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nursie76 11-07-2010 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by SewOK
Some of the Gutterman thread is made in Germany and some of it (Hancock Fabrics) is made in Mexico. Check your spools to see where it is manufactured. The Gutterman made in Mexico is horrible, i.e., frays i the needle breaks, is full of lint) but the Gutterman made in Germany is of high quality and is great. Hancock Fabrics here in Oklahoma City carries the Gutterman made in Mexico and Jo-Ann Fabrics carries the Gutterman made in Germany.

Good to know...just checked, all mine was made in Germany.

judee0624 11-07-2010 07:01 PM

I have 2 Janomes and haven't had any problems with Gutterman. Is the clerk trying to get you to buy what they have?

judee

canuckninepatch 11-07-2010 07:04 PM

I use Gutterman a lot, and even use the Coats and Clark on my Janome 6600, and find they both work just fine for me.

Annz 11-07-2010 07:27 PM

I have not had a hard time with guttermann thread although I mostly use coats & clark or just coats.

Momsmurf 11-07-2010 08:48 PM

I use guttermann also without a problem. I get the large spool at 40% off with coupon.

Edogirl 11-07-2010 08:51 PM

I always use Gutterman on my Janome, which I buy in giant reels--black, off white and white--and use to sew everything. It gives me far less trouble than any other brand.

1Blondie 11-07-2010 09:15 PM

You might have just solved the clue. I use the Guttermann I buy at Joannes and that is the only fabric store around our area, since Walmart does not sell fabric here, fabric stroes are few and far between, We used to have a Hancock Fabric store, but they closed down and never reopened on on this side of town so you have to drive 30 minutes to get to one of them. Even some of the quilt stores have closed and they are far & betwenalso., but now that fall/winter is coming, quilt shows are happening and fabric comes right along with it,but so does the prices of the material an we all know they mark that stuff up.

liscarlm9326 11-07-2010 11:30 PM

Hi As far as I am concerned I will not use G anymore as it sheds fibres badly and it is not cheap It also breaks easily which it never used to. I use Isocord now as it is strong G It used to be good but not now Carmen

quilterella 11-08-2010 12:10 AM

Neither one of my Janomes like the Gutterman thread, they prefer Aurafill or Mettler. My 2 Brothers really don't care for Gutterman either...

hoenignana 11-08-2010 06:05 AM

For piecing now all I use is Aurafill it goes such a long way and is a very nice thread, I just wish we had a dealer in the area

FortMyers 11-08-2010 06:06 AM

I have never had any issues with Gutterman.

SewMamaw 11-08-2010 06:36 AM

I have a Husquvarna Viking and tried using Coats and Clark since we live 70 miles from a large town but my machine did not like it, had a problems. So ordered Gutermann online. Have never had a problem with it. It appears Coats and Clark has a coating on it that clogs up the works but Gutermann does not have.

joyce888 11-08-2010 07:30 AM

I bought the Pfaff Quilt Expression 4.0 machine and have so many problems with Guttermann thread. When I took my machine in for the umpteenth time over threading problems the dealer told me it was the thread and they don't recomend Guttermann. I buy all my Guttermann from JoAnns. Like many of you I've ended up running it off on bobbins when it doesn't seem to work on top.

Bev 11-08-2010 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by Candace

Originally Posted by Bev

Originally Posted by Candace
I was also told not to use Gutterman by my dealership, as it "supposedly" has gone way down in quality. But, I still use it with no problems. It's not as good as other thread on the market but in a pinch I will buy it and use it. My favorite thread is still Aurifil. And I use that whenever possible.

I remember my dealer told me if I was going to use Gutterman, to make sure it's the one made in Germany and NOT Mexico. He said there is a big difference in quality. I forgot to mention this in my last post. I've never had to search for it though because my Joann's only stocks the German one.

:wink:

How do you know it's the ones from Germany? What stores sell the ones from Mexico?

