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Butterflyspain 05-04-2009 09:26 AM

how much yardage of each fabric I need for this quilt. All it says is you need 10 Lights and 10 darks to make a 68 x 78" quilt.
Quilt is PP and I got the pattern at Hancocks of Paducah.

If only they would have said in their info about it whether it was Fat Qīs or Half yards I could have ordered the darned material.
Here is the link called Japanese Fans....

I would be very grateful if you could help Thanks so much

http://www.hancocks-paducah.com/Item...atterns--m-164

Elle

MadQuilter 05-04-2009 09:32 AM

It's a berautiful quilt and paper-pieced which allows for the use of odd pieces as well. Have you tried emailing them? They surely have the information.

sandpat 05-04-2009 09:40 AM

Wow Elle, that one is gonna be a real beauty! Looks hard to me, so you'll probably just breeze through it. I can't figure out the required yardage because I can't tell the size of the blocks...maybe someone on here can though. It appears that you by using 20 different fabrics though that you wouldn't need that much of each one. I'm guessing that a FQ of each would be enough :?:

I can't wait to see this one making progress...I'll be watching!

Kara 05-04-2009 10:20 AM

That's really not good on their part - no putting the size. IMHO...

I would email them and ask them for more info regarding the fabric. Like you said, if you knew, you would have ordered everything and been on your way sooner... and possibly saved yourself some shipping charges... I would maybe stress that, too...

Butterflyspain 05-04-2009 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by MadQuilter
It's a berautiful quilt and paper-pieced which allows for the use of odd pieces as well. Have you tried emailing them? They surely have the information.

Yes I just loved this one and I want to use some Asian fabrics I have, but I just need more. I will take your advice and ask them though. DAH I didnīt think of that.

Elle

Butterflyspain 05-04-2009 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by sandpat
Wow Elle, that one is gonna be a real beauty! Looks hard to me, so you'll probably just breeze through it. I can't figure out the required yardage because I can't tell the size of the blocks...maybe someone on here can though. It appears that you by using 20 different fabrics though that you wouldn't need that much of each one. I'm guessing that a FQ of each would be enough :?:

I can't wait to see this one making progress...I'll be watching!


I thought Fat Qīs at first, but I am not sure. I am going to email them, it is rather nice and will be a bit of a challenge I am sure.

Elle

Butterflyspain 05-04-2009 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by Kara
That's really not good on their part - no putting the size. IMHO...

I would email them and ask them for more info regarding the fabric. Like you said, if you knew, you would have ordered everything and been on your way sooner... and possibly saved yourself some shipping charges... I would maybe stress that, too...

I will email them and will put that idea forward.

Whats IMHO ????

Elle

sharon b 05-04-2009 10:37 AM



Whats IMHO ????

Elle[/quote]

In my honest opinion

omak 05-04-2009 10:40 AM

I always figure a top or backing at about five yards (maybe more, maybe less) - - if I need more, a border isn't a problem to match up.

So, if we are at fat quarters, that would be two and a half yards of light and 2.5 yards of dark ... = five yards, correct?
Lucky you! You figured it out!

The quilt measurements you sited are 68"x78" = 5'8"x 6'6" which equals
4.42 square feet ... hmmm ... I may be doing the math incorrectly ...
let's try this: 5304 square inches ... in 20 fat quarters, you have 7920 square inches ... that should do it!

You were right fat quarters.
did I do that all correctly?

omak 05-04-2009 10:41 AM

IMHO

In My Humble Opinion

I don't know how I know that, but <g> that's what it means. LOL

Ninnie 05-04-2009 10:45 AM

I love it beautiful. I also thought Fg at first, but not sure!


Ninnie

Shemjo 05-04-2009 10:57 AM

Waiting to find out what they tell you! Why didn't they include that info originally! :?

Butterflyspain 05-04-2009 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Shemjo
Waiting to find out what they tell you! Why didn't they include that info originally! :?

Heck I donīt know how they work, it just makes sense to me to give as much info as possible to increase sales. Think I am in the wrong job LOL

Butterflyspain 05-04-2009 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by omak
I always figure a top or backing at about five yards (maybe more, maybe less) - - if I need more, a border isn't a problem to match up.

So, if we are at fat quarters, that would be two and a half yards of light and 2.5 yards of dark ... = five yards, correct?
Lucky you! You figured it out!

The quilt measurements you sited are 68"x78" = 5'8"x 6'6" which equals
4.42 square feet ... hmmm ... I may be doing the math incorrectly ...
let's try this: 5304 square inches ... in 20 fat quarters, you have 7920 square inches ... that should do it!

You were right fat quarters.
did I do that all correctly?

Well you just blew my mind with all that maths. I am fairly new to quilting and have mainly done applique so havenīt needed to be maths proficient (unfortunatley I am not) I believe you Omak. I am going on the fat quarter calculation, and that works out.

