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MartinsburgQuilter 08-09-2011 06:47 AM

I was reading through the list of classes that are being offered at the sewingexpo in october this year, and I read about using a double eye sewing machine needle...has anyone used these needles in their machinie? I would love to see some pictures or read some comments about your experience. I cannot imagine trying to thread these new needles..

sahm4605 08-09-2011 06:52 AM

It sounds like a painful thing. I never knew that a double eye needle existed.

kathy 08-09-2011 06:59 AM

never heard of it, i've used two threads before but only one eye :shock:
eta, and i've used a double needle

virtualbernie 08-09-2011 07:07 AM

They usually send at least one "double needle" sample in the newer machines. (At least all the ones I've bought) You can get them at any store that sells regular machine needles. They also send an extra spool pin for the second spool of thread with threading directions.

MartinsburgQuilter 08-09-2011 07:07 AM

well, I guess I had better take the class...I am sooooo curious! I love new sewing techniques and gadgets!

MartinsburgQuilter 08-09-2011 07:08 AM

After reading about them I immediately went online, but I cannot figure out why you would use it, or how it would look on the material.

shnnn 08-09-2011 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by MartinsburgQuilter
After reading about them I immediately went online, but I cannot figure out why you would use it, or how it would look on the material.

http://schmetzneedles.blogspot.com/2...-dare-you.html

It looks interesting..

Lacelady 08-09-2011 08:07 AM

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Ah, now I see what they are getting at. I've done exactly the same thing, but putting both threads through the same eye. You do need a larger eyed needle to allow for the two thicknesses of thread and I always make sure that the spools are going in opposite directions on the top of my machine, so they don't get tangled up. After that, go fairly slowly.

One thread in the needle on left, two on the right.
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shnnn 08-09-2011 08:10 AM

I'm intrigued by this... may have to try it :D I understand the thread coming off in opposite directions, but what about the rest of the threading? no issues running 2 threads through the tensioner etc?

sewmuchmore 08-09-2011 08:16 AM

That is cool, love the look ;)

Prism99 08-09-2011 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by shnnn
I'm intrigued by this... may have to try it :D I understand the thread coming off in opposite directions, but what about the rest of the threading? no issues running 2 threads through the tensioner etc?

I've run two threads through; never a problem with the tensioner or anything else. Just treat the two threads as if they were one when threading the machine.

shnnn 08-09-2011 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Prism99

Originally Posted by shnnn
I'm intrigued by this... may have to try it :D I understand the thread coming off in opposite directions, but what about the rest of the threading? no issues running 2 threads through the tensioner etc?

I've run two threads through; never a problem with the tensioner or anything else. Just treat the two threads as if they were one when threading the machine.

:thumbup: Thank you! I see what's in store for my afternoon :)

Prism99 08-09-2011 08:44 AM

Oh, I should mention that you need to loosen the upper tension. It's as if you are using a thicker thread!

I used this method for machine applique with black thread, to make the stitches look heavier (as if done by hand with embroidery thread). However, you can get the same effect just by using a thicker thread on top.

greensleeves 08-09-2011 09:58 AM

Can't wait to try this with the blanket stitch for applique.

amma 08-09-2011 10:14 AM

It is fun to use two different colored threads too :D:D:D

I would be afraid that a double eyed needle wouldn't be as strong as a single eyed. This could be problematic in the quilting process more so than on single layers of fabric.
I would however like more info on it as I am very curious about them now :D:D:D

Ripped on Scotch 08-09-2011 11:02 AM

I've done it but never as the quilting... the back is messy in my opinion. it is all zig zag and not always pretty.

annthreecats 08-09-2011 11:10 AM

Never thought of threading the machine with two threads. Just learned something new.

Prism99 08-09-2011 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by Ripped on Scotch
I've done it but never as the quilting... the back is messy in my opinion. it is all zig zag and not always pretty.

Just to clarify:

The zigzag on the back is with a double needle (2 needles on one shaft). I think the OP was talking about a single needle with 2 eyes (which I have never seen; does this make the zigzag on the back too?).

What I was describing was simply treating 2 threads as one in a single eye (regular) needle. This makes just a regular stitch (no zigzag on back) but with a heavier layer of thread on top.

Lostn51 08-09-2011 08:05 PM

The only problem I see with the double holed needle is will the hook assembly be able to grab the second thread? On a double needle it will because the threads are at the same depth as it normally would be if using a regular needle.

