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luvTooQuilt 03-10-2012 09:42 PM

Binder attachment thingy...
 
during a shop hop on Friday I saw an industrial machine with a foot attachment that automatically took 2 1/4 strip binding, pulled it thru a funnel like attachment, folded it perfectly, threaded it under the foot to be sewn front AND back at the same time... This lady literally binded a king size quilt in less than 5 min... I WANT THAT !!!!! anyone have any idea if there is such a thing for NON-commercial machine?? -preferably a PFAFF ..

BrendaK 03-10-2012 09:50 PM

Man I never have seen anything like that , but would like to. I want that also. How big was it? Look forward to hearing if anyone else knows about this. Probably cost a lot. Thanks for asking. BrendaK

shawnan 03-10-2012 09:55 PM

Sounds wonderful doesn't it. I've never seen anything like that in the Pfaff book of feet, but then who know. I'll be anxious to find out this answer to this.

Handcraftsbyjen 03-10-2012 10:04 PM

Martelli makes one, it's called the Kwik Bind System and it's just shy of $150. I know it is for 1/2" as opposed to 1/4" binding but you see both sides at the same time. It also comes with a DVD as well as written instructions. I don't have one but have seen it demoed and know people who use it on their machines and love it. As far as I know, it can be used with pretty much any machine.

masufa 03-10-2012 10:09 PM

I have seen one of these and they can work on any machine, I haven't figured out how it wold go around the corners of the quilt.

Handcraftsbyjen 03-10-2012 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by masufa (Post 5049191)
I have seen one of these and they can work on any machine, I haven't figured out how it wold go around the corners of the quilt.

The Martelli system will miter the corners.

Jim 03-10-2012 10:24 PM

I have an industrial singer that is
only for bindings and it has the attachment ...doing the corners has to be rounded off or stopped and restarted ...only way possible...I dont like that so I nowadays do my bindings on regular machines

Peckish 03-10-2012 11:46 PM

I saw one a few years ago on a Bernina, it was really cool but as someone else said, I have no idea how it would go around the corners.

Feathers-N-Fur 03-11-2012 12:15 AM

I have a binding foot for my Brother, but I haven't mastered using it, and you have to pre iron your strips.

QuiltnNan 03-11-2012 03:30 AM

if one makes LOTS of quilts, $150 doesn't sound like much. I don't make that many, though. And I actually like the binding process

GemState 03-11-2012 05:12 AM

I have one for my Bernina. It works great, but does take some practice on the corners. I don't have it down pat yet but don't mind doing a little hand finishing on the corners when the rest goes so quickly. I have seen someone do the corners perfectly. I think it just takes quite a bit of practice.

romanojg 03-11-2012 05:29 AM

It sounds like the bias maker that used to be really popular for machines. I recently saw one on Sewing w Nancy; first time I had seen one in years. It does just what you said and I guess if it was large enough it would do the binding. Now my mind is spinning.

thepolyparrot 03-11-2012 05:46 AM

The Martelli system is really great if you do a lot of quilts or if you have arthritis in your hands and don't do hand bindings or something like that. It doesn't do front and back at the same time - you still have to sew the raw edge of your binding to the front of your quilt.

You can get just the Stitch n Ditch foot and spend a lot less than buying the whole system. This foot really does stitch in the ditch - but only along an edge, not out in the middle of the quilt. (adjustable)

It does mitered corners - you have to stop and start again, but there is a set of three sizes of Minute Minders that you can buy to make the precise miters for you.

The Zip Bind tool sets the size of the fold and the Zip Guns clip onto your measured binding to hold it in place, but these aren't strictly necessary to help you make good bindings.

Their online store is kind of confusing, but here are the binding tools: http://www.martellicatalog.com/mm5/m...tegory_Code=ZB

And here are their You Tube videos:
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...l2.2.1.7-1l6l0

Dandish 03-11-2012 06:37 AM

I have one for my Janome Horizon, but I've not tried it yet. I got the dealer to throw it and the blue to bobbin case into the deal when I bought my machine. Here's a video of its use:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShT0VQ3BIUM

Watching the video made me want to try it, but I don't have a quilt ready for binding yet! Apparently you can use straight or decorative stitches, and there are 2 additional "strip feeders" that you can buy for 7/16 and 5/16 wide binding.

