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    Question Pre-wound bobbins

    I'm doing a bit of on-line browsing today and came across pre-wound bobbins in a variety of attractive color tones. They seem awfully convenient.

    https://www.superiorthreads.com/shop...-set-2-pastel/
    https://www.superiorthreads.com/shop...-set-1neutral/

    I have a Janome 4800QE and have yet to see pre-wound plastic bobbins with 100% cotton thread. I'm kind of reluctant to use cardboard-sided bobbins and, besides, I really don't want to use poly thread in the bobbin if I'm using cotton thread on top. What has your experience been with pre-wound bobbins? Thanks everyone!! I'll be waiting to hear from you.

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    I'm curious too. I use prewounds all the time for embroidery, but not for anything else. the ones I use (NEBs) are poly and are a very thin thread (90 or 100??)
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    i have only used white. but i use them for piecing and for quilting on the frame. i like them
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    I admit I use them in my embroidery machine and in my sewing machine. I haven't had any problems with them. I bought them a few years ago on Ebay when the prices were still very reasonable so I stocked up. They have the plastic bobbin not the cardboard. I love the convenience of them.
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    I have a friend that likes them in her Janome Gem electronic version (forget what one). I have the regular Gem and they don't work in mine. go figure.

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    I use them all the time and love them. In fact, I liked Superior's Bottom Line pre-wounds so much, I switched to Bottom Line cones and now piece exclusively with it!

    Another benefit to those assorted donuts of pre-wounds is they're great for appliqué. The thread sinks into the fabric as beautifully as silk, but it's cheaper to purchase the bobbin assortment instead of many spools of silk.

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    Thank you so much for your input, Ladies. I appreciate it.

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    The only ones I have the thread was so poor it broke constantly - couldn't even use them to baste. So I won't use them again.

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    I have been told in quilting classes that one should NOT use pre-wound bobbins for piecing or normal sewing as the thread on them is not of the same weight as what you are stitching with on a spoil. They are meant to be used for embroidering.

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    i use them for embroidery they have much more on them than i can wined on the machine great for lace only ever used black +white---like the idea of using them for applique thank you pecish

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    I love them, that was a gift a couple of years ago and still using some of therm, the go forever becaise they are wound so tight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LoisM View Post
    I'm doing a bit of on-line browsing today and came across pre-wound bobbins in a variety of attractive color tones. They seem awfully convenient.

    https://www.superiorthreads.com/shop...-set-2-pastel/
    https://www.superiorthreads.com/shop...-set-1neutral/

    I have a Janome 4800QE and have yet to see pre-wound plastic bobbins with 100% cotton thread. I'm kind of reluctant to use cardboard-sided bobbins and, besides, I really don't want to use poly thread in the bobbin if I'm using cotton thread on top. What has your experience been with pre-wound bobbins? Thanks everyone!! I'll be waiting to hear from you.
    I am not familiar with your machine but just to point out something that these bobbins are the M size which are the large ones. I use this size on my long arm. I use the white nebs kind size L on my regular sewing machine and embroidery. I attended a seminar by a Viking embroidery educator and she advised not to use the prewound bobbins for embroidery as it affects the quality of the stitching. She said to try the same design with both our own wound bobbins and the prewound and notice the difference in quality. I haven't tried that yet but will sure do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam B View Post
    I have been told in quilting classes that one should NOT use pre-wound bobbins for piecing or normal sewing as the thread on them is not of the same weight as what you are stitching with on a spoil. They are meant to be used for embroidering.
    Not sure what a "spoil" is, but it's possible we're talking about different things. Bottom Line thread is designed specifically for quilting, piecing, and appliqué. There may very well be pre-wound bobbins for embroidery also, I'm not into embroidery so I can't say for sure. Bottom Line is 60 wt and very strong.

    eta: I just figured out you meant "spool". Well, I use Bottom Line both on my bobbin and on a cone, so that solves THAT problem!
    Last edited by Peckish; 11-23-2012 at 10:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charming View Post
    I am not familiar with your machine but just to point out something that these bobbins are the M size which are the large ones. I use this size on my long arm. I use the white nebs kind size L on my regular sewing machine and embroidery. I attended a seminar by a Viking embroidery educator and she advised not to use the prewound bobbins for embroidery as it affects the quality of the stitching. She said to try the same design with both our own wound bobbins and the prewound and notice the difference in quality. I haven't tried that yet but will sure do.
    Thanks for pointing out the fact that there IS a difference between the L bobbins and the M bobbins, Charming. My machine uses the L bobbin which is also sold on that site (Superior Threads). In my haste for an answer, I linked to the M page by mistake. The fact is, I already have so many beautiful threads, I think I'd better use them up before I buy any more. I'll just fill up a few bobbins to have at the ready but I definitely see some of these pre-wound in my future. The company has a number of videos on youtube which are kind of interesting.
    Last edited by LoisM; 11-24-2012 at 01:29 AM.

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    I did use them all the time but only in embroidery as they are not the same weight as the thread you should be using to quilt with. Several years ago I was embroidering lace jackets for balls for the christmas tree and absolutely tore up my Bro1500 machine to the tune of $700.00. It still needs repair as I bought my Bro4000D instead. You could not give me the wound bobbin thread factory to use in my machine. By the was I was using plastic sided bobbins so donated several boxes of them to CareCaps for use in her 15 Janome Decor computer machines. She has never had a problem while I lost an excellent and expensive machine. It used floppies and that I really liked.