Look on the bottom of the spool. It says either Mexico or Germany. I don't know which stores stock the "Mexico" ones because I only buy mine when they are 40% off, or I have a coupon, at Joann's and as I said, they are from Germany. Someone, I think on this board, said it's ridiculous because the maker does the same quality of work, whether in Germany or Mexico. And he/she might be right, I don't know that either. But as long as it's so easy for me to get the Germany ones, I just go with them.

Bev 11-08-2010 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by martha jo
I was told by the Bernina dealer some time ago to not use Gutterman as it was trash and would not work well with Bernina.

I'm beginning to think that the dealers all have their own agenda when they hand out this kind of advice so assertively. They often contradict each other, too. :wink:

Hayquilting 11-08-2010 08:22 AM

Five years only use Gutermann, never a problem.

Candace 11-08-2010 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Bev

Originally Posted by Candace

Originally Posted by Bev

Originally Posted by Candace
I was also told not to use Gutterman by my dealership, as it "supposedly" has gone way down in quality. But, I still use it with no problems. It's not as good as other thread on the market but in a pinch I will buy it and use it. My favorite thread is still Aurifil. And I use that whenever possible.

I remember my dealer told me if I was going to use Gutterman, to make sure it's the one made in Germany and NOT Mexico. He said there is a big difference in quality. I forgot to mention this in my last post. I've never had to search for it though because my Joann's only stocks the German one.

:wink:

How do you know it's the ones from Germany? What stores sell the ones from Mexico?

Look on the bottom of the spool. It says either Mexico or Germany. I don't know which stores stock the "Mexico" ones because I only buy mine when they are 40% off, or I have a coupon, at Joann's and as I said, they are from Germany. Someone, I think on this board, said it's ridiculous because the maker does the same quality of work, whether in Germany or Mexico. And he/she might be right, I don't know that either. But as long as it's so easy for me to get the Germany ones, I just go with them.

All the Gutterman I have is from Joannes too. I don't know about the Mexico label though. I think all of them say made in Germany. I think legally a manufacturer can label the product if a certain percentage is made in the country. I'd like to hear if anyone has a Gutterman thread labeled made in Mexico.

I'd also love to see a photo of one of these Mexican made spools too. :thumbup:

dgsmom 11-08-2010 08:36 AM

i have a brother and mine makes better stitches when i use it.

Bev 11-08-2010 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Candace

Originally Posted by Bev

Originally Posted by Candace

Originally Posted by Bev

Originally Posted by Candace
I was also told not to use Gutterman by my dealership, as it "supposedly" has gone way down in quality. But, I still use it with no problems. It's not as good as other thread on the market but in a pinch I will buy it and use it. My favorite thread is still Aurifil. And I use that whenever possible.

I remember my dealer told me if I was going to use Gutterman, to make sure it's the one made in Germany and NOT Mexico. He said there is a big difference in quality. I forgot to mention this in my last post. I've never had to search for it though because my Joann's only stocks the German one.

:wink:

How do you know it's the ones from Germany? What stores sell the ones from Mexico?

Look on the bottom of the spool. It says either Mexico or Germany. I don't know which stores stock the "Mexico" ones because I only buy mine when they are 40% off, or I have a coupon, at Joann's and as I said, they are from Germany. Someone, I think on this board, said it's ridiculous because the maker does the same quality of work, whether in Germany or Mexico. And he/she might be right, I don't know that either. But as long as it's so easy for me to get the Germany ones, I just go with them.

All the Gutterman I have is from Joannes too. I don't know about the Mexico label though. I think all of them say made in Germany. I think legally a manufacturer can label the product if a certain percentage is made in the country. I'd like to hear if anyone has a Gutterman thread labeled made in Mexico.

I'd also love to see a photo of one of these Mexican made spools too. :thumbup:

I HAVE actually seen Mexico on a spool of Gutermann's at a shop, but I can't remember where or when. I remember saying to myself, "Hmmm, here's that Mexican Gutermann's." :)

Diannia 11-08-2010 01:59 PM

My Elna loves Gutermann for quilting. Other threads break. I sometimes use it for piecing and never have a problem with it there either.