Sadiemae 03-11-2012 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by thepolyparrot (Post 5049666)
The Martelli system is really great if you do a lot of quilts or if you have arthritis in your hands and don't do hand bindings or something like that. It doesn't do front and back at the same time - you still have to sew the raw edge of your binding to the front of your quilt.

You can get just the Stitch n Ditch foot and spend a lot less than buying the whole system. This foot really does stitch in the ditch - but only along an edge, not out in the middle of the quilt. (adjustable)

It does mitered corners - you have to stop and start again, but there is a set of three sizes of Minute Minders that you can buy to make the precise miters for you.

The Zip Bind tool sets the size of the fold and the Zip Guns clip onto your measured binding to hold it in place, but these aren't strictly necessary to help you make good bindings.

Their online store is kind of confusing, but here are the binding tools: http://www.martellicatalog.com/mm5/m...tegory_Code=ZB

And here are their You Tube videos:
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...l2.2.1.7-1l6l0

I had the zip bind system years ago and it was a total waste of my time and money!!!

Prism99 03-11-2012 09:56 AM

I have tried a couple over the years, including the pricey Martelli one. The ones for domestic machines (that are made for quilt bindings) are very difficult to master and fussy. I would not recommend investing in one. Ones made for commercial machines are undoubtedly better. There are some binding attachments for domestic machines that work pretty well for sewing tasks, such as putting bias binding around the armholes of a child's dress, but those cannot take the bulk of a quilt.

It's one of those fantasies we all have that usually don't work out well in reality. At least, yet. Maybe someday someone will invent one that actually works for home quilters.......

Skittl1321 03-11-2012 10:40 AM

Bernina makes one that looks fantastic- but it is almost $300 - for one size of binding (they make multiple sizes).

I actually like the look of rounded corners, so I wouldn't mind just rounding them to use the binder.

Unfortunately, it will be years before I can justify the price...

Lucio 03-11-2012 10:43 AM

I purchased the binding attachment for my Designer 1 and it was a complete waste of money. Not one of the salespersons could demo it. I finally made an appointment with the owner of the shop for the demo. She said she had never been able to use it with anything other than commercial bias tape and had to curve her corners because it is a hassle to get a decent mitered corner. One has to be ever vigilant to keep the bias feeding "just so" into the funnel so that it will sew evenly on both sides. In the time it takes to master all of this one could easily do a binding without this expensive attachment.

luvTooQuilt 03-11-2012 10:51 AM

i have the zip bind- its nothing like what I saw... And the attachment I did see was exactly like the Janome binding attachment.. I need THIS for a pfaff..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShT0VQ3BIUM

Sadiemae 03-11-2012 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by luvTooQuilt (Post 5050622)
i have the zip bind- its nothing like what I saw... And the attachment I did see was exactly like the Janome binding attachment.. I need THIS for a pfaff..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShT0VQ3BIUM

Call a Pfaff dealer and ask them.

yngldy 03-11-2012 12:13 PM

A few threads down someone had a link to a manual for a 301. The binding attachment is shown in the manual, if you would like to look at the process. I had one on my older machines, and used them for regular sewing, but not for binding on a quilt. Worked for regular sewing.

Christine27 03-11-2012 01:24 PM

I have the Janome binder attachment and love it. It was pricey, over $100, but has been totally worth it since I can't do handwork for any extended length of time. The corners took some practice but are working out fine. Finishing the end has also been a learning curve but I'm getting there. I've bound at least 11 quilts with it since September. I definitely can't bind a quilt in five minutes but I can get it done in about 30 to 45 minutes, sometimes less depending on the size of the quilt.

vondae 03-11-2012 04:29 PM

I agree with "QuiltnNan" I enjoy the binding process. Maybe we need to make a deal with some of you who don't. Could work out for all of us.

Prism99 03-11-2012 05:32 PM

When I Googled "Janome binder attachment quilts", the binder attachment in the Youtube video came up right away. When I Googled the same thing but replaced Janome with Pfaff, nothing even remotely similar came up.

