find some interesting reading. It's been settled, fortunately.

    Most quilters don't need to worry about it unless we're publishing a book, using a designer's collection for the quilt projects, and making plastic tote bags from a picture of the resulting quilt.

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    For some very thought provoking reading on copyrights and their absurdity within the quilting world, see Leah Day's blog post on Copyright Terrorism. It's quite long, but well worth reading in it's entirety.
    http://freemotionquilting.blogspot.c...terrorism.html
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    LOL...I have so much fabric that is not labeled...how in the world would most people know that...that is just silly...
    Quote Originally Posted by Christine- View Post
    Your group takes themselves entirely too seriously! I have so much stash, if I had to come up with the manufacturer of every piece of fabric I used in a quilt it would be impossible. I'm curious about the thought process your group went through to come up with a rule to include the company that made a fabric. Was it a request by fabric companies that led you to make this rule?

    I think it's overkill, but that's my opinion. I can't think of any better way to discourage quilters from sharing their talents. I've been sewing for 38 years and in all that time I haven't seen one lawsuit, complaint or even a nasty letter by a fabric company because their name wasn't included as the maker of a fabric someone used. Can you imagine how large the quilt label could end up being on a quilt, even if someone were able to come up with all the manfacturers? Would we then need to create a "map" of where to find Moda's scrap, for example?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hinterland View Post
    There was a dust up recently where exactly that happened, but it was the fabric designer. The designer's fabric was used in such a way that it landed in the gray area where she and her lawyers felt it was infringement, and the book publisher felt it was fair use..... It's been settled, fortunately. Janet
    I found a fabric designer with an excellent commentary on this! He is a true American! Two sentences at the end, including one about firing an attorney, says it all!
    http://craftnectar.com/2012/03/27/co...ng-reasonable/
    https://quiltdasher.blogspot.com

    I like to make lists. I also like to leave them laying on my sewing table and then guess what's on the list while at the fabric store. Fun game.

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