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leatheflea 08-12-2011 10:56 AM

I've been strip piecing for about an 2 hours and on my last 10 pieces my brother innov'is will all of the sudden will go from a 2.5 stitch to about a 1.0. I shut it off and reset and it will sew fine for a piece or two and does it again, the settings still say 2.5 but these are micro stitches. I thought maybe I had to much bunched up behind the machine, but it did the same when cleared away. So can you sew to much, too long?


Next question. I'm working on a black and white quilt. Black on whites, whites on black. Small to medium print, rectange in a rectangle block. what color thread should I use to quilt it? I normally try to match the color of the background, but with this quilt the background is night and day. So whats your suggestions? What have you used? Do you have any pic of it?

Thanks in advance!

PaperPrincess 08-12-2011 10:59 AM

It's possible, but overheating shouldn't happen after just 2 hours.

Can you add a color to your b&w quilt? I would go with red or a multicolor varigated.

MTS 08-12-2011 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by PaperPrincess
Can you add a color to your b&w quilt? I would go with red or a multicolor varigated.

I always use a Primary or Brights variegated. Or lime green.

kathyd 08-12-2011 11:14 AM

Last summer when I had my Viking in for servicing, the feed dogs needed to be replaced. Basically they had worn down and weren't able to grip the fabric, all my stitches were the same length no matter the setting. My machine was 12 years old at the time! It now works fine.
Is there a varigated thread that maybe goes from black to white? I don't do machine quilting but is this an option?
kathyd

amma 08-12-2011 11:16 AM

There are black and white varigated threads if you want to stick to the black and white theme. You can also quilt part with black and part with white too :D:D:D

MaryStoaks 08-12-2011 11:19 AM

I used black thread on one black & white quilt, the black thread about drove me nuts trying to focus on what I was stitching. It looked great when finished, I do prefer the black to white but the rest of my black & whites were quilted in white thread because my old brain doesn't want to focus on the black thread. :thumbup:

scraphq 08-12-2011 11:35 AM

Your sewing machine problem may be in the foot control, if that is what you use. Had the same problem with a Singer when I sewed long and steady. The control got hot and the machine wouldn't run. Just a suggestion, I'm no expert.

leatheflea 08-12-2011 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by kathyd
Last summer when I had my Viking in for servicing, the feed dogs needed to be replaced. Basically they had worn down and weren't able to grip the fabric, all my stitches were the same length no matter the setting. My machine was 12 years old at the time! It now works fine.
Is there a varigated thread that maybe goes from black to white? I don't do machine quilting but is this an option?
kathyd

My machine is less than 6 months old! oh gosh I hope I haven't worn it out that quickly!

leatheflea 08-12-2011 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by amma
There are black and white varigated threads if you want to stick to the black and white theme. You can also quilt part with black and part with white too :D:D:D

Oh gosh I was hoping to do a free motion all over design, now you just caused another decision. I could do a custom quilt in each block.....? Oh no, more decisions.

Feathers-N-Fur 08-12-2011 12:24 PM

Is it still under warranty? I use my Brother much longer than 2 hours with out problems.

leatheflea 08-12-2011 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by MaryStoaks
I used black thread on one black & white quilt, the black thread about drove me nuts trying to focus on what I was stitching. It looked great when finished, I do prefer the black to white but the rest of my black & whites were quilted in white thread because my old brain doesn't want to focus on the black thread. :thumbup:

The quilt is very busy, its hard to stay focused, I had a horrible time cutting and piecing. So maybe I should stay with the white?

mhansen6 08-12-2011 12:32 PM

Oh my Pfaff did that just before it started smoking. I had burnt out the motor. Nothing that can be done, it went into the recyle bin at work.

EasyPeezy 08-12-2011 12:52 PM

Did you clean the bobbin area?

susie-susie-susie 08-12-2011 01:03 PM

The only problem with varigated black and white is, what do you do the ensure that the changes occur on the same places as they change on the quilt. That would look pretty if the black on the thread and the white on the quilt were coordinated. Just a thought. I think the white thread would show up more than the black on black.
Sue

leatheflea 08-12-2011 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by mhansen6
Oh my Pfaff did that just before it started smoking. I had burnt out the motor. Nothing that can be done, it went into the recyle bin at work.