My bet is that this is a new attachment for Janome and the other brands have not caught up with it yet. It is different from the usual binding attachment for sewing, in that the quilting attachment feeds the binding strip in from the right. That ribbon-like feed on the right side of the attachment is really different from regular binding attachments.

Phyllis nm 03-11-2012 08:51 PM

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SunlitenSmiles 03-12-2012 03:03 AM

but the stitching shows......like on a hot pad......it shows


my SINGER 301A came with this attachment, they all did, but the stitching shows on both sides which is ok for hotpads

Dawn227 03-12-2012 03:19 AM

I know Bernina had one. When I saw it last year I too wanted it. But it was about 250.00 can bind a lot of quilts fo that.
Has anyone tried the binder maker that ypu pull fabric through and it presses too?
Dawn227

be a quilter 03-12-2012 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by QuiltnNan (Post 5049367)
if one makes LOTS of quilts, $150 doesn't sound like much. I don't make that many, though. And I actually like the binding process

I am with you Nancy. I quilt because I like the process and am not in the mass market business. The binding is one of the relaxing aspects of quilting for me, seeing it all come to fruition.

quiltingfan 03-12-2012 03:55 AM

I have one for my Janome, unfortunately when I bought my machine and( I bought that at the same time ) I never went back for them to show me how to use it. I have only attempted once and did not get the hang of it. I would be interested in others that have it and how you start.

CRELLA 03-12-2012 04:01 AM

I had some quilys done an she rounded the corners

nanacarolyn 03-12-2012 04:34 AM

I worked in a sewing plat years ago they had them but the corners had to be rounded but they were fast

grann of 6 03-12-2012 05:00 AM

I have 2 different sizes for my Husqvarna Viking. I have never used them. I make my binding 2 1/2" and rarely use bias. The larger bias tape maker has slots for different sizes binding.

Steady Stiching 03-12-2012 05:30 AM

The thing about the binding attachement is that you have top stitching on both sides of the binding. After spending so much time making my quilt i don't want the binding to appear machine stitched.

cwcquilters 03-12-2012 06:54 AM

I just ordered one from Nancy's Notions. It is for low shank and is on sale at $17.49. There was a tutorial that I watched also. Sure will make life easier if I can get it to work as well.

Becky Mc 03-12-2012 07:12 AM

I have the Kwik Bind System and it does sew the front and back at the same time and miters the corners it takes a lot of practice which I haven't had time to do, set up takes a lot of time, and I did get that done. I did do a small peice and it came out good corners are nice to. But I can see where one would have to practice. It will fit any machine as it comes with all kinds of adapters for slant,high,low shanks. I hope to have time this spring to work with mine some more. It will even fit on my 15-91 singer. Which is the machine I want to use it on most.

DonnaQuilts 03-12-2012 07:40 AM

My local Janome store has one for Janome machines. It too is under $150. It was $126 the first time I saw it. That's how much things are going up. My Fiskars strip cutter was $23 when I bought it, now it is $50. Sieze opportunity when you are financially able because they will go up in price.

squires1042 03-12-2012 09:18 AM

I have a binding foot for my pfaff that I got from ebay, for my pfaff. It was less than $25, and it sounds like the one you saw but for home machines. Let me know if you need a pic and I'll see if I can post one.

Teri D 03-12-2012 09:35 AM

I saved up for the ridiculously expensive Bernina attachment and went back to the dealer a couple of times for hands-on instruction but I have never been able to get it to work once I get home. The strips that feed into it have to be cut absolutely perfectly and it can't handle the bulk of a sandwiched quilt. I believe there is a very steep learning curve with it and keep vowing to sit down and practice with it until I get it to work but it's been a complete disappointment and a total waste of $$$ for me. I can't even begin to imagine how to make mitered corners with it.

IdahoSandy 03-12-2012 09:49 AM

Check on www.Amazon.com first as I have seen binding feet there or www.clotilde.com. They are called bias tape binding foot. Not sure if this is the thingy you are talking about.

krabadan 03-12-2012 10:12 AM

They have them for Janome machines


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