Diannia

catrancher 11-08-2010 02:54 PM

I had (note, had) a Janome machine and it gave me nothing but trouble. I used Gutermann thread at the time and still do. Now I have a Bernina and it works fine Gutermann or no. I know a lot of people like their Janomes and I've only had one bare bones model, but I'd say it's a problem with the machine, not the thread.

All Thumbs 11-08-2010 06:26 PM

Wait a moment, fellow quilters......all of my Gutermann thread says Made In Greece.

I have no problem with any of my three Bernina's sewing with Gutermann, as long as I am piecing. When it comes to machine quilting or free motion quilting, I use The Bottom Line products. I have tried Coats-Clark and, while it leaves a great quilting track, it is quite messy to use. I have to vacuum the lint from spool area daily.

A1Lori 11-08-2010 06:35 PM

I didn't read all of the posts, but inow that it depends on the position of your spool holder on tha machine. If it is horizontal you are to use a thread wound horizontally (guterman), and if it is vertical, you should use a vertically wound (coats and clark)spool.It's how the machine draws in the thread that makes the difference.

wraez 11-08-2010 09:22 PM

I didn't know the reason why, but my Janome6500 doesn't like Gutterman either.

It likes Superior, Connecting Threads and others.

warm quilt hugs, sue in CA

yellowsnow55 11-09-2010 02:50 AM

Never had any problems with Gutermann on my Janome, but my Brother doesn't seem to like it so much.

susiequilt 11-09-2010 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by All Thumbs
Wait a moment, fellow quilters......all of my Gutermann thread says Made In Greece.

So does mine!
:-D

Bev 11-09-2010 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by All Thumbs
Wait a moment, fellow quilters......all of my Gutermann thread says Made In Greece.

I have no problem with any of my three Bernina's sewing with Gutermann, as long as I am piecing. When it comes to machine quilting or free motion quilting, I use The Bottom Line products. I have tried Coats-Clark and, while it leaves a great quilting track, it is quite messy to use. I have to vacuum the lint from spool area daily.

That's a new one. it seems the Gutermann people shop around for the least expensive deal on manufacturing their thread.

It also seems that our machines have different tastes when it comes to thread. Some have champagne tastes. Others settle for the beer taste. However Gutermann isn't a cheap thread, nor is it the most expensive. I'd say Aurifil is a more or less pricey thread. But since my machine seems to like Gutermann as well as Coats&Clark, I'll keep on using them. At the rate I use thread, what with quilting and sewing, I need to be a little thrifty where I can. I don't economize on the quality of my fabric though, unless I catch sales. We all have to shop around a little more than we used to, I think. ;-)

AmyBaby 11-09-2010 01:05 PM

My Bernina has an allergy to Cloaks and Clark. It does ok with Guttermann but it really enjoys Mettler. Funny I posted about this a while back on my blog because I'd just spent the better part of a weekend cussing at my machine..then I cleaned it change the thread brand and all was peaceful again.

Jamiestitcher62 11-09-2010 01:19 PM

I tend to use Mettler or Sulky. I was told that Coats and Clarks was old school and did not work well with newer machines. I hadn't heard that about Gutterman, I've used some, no problems with either the Janome 11000 or the 7700.

nursie76 11-09-2010 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by AmyBaby
My Bernina has an allergy to Cloaks and Clark. It does ok with Guttermann but it really enjoys Mettler. Funny I posted about this a while back on my blog because I'd just spent the better part of a weekend cussing at my machine..then I cleaned it change the thread brand and all was peaceful again.

As I said earlier, I use Guttermann all the time, but have on occasion used mettler. And, in a pinch have used C & C, and while the stitch isn't quite as nice, it has worked. But my go to is Guttermann. I guess it is all what our babies want (our machines ;) )

yellowsnow55 11-09-2010 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by All Thumbs
Wait a moment, fellow quilters......all of my Gutermann thread says Made In Greece.

I have no problem with any of my three Bernina's sewing with Gutermann, as long as I am piecing. When it comes to machine quilting or free motion quilting, I use The Bottom Line products. I have tried Coats-Clark and, while it leaves a great quilting track, it is quite messy to use. I have to vacuum the lint from spool area daily.