Billy

Peckish 08-09-2011 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by shnnn

Originally Posted by MartinsburgQuilter
After reading about them I immediately went online, but I cannot figure out why you would use it, or how it would look on the material.

http://schmetzneedles.blogspot.com/2...-dare-you.html

It looks interesting..

It DOES look interesting... although I wish they had used solid fabrics for the example, with contrasting thread. I'm having a hard time seeing exactly what the effect ends up being.

shnnn 08-09-2011 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by Lostn51
The only problem I see with the double holed needle is will the hook assembly be able to grab the second thread? On a double needle it will because the threads are at the same depth as it normally would be if using a regular needle.

Billy

guess we'll have to try it! :D

jeanneb52 08-10-2011 03:13 AM

Wow I have to try this!

Steady Stiching 08-10-2011 04:08 AM

I use Sewers Aid when I use my twin needle (two needles one shaft) just to make sure there is no mixing it up with the threads in the tension disks.
Wouldn't using one thick thread (embroidery floss)be better than two threads in one eye?

shnnn 08-10-2011 04:19 AM


Originally Posted by Steady Stiching
I use Sewers Aid when I use my twin needle (two needles one shaft) just to make sure there is no mixing it up with the threads in the tension disks.
Wouldn't using one thick thread (embroidery floss)be better than two threads in one eye?

unless you were using 2 different colors maybe

romanojg 08-10-2011 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by shnnn
I'm intrigued by this... may have to try it :D I understand the thread coming off in opposite directions, but what about the rest of the threading? no issues running 2 threads through the tensioner etc?

It would be the same as when you use a double or tripple needle; they share the same tension and split off at the needles. If your machine uses double needles check your manual for threading;most machines use them now

Babs194068 08-10-2011 04:46 AM

Schmetz makes it for decorative sewing and thread

Sorry didn't see other post.

lenette 08-10-2011 05:10 AM

It does look interesting, but I don't know if I want to have to rip out two threads at a time when I need to.:)

jitkaau 08-10-2011 05:38 AM

You get a thicker, smoother effect without bunching,twisting or entanglement.The only problem I have seen is that one of the threads can snap if the tension is not correct but this happens with whatever needle you are sewing with.

Cassews 08-10-2011 05:39 AM

hmmm.. I may have to invest in this, might be a good way to stitch in the ditch for the quilts I make for the grands when they want 2 colors, instead of doing it over again. hmmm .. interesting for sure

Happy Linda 08-10-2011 06:25 AM

Wow, you ladies are so interesting.

ShirlinAZ 08-10-2011 06:50 AM

I like the look of it. Guess I need to buy a double eye needle so I can try it.

janetter 08-10-2011 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by sahm4605
It sounds like a painful thing. I never knew that a double eye needle existed.

ditto

janetter 08-10-2011 07:56 AM

Thanks for the pic Laceylady, it makes much more sense now LOL

dphelps 08-10-2011 08:29 AM

Looks pretty cool. Cannot wait to see what you make in your class.

patty04 08-10-2011 08:52 AM

I love that look I will try to get a double needle, I never heard of that before, thanks

stormatsea45 08-10-2011 08:59 AM

Yes, I've used them on my DSM with great success. You can use them with decorative stitches, just be sure not to set the stitches wider than the clearances of the throat plate opening. It really does make wonderful embellishments on garments, pillows, and I even did free motion quilting with decorative thread. The needles come in different sizes, as well as the spacing between the needles. The back side of the fabric has a sort of zig-zag, or ladder look because of only a single bobbin thread connecting with the two threads in the needles.
I haven't figured out how to upload pictures to show you any of my work, sorry. :oops:

Iamquilter 08-10-2011 09:12 AM

The only doulbe eyed needle I have heard of is for the knitting machine to move stitches from the ribber to the main bed.

Dretha 08-10-2011 10:11 AM

My mom has to use double eye needle in her quilting machine. She likes it fine and they last her a long time. She does a lot of quilting. Hope this helps.

oldcottontop 08-10-2011 10:27 AM

I got one of those with my machine but have not tried it. Gonna have to see how it works.

shnnn 08-10-2011 10:42 AM

I ordered some this morning -- sighhh wont be here until friday, I wont be here until Tuesday - guess it will wait until next week


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