THANK YOU so much Elle :D

dunster 05-04-2009 12:34 PM

Judy Niemeyer makes some beautiful patterns. I have two that I haven't had time (or the right fabrics) to try yet. Both of the patterns I have clearly say on the back how much yardage to get. (It's on the last page of instructions, visible within the plastic wrapper.)

If you look at her site you will find that there are quite a few corrections for the pattern you have selected. Be sure to check them out:
http://www.quiltworx.com/demo/pdfs/6_correction.pdf

In one of the corrections, she tells you to cut 42" strips, so these definitely aren't FQs. I think they are full yard pieces, though that seems like a lot of fabric, even for paper piecing. However I just added up the fabric requirements for another quilt (Glacier Pines) and it comes up to almost 20 yards, not counting backing. Ouch, that will be expensive! No wonder I haven't started mine yet. (But they do make gorgeous quilts, and her method of paper piecing is really good.)


Butterflyspain 05-04-2009 12:44 PM

Thanks for the tips Dunster, will be sure to check it out.

By chance is one of the quilt patterns you have the Flower one, Bird of Paradise"? That is a beauty.

I also liked the Rain Drops pattern. Hancocks sure have a lot of patterns.

Going to check quiltworks now.

Elle

Butterflyspain 05-04-2009 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by dunster
Judy Niemeyer makes some beautiful patterns. I have two that I haven't had time (or the right fabrics) to try yet. Both of the patterns I have clearly say on the back how much yardage to get. (It's on the last page of instructions, visible within the plastic wrapper.)

If you look at her site you will find that there are quite a few corrections for the pattern you have selected. Be sure to check them out:
http://www.quiltworx.com/demo/pdfs/6_correction.pdf

In one of the corrections, she tells you to cut 42" strips, so these definitely aren't FQs. I think they are full yard pieces, though that seems like a lot of fabric, even for paper piecing. However I just added up the fabric requirements for another quilt (Glacier Pines) and it comes up to almost 20 yards, not counting backing. Ouch, that will be expensive! No wonder I haven't started mine yet. (But they do make gorgeous quilts, and her method of paper piecing is really good.)

Dunster, Just printed out the corrections. Many thanks again would not have thought of that either.

Elle

dunster 05-04-2009 01:07 PM

The patterns I have are Cactus Rose and Glacier Pines. Both require some applique in addition to the foundation paper piecing, which is one reason I didn't start them right away. (I hadn't attempted any applique when I bought the patterns, on sale.) I saw Prairie Star made up at one of the local quilt stores, and wow! I want to make that one too.

You might get a quicker response to your question about yardage requirements from Judy Niemeyer's site, http://quiltworx.com/.
I imagine Hancock's will have to ask her anyway.


pittsburgpam 05-04-2009 01:11 PM

I've bought several patterns online and there are never the fabric requirements stated. I think that protects the writer from someone just seeing the picture of the pattern and the requirements without purchasing the pattern.

sandpat 05-04-2009 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by dunster
However I just added up the fabric requirements for another quilt (Glacier Pines) and it comes up to almost 20 yards, not counting backing. Ouch, that will be expensive! No wonder I haven't started mine yet. (But they do make gorgeous quilts, and her method of paper piecing is really good.)

20 yrds. for 1 quilt?????? That is crazy!! :shock: :shock: Heck, I'd have to refinance the house for that! Is there a lot of waste?? I'm going to have to google that pattern to see that...I'm sure it is gorgeous! Oooohhh..I just checked...it IS gorgeous!!

dunster 05-04-2009 05:38 PM

I agree with you, 20 yards would be a lot to devote to one quilt top. We don't really know for sure how much this pattern requires, since it hasn't told us. :(

That said, paper piecing does use more fabric than other patchwork. And pattern designers sometimes pad the fabric estimates so you don't run out. Most of us like to have leftovers for another project anyway.

It still seems like a lot, so I did some figuring... If you were to cover this quilt size ( 68x78 ) with 1" finished patches, and if you allowed .5 inch seam allowance instead of .25 inch (to allow for paper piecing), you would be using 2"x2" unfinished patches, and you would need over 16 yards of fabric. I am figuring that you would be able to use 40" of fabric width, but there's usually some waste there, as well as some waste when straightening the fabric for the first cut. Different sizes and shapes of patches make it really hard to figure, so this is just a simple example.