All my cotton ones say made in Greece and the polyester made in Germany. Don't believe I just spent nearly an hour checking them all, how on earth does one get any quilting in, glued to the laptop? :)

All Thumbs 11-09-2010 06:27 PM

How funny yellowsnow55. Yes, I too am spending way too much time here on the Board when Christmas presents are ready to be quilted and my charity fabrics waiting for cutting are stacked so high. But you may be on to something here. Cotton in Greece and polyester in Germany.

Bev 11-09-2010 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by All Thumbs
How funny yellowsnow55. Yes, I too am spending way too much time here on the Board when Christmas presents are ready to be quilted and my charity fabrics waiting for cutting are stacked so high. But you may be on to something here. Cotton in Greece and polyester in Germany.

What I think is ... that we're all a great bunch of detectives. Give us enough time and we could solve the mysteries of the great pyramids or Stone Henge. Nevermind the Loch Ness monster or Jack the Ripper. Those would be a piece of cake.
Scotland Yard needs us! :thumbup:

Bev 11-09-2010 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by All Thumbs
How funny yellowsnow55. Yes, I too am spending way too much time here on the Board when Christmas presents are ready to be quilted and my charity fabrics waiting for cutting are stacked so high. But you may be on to something here. Cotton in Greece and polyester in Germany.

But wait! Iforgot! What about Mexico???

Candace 11-09-2010 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by Bev

Originally Posted by All Thumbs
How funny yellowsnow55. Yes, I too am spending way too much time here on the Board when Christmas presents are ready to be quilted and my charity fabrics waiting for cutting are stacked so high. But you may be on to something here. Cotton in Greece and polyester in Germany.

But wait! Iforgot! What about Mexico???

LOL. My head is spinning.

Tink's Mom 11-09-2010 08:32 PM

I question this...guttermann thread is one of the better threads...What brand of thread does the LQS sell???I bet it is Mettler or one of the pricey ones...

Annaquilts 11-09-2010 08:40 PM

It seems the Gutterman is springy and thick. I'lll take Aurafill or Metzler anytime over Gutterman. Ill even take cheap Walmart Coats and Clark over Gutterman. That is what is on most of my machines.

judi wess 11-10-2010 04:28 AM

I am fast becomming a thread junkie! I use different threads for different projects. Auditioning a thread on a sample piece saves a lot of frustration. Note: If you can find "lingerie" thread, YLI, it is wonderful in the bobbin for Sulky Sliver. It has a little give and helps keep metalics from breaking. Am fond of Mettler silk finish.

Bev 11-10-2010 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Candace

Originally Posted by Bev

Originally Posted by All Thumbs
How funny yellowsnow55. Yes, I too am spending way too much time here on the Board when Christmas presents are ready to be quilted and my charity fabrics waiting for cutting are stacked so high. But you may be on to something here. Cotton in Greece and polyester in Germany.

But wait! I forgot! What about Mexico???

LOL. My head is spinning.

OK, here's the latest bulletin from my Joann's! I went over there today to get my scissors sharpened, and while I was cooling my heels waiting, I checked out the threads with my Sherlock Holmes magnifying glass, while no one was looking of course. I found that the Coats & Clarks are all labeled "Made in Mexico!!" That's news to me. And half of the Gutermann's was labeled Germany, while the other half was labeled GREECE!!!
THAT, also, is new. I asked an employee at Joann's what she knew about it and she looked at me as if I was crazy, which I'm beginning to think I am. She said she knew nothing at all about it and what difference did it make anyhow. At which point I slunk out of the store. So, that's it from this part of the country. 8-)

Bev 11-10-2010 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Bev

Originally Posted by All Thumbs
How funny yellowsnow55. Yes, I too am spending way too much time here on the Board when Christmas presents are ready to be quilted and my charity fabrics waiting for cutting are stacked so high. But you may be on to something here. Cotton in Greece and polyester in Germany.

But wait! I forgot! What about Mexico???



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