Well lets hope not but if so its still under warranty! thank goodness, I just hate taking my machines into the shop. Letting her cool down to see if that helps.

MrsGuava 08-12-2011 01:23 PM

Have you oiled it? Read your book.

jaciqltznok 08-12-2011 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by leatheflea

Originally Posted by mhansen6
Oh my Pfaff did that just before it started smoking. I had burnt out the motor. Nothing that can be done, it went into the recyle bin at work.

Well lets hope not but if so its still under warranty! thank goodness, I just hate taking my machines into the shop. Letting her cool down to see if that helps.

just in case..check all of your connections...the power cord and foot cord...My Elna did this one and it turned out that the foot pedal connection was not in all the way! It must have vibrated out while I was FMQing..hehehe

mhansen6 08-12-2011 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by leatheflea

Originally Posted by mhansen6
Oh my Pfaff did that just before it started smoking. I had burnt out the motor. Nothing that can be done, it went into the recyle bin at work.

Well lets hope not but if so its still under warranty! thank goodness, I just hate taking my machines into the shop. Letting her cool down to see if that helps.

My Pfaff was 25 years old and had been used ALOT!

leatheflea 08-12-2011 02:35 PM

Well I'll be a monkeys uncle! You arent going to believe this, it was the top thread. Its coats and clark, it has frays in it!. This is the 3rd one of these I've gotten in a year. I've use this stuff for years and have never had the problems I've had in the last year. Its the quilting thread I use to for piecing because its heavier more durable. Thats it! They are getting an e-mail from me. Quality control must not be top of the list. Thanks to all of you for your advice on the machine. Still not sure what thread I'll be quilting with. I called the local shop where I get my quilting thread and they said they have a varegated silver and black, green and yellow, orange pink and yellow. We'll see.

Monika 08-12-2011 02:44 PM

I have made a couple of black and white quilts. One I had trouble with trying to use a black to white variegated thread, I actually cut the quilting out. I couldn't see where I was going. The other I used a gray variegated and it worked out really well.

jaciqltznok 08-12-2011 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by leatheflea
Well I'll be a monkeys uncle! You arent going to believe this, it was the top thread. Its coats and clark, it has frays in it!. This is the 3rd one of these I've gotten in a year. I've use this stuff for years and have never had the problems I've had in the last year. Its the quilting thread I use to for piecing because its heavier more durable. Thats it! They are getting an e-mail from me. Quality control must not be top of the list. Thanks to all of you for your advice on the machine. Still not sure what thread I'll be quilting with. I called the local shop where I get my quilting thread and they said they have a varegated silver and black, green and yellow, orange pink and yellow. We'll see.

I believe it...newer machines HATE C&C thread....wow...so glad you solved it without a BIG repairman bill...whew....

sewtruterry 08-13-2011 04:23 AM

When was the last time you cleaned the machine. It may be that there is too much lint in the bobbin area and causeing the feed teeth to mess up. I have seen people that have never cleaned the bobbin case area have the same problem. Also if it has been a while since it was last serviced or has never been serviced it is time to do so.

ywoodruff5 08-13-2011 05:11 AM

Don't know what size quilt your are talking about and don't know if you want to do this but.......and please no quilt police arresting me.....I always use black in some way in all my quilts - even if it is just the label - it is my "signature." And since I do a lot of art quilts I have used the white in your instance and then used a sharpie permanent marker to go over the white threads on the black. :oops:

Happy Linda 08-13-2011 06:20 AM

Try taking the needle plate off and clean under it. Otherwise I'd take it in to be serviced. Calibration seems to be off.

New knee 08-13-2011 06:44 AM

I had a log cabin quilt made with blacks on white, and whites on black prints. I quilted it with grey thread and it looks great.