In addition, this is a complicated pattern, and I for one would have some mistakes that would result in more fabric not being usable. Then you would still need binding. Altogether I wouldn't be too surprized if the answer is really 20 yards.

littlehud 05-04-2009 06:48 PM

Looks like a beautiful quilt. I'm no good at figuring out how much fabric though. Hope you find your answer.

tlrnhi 05-04-2009 09:15 PM

Elle, that is going to be one gorgeous quilt!
And I am surprised too, they didn't specify. Strange.
Can't wait to see it all done, then you can send it to me! lol
Oh no! You can save the postage. I'll just take it home with me after I go to visit you. :) :) :)

Butterflyspain 05-04-2009 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by dunster
I agree with you, 20 yards would be a lot to devote to one quilt top. We don't really know for sure how much this pattern requires, since it hasn't told us. :(

That said, paper piecing does use more fabric than other patchwork. And pattern designers sometimes pad the fabric estimates so you don't run out. Most of us like to have leftovers for another project anyway.

It still seems like a lot, so I did some figuring... If you were to cover this quilt size ( 68x78 ) with 1" finished patches, and if you allowed .5 inch seam allowance instead of .25 inch (to allow for paper piecing), you would be using 2"x2" unfinished patches, and you would need over 16 yards of fabric. I am figuring that you would be able to use 40" of fabric width, but there's usually some waste there, as well as some waste when straightening the fabric for the first cut. Different sizes and shapes of patches make it really hard to figure, so this is just a simple example.

In addition, this is a complicated pattern, and I for one would have some mistakes that would result in more fabric not being usable. Then you would still need binding. Altogether I wouldn't be too surprized if the answer is really 20 yards.


Yipes Dunster, that is a lot, will have to remortgage the house for this one LOL However I have been collecting Asian fabrics for a while so I have a bit of a stash, but NOT that much.

I am keeping my fingers crossed that they come back to me today with the yardages.

Thank you for all your help.

Elle

Butterflyspain 05-04-2009 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by tlrnhi
Elle, that is going to be one gorgeous quilt!
And I am surprised too, they didn't specify. Strange.
Can't wait to see it all done, then you can send it to me! lol
Oh no! You can save the postage. I'll just take it home with me after I go to visit you. :) :) :)

NO no no, you canīt have this one this is for US. Not yet made a quilt for just us, I have given all the rest away. :(

Elle

tlrnhi 05-04-2009 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by Butterflyspain

Originally Posted by tlrnhi
Elle, that is going to be one gorgeous quilt!
And I am surprised too, they didn't specify. Strange.
Can't wait to see it all done, then you can send it to me! lol
Oh no! You can save the postage. I'll just take it home with me after I go to visit you. :) :) :)

NO no no, you canīt have this one this is for US. Not yet made a quilt for just us, I have given all the rest away. :(

Elle

You'll have PLENTY of time to make another one before I get there. You have about a year and a half. Sheesh! So, make this one for yourself, that way, you will know all the quirks of making it and then you can do mine! :) :)

sandpat 05-05-2009 03:43 AM

Hey Terri...pooor ole' Elle will be sooo worn out from the wedding and the making of THIS quilt that theres NO way she could get another made for you....you'll just have to settle for swiping this one when her back is turned...surely you thought of that!!! :wink:

Butterflyspain 05-05-2009 06:39 AM

Right I am off to the Locksmith to get a very large lock and if she want the key it will be round one of the dogs necks hee hee.

Elle

bearisgray 05-05-2009 06:54 AM

68 inches by 72 inches = 4896 inches
4896 inches divided by 144 inches = 34 square feet

144 square inches in a square foot (12 x 12)

I figure a yard of fabric - after washing - has about 35 x 40 square inches of usable fabric , which is 1400 square inches

35 x 42 = 1470

It looks like odd shapes that wouldn't cut very efficiently - and if you are using the paper piecing method - and want to fussy cut for design -

??

Butterflyspain 05-05-2009 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by bearisgray
68 inches by 72 inches = 4896 inches
4896 inches divided by 144 inches = 34 square feet

144 square inches in a square foot (12 x 12)

I figure a yard of fabric - after washing - has about 35 x 40 square inches of usable fabric , which is 1400 square inches

35 x 42 = 1470

It looks like odd shapes that wouldn't cut very efficiently - and if you are using the paper piecing method - and want to fussy cut for design -

??

Thank you so much Bearisgray for all your hard work.

I have written to the company that distributes the pattern to tell me the yardage required. If they donīt then I will have to wait till the pattern gets here.

You know when you get the urge to get all your fabrics together and you canīt, well I am miffed, however patience Elle patience :D

bearisgray 05-05-2009 07:07 AM

I though you already had the pattern and the amounts weren't listed in the instructions.

Then I would have been REALLY upset with the pattern.

I can relate with wanting to get the show on the road before the pattern arrives.

How long does it take for items to reach you via mail (on average) from various locations?



omak 05-05-2009 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by bearisgray
68 inches by 72 inches = 4896 inches
4896 inches divided by 144 inches = 34 square feet

144 square inches in a square foot (12 x 12)

I figure a yard of fabric - after washing - has about 35 x 40 square inches of usable fabric , which is 1400 square inches

35 x 42 = 1470

It looks like odd shapes that wouldn't cut very efficiently - and if you are using the paper piecing method - and want to fussy cut for design -

??