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    Do not make the mistake I made
    Pre-wound bobbins from Superior Threads on metal are for appliquers; they do not fit Janomes
    SuperBobs on cardboard are for machines - they last til the thread is used up, no problems.
    I buy Bottom Line SuperBobs for my Jem Platinum and Jem Gold. BL is a 60 wt poly thread that lasts forever. I pieced a twin top with one bobbin. I am DEVOTED to them.
    Be mindful of what others have already told you - L size is what you want for sewing machines; Ms are for Longarms.
    I use Aurifil 50 wt cotton on top with the 60 wt bobbin; have for years, never a problem.

    Bob has a page on his site that tells you which machines will take his pre-wounds.
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    Last edited by gollytwo; 11-24-2012 at 05:35 AM.

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    I use the cotton ones for piecing, and the poly ones for embroidery. I only use the plastic ones because many have had problems with the paper ones and they don't work with the sensors on computerized machines. They do make cotton ones for piecing and I like them they last longer than ones wound by my machine. I just buy beige ones for piecing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam B View Post
    I have been told in quilting classes that one should NOT use pre-wound bobbins for piecing or normal sewing as the thread on them is not of the same weight as what you are stitching with on a spoil. They are meant to be used for embroidering.
    They have cotton ones that i buy from my LQS that are the same weight so this isn't true. There are embroidery one and regular cotton ones you just have to make sure you know what your buying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pam B View Post
    I have been told in quilting classes that one should NOT use pre-wound bobbins for piecing or normal sewing as the thread on them is not of the same weight as what you are stitching with on a spoil. They are meant to be used for embroidering.
    Boy, this sounds like the first class I took. If I had followed everything she said, I would not be quilting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gollytwo View Post
    Do not make the mistake I made
    Pre-wound bobbins from Superior Threads on metal are for appliquers; they do not fit Janomes
    SuperBobs on cardboard are for machines - they last til the thread is used up, no problems.
    I buy Bottom Line SuperBobs for my Jem Platinum and Jem Gold. BL is a 60 wt poly thread that lasts forever. I pieced a twin top with one bobbin. I am DEVOTED to them.
    Be mindful of what others have already told you - L size is what you want for sewing machines; Ms are for Longarms.
    I use Aurifil 50 wt cotton on top with the 60 wt bobbin; have for years, never a problem.

    Bob has a page on his site that tells you which machines will take his pre-wounds.
    http://www.superiorthreads.com
    Thanks for the link, golly. In short, it says:

    Superior Threads has many machine quilting threads consisting of four fibers: Cotton, Metallic, Polyester, and Silk. Each line offers unique quilting traits with a library collection of color palettes from which to choose from.
    A #40 thread is the industry standard medium weight for quilting thread. A #30 thread is thicker/heavier than a #40. The smaller the number, the heavier the thread becomes.

    Cotton

    • King Tut is a #40/3-ply Egyptian-grown extra-long staple cotton thread. King Tut really is nature's finest thread. A beautiful matte finish for any quilt project. Available in 133 variegated and solid colors.
    • MasterPiece is a #50 Egyptian-grown extra-long staple cotton thread. Available in 75 colors. Ideal for piecing and detail quilting.

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    I buy the plastic sided bobbins (polyester) from Long Creek Mills for embroidery and the cotton sided ones (I remove the cardboard before using) in my long arm and have had absolutely no problems. They do carry NEBs for the best price I have seen.

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    I have used prewound bobbins with cardboard (plastic does not work in any of my machines for some reason) with success in both my DSMs and my shortarm (I sold it recently). I have quite a collection of prewound bobbins with beautiful thread colors from Superior Threads. When I bought my Bailey LA, I found it uses Class 15 bobbins. Not to worry! I simply use the bobbin winder to transfer the thread from the L bobbins to Class 15 bobbins as needed for any project on hand.

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    I use Superiors pre-wound bobbins for piecing with cardboard sides in my Juki and my Babylock. No problems at all. I love them and the thread. If you're Leary buy pkg of 10 and try them. I just bought a 1/2 gross this time because I go thru them so fast.

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    A friend with an embroidery machine ordered the wrong size of prewound bobbins. There were 100 of them! They fit my Pfaff, and so far, no problem. The bobbin thread is thinner than the top thread, and it actually seems to help keep the 1/4" when quilting to have that thinner thread. All of these are white and I use the prewound on everything except really dark colors.
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    your Janome machine most likely uses Class 15 bobbins.
    most of the pre-wounds are Class L - whether paper or plastic.
    although an L will function in a Janome, the 15s are best.

    i love prewound bobbins.
    they are not only convenient, they have much more thread on them.
    i have purchased from this site several times.

    given the price of janome brand bobbins and of Egyptian cotton thread, these pre-wounds also save money.
    the bobbins were good quality and reusable. it's been a while because i bought a ton of them, so i don't know whether the bobbins are still re-usable.
    the color selection for cotton thread is limited to neutrals, but they will work well for piecing.
    they will also work well if you are quilting with cotton thread and can use a neutral color in the bobbin.

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