BeckyL 08-13-2011 07:08 AM

Maybe you just need to thoroughly clean the bobbin area, removing the bobbin casing and cleaning with a brush. Then rethread the bobbin and from the top, retread to your needle as well. It seems whenever I have an issue, if I just stop and clean EVERYTHING it makes such a difference.


Just read your notice re: Coats and Clark. I have found it frays and also creates so much more lint than anything else. I no longer use it.

Marysewfun 08-13-2011 07:19 AM

I didn't have a machine overheat - but I had one start sewing BACKWARDS! Called the shop and they said to pull the plug out of the wall, let it sit for a few minutes and plug it in again - worked fine. Said something about it being polarized.

Marysewfun

Bjbaxter 08-13-2011 07:22 AM

Well, I am having the same issue with my Bernina, I am still able to use it, but have to reach under the feed dogs and push them up into place. I just have some quilts I need to finish for a show, so don't have time to take it in since they will probably need to have it for a while.

Quilting Angel 08-13-2011 07:33 AM

I'm not sure about what is going on with your machine, but I hope there is a simple solution. As for the quilt, maybe use a gray to quilt with.

ShirlinAZ 08-13-2011 07:43 AM

You might try questioning Brother on their customer service web page. Or check with your Brother dealer about the machine.

Rather than a black/white variegated thread, how about a grey variegated. Aurifil makes a gorgeous variegated grey with very subtle changes from a silver to a charcoal.

DanaNVa 08-13-2011 08:36 AM

Take it back. It should be under warranty. Sounds like there's a glitch in the electronics. Should be a free fix or a replacement macihne. Don't take "no" or "something you did" for a answer. Corporate customer rlations would be my second "go to" place after the dealer.

Willa 08-13-2011 08:45 AM

How does gray look on it?

penski 08-13-2011 09:26 AM

in my machine manual it says it can overheat with excessive use !!

MargeD 08-13-2011 10:07 AM

Well, yes you can over heat a sewing machine. I had been doing a lot of sewing on my Kenmore, which I'd had for some time, when suddenly there was actual smoke coming out of the sewing machine. Well, I guess I sewed too much for the poor thing, and I had to toss it. I guess someone could have put in another motor, but I opted for a new machine. My girlfriend has the exact same machine and hers is still going strong, but she doesn't do nearly the amount of sewing that I do.

jdk151 08-13-2011 03:27 PM

I had the same problem, I cleaned out botten case and rethreaded the machine and bobbin....was fine after that!

brushandthimble 08-13-2011 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by leatheflea
Next question. I'm working on a black and white quilt. Black on whites, whites on black. Small to medium print, rectange in a rectangle block. what color thread should I use to quilt it? I normally try to match the color of the background, but with this quilt the background is night and day. So whats your suggestions? What have you used? Do you have any pic of it?

I quilted one with YLI, varigated white to gray to black. worked very nice.

Thanks in advance!


Iamquilter 08-13-2011 03:38 PM

Have you got your machine plugged into a strip where other things are plugged in especially your iron. My machine died down and discovered everytime my iron heated up the machine would die down , slow up so plugged it into a different power strip and have no more problems.

GG 08-13-2011 04:59 PM

I HAD THAT HAPPEN AND HE FEED DOGS WHERE FULL OF LINT AN NEEDED A GOOD CLEANING . BUT I WOULD NOT THANK ONE THAT NEW WOULD NEW CLEANED YET.

SunlitenSmiles 08-13-2011 06:25 PM

King Tut (Superior Thread) quilts beautifully and there is a verigated black that is awsome.
About the machine - try a brand new needle(topstitch or metallic) and yes, be sure to clean feed dogs and bobbin case area.

leatheflea 08-13-2011 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by Marysewfun
I didn't have a machine overheat - but I had one start sewing BACKWARDS! Called the shop and they said to pull the plug out of the wall, let it sit for a few minutes and plug it in again - worked fine. Said something about it being polarized.

Marysewfun

That would send me screaming out of the room thinking my machine was possessed!


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