I LOVE math! The actual size of the quilt is 68 x 78 which equals 5304 square inches.
5304 divided by 144 equals 36 square feet, with a remainder of 120, maybe 7/8 ths of a yard?
so, then I took the square inches in a fat quarter = 396 sq inches x 20 (if the ten light/ten dark figures are fat quarters) x 20 = 7920 square inches which works out to - - hmmm... 55 square feet ...

that looks like it would be enough to make the quilt and then some! But, we know that is where scraps come from, so more is good, right? <g>
I have to know if my math is correct! <g> The square foot thing eluded me in my first post ... thanks bearis gray for filling that part in!

bearisgray 05-05-2009 07:29 AM

need to remember to add for all those seam allowances

oops - didn't read carefully for the finished size

omak 05-05-2009 07:33 AM

seam allowances??? what seam allowances?

LOL I didn't quite understand the square inches of the washed fabric ... my figures were trying to see if the ten/ten were fat quarters or which.
Were you figuring out straight yards?

bearisgray 05-05-2009 07:50 AM

Square inches of washed fabric:

Suppose I get a piece of fabric from the quilt shop and it measures EXACTLY 36 inches long by 42 inches wide.

I wash all my fabrics before cutting. Some people don't, but I KNOW that my finished quilts will need to be washed again at some point if they are used - which I hope they will be.

I've found that most pieces of cotton fabric shrink some when washed. Sometimes lengthwise, sometimes crosswise. I overcast the ends of the fabric before washing to minimize raveling.

If the fabric was off-grain , I could lose some more inches if I cut fabric from selvage to selvage. If the crosswise fabric grain was straight, maybe only a 1/2 inch or so due to raveling.

So, after I might lose some area due to shrinkage, raveling, being off grain, and the selvages, I maybe have 34 x 40 inches of usable fabric.

Some pattern makers seem to be very close in their fabric needs and others seem to allow for "extra."

Bottom line: I don't think I answered your question as to how much fabric you need for that quilt.

Good luck with it.

user3587 05-05-2009 09:28 AM

Butterflyspain I have done a couple of Judy's patterns and on the very back page it has shown the yardage. Have you checked her website?

Butterflyspain 05-05-2009 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by bearisgray
I though you already had the pattern and the amounts weren't listed in the instructions.

Then I would have been REALLY upset with the pattern.

I can relate with wanting to get the show on the road before the pattern arrives.

How long does it take for items to reach you via mail (on average) from various locations?


Usually 2 weeks from America. Guess I will have to wait they still have not got back to me. Anyway I am very grateful to everyone who has helped me.

Elle

Butterflyspain 05-05-2009 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by okie
Butterflyspain I have done a couple of Judy's patterns and on the very back page it has shown the yardage. Have you checked her website?

Oke, Have bought pattern from web but has not arrived yet. The site stated 10 Lights and 10 darks and I just wanted to get going with choosing fabrics, I have checked the website and there are no yardages, but some of the girls have come up with some very good maths on this on.

Elle

Butterflyspain 05-05-2009 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by omak

Originally Posted by bearisgray
68 inches by 72 inches = 4896 inches
4896 inches divided by 144 inches = 34 square feet

144 square inches in a square foot (12 x 12)

I figure a yard of fabric - after washing - has about 35 x 40 square inches of usable fabric , which is 1400 square inches

35 x 42 = 1470

It looks like odd shapes that wouldn't cut very efficiently - and if you are using the paper piecing method - and want to fussy cut for design -

??

Omak I take my hat of to you and Bearigrey, you just have stunned me with how you work out the fabrics you need.

Having looked at the design again and again, I think some of the fabrics will have to follow the grain so that will account for some wastage.

Think we are all agreed I need fat quarters though.
:D
Love ya all for helping me

Elle

I LOVE math! The actual size of the quilt is 68 x 78 which equals 5304 square inches.
5304 divided by 144 equals 36 square feet, with a remainder of 120, maybe 7/8 ths of a yard?
so, then I took the square inches in a fat quarter = 396 sq inches x 20 (if the ten light/ten dark figures are fat quarters) x 20 = 7920 square inches which works out to - - hmmm... 55 square feet ...

that looks like it would be enough to make the quilt and then some! But, we know that is where scraps come from, so more is good, right? <g>
I have to know if my math is correct! <g> The square foot thing eluded me in my first post ... thanks bearis gray for filling that part in!


Butterflyspain 05-05-2009 10:37 AM

I am sure your maths are correct.

I am giving you 100/100 for that one (g)

Me I hate maths and always have. :(


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