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MadQuilter 11-07-2010 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by AlwaysQuilting
I just bought a low end Janome for my DGDs Xmas present.
I asked if it likes or dislikes certain threads and the LQS owner said not to use Guttermann thread. She said it's put on the spool wet at the factory which makes it come off the spool with a tighter curve and doesn't feed through the machine as well.
Have any of you noticed this?

I took a class at our local dealer and the teacher said that when this happens to bring the spool back and get a replacement. She did say that it needs to be a full spool though - not a partially used one, lol. (Apparently some people get crafty)

It apparently is noticeable as soon as you start the spool and any reputable store should recognize the problem and replace the bad thread.

Dix 11-07-2010 11:41 AM

I have 2 Janomes and only use Aurifil on them. Does not break or tangle. I have the 6600 proff and the little Janome Silver. Love them both1

quilter on the eastern edge 11-07-2010 12:20 PM

I have never liked Gutermann thread. I just don't like the feel of it and what Nadine said about it being wound on the spool wet may be a possible explanation. I use Metzler (sp?) and have always had very good results.

danade 11-07-2010 12:20 PM

I occasionally use a Bernette 90e for some parts of my projects and it works really well--but has only a horizontal spool pin. Why is this, I wonder--how much more expenive could it be to construct these machines with a spoon pin that hinges vertically as well as horizontally? I doubt there is any answer to this. But does anybody have a recommendation for a thread stand?

I might add that oddly enough, my Juki 98Q hates Superior Thread of all weights. I had to give up on it and go back to C&C.

Dana

featherweight 11-07-2010 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by danade
I occasionally use a Bernette 90e for some parts of my projects and it works really well--but has only a horizontal spool pin. Why is this, I wonder--how much more expenive could it be to construct these machines with a spoon pin that hinges vertically as well as horizontally? I doubt there is any answer to this. But does anybody have a recommendation for a thread stand?

I might add that oddly enough, my Juki 98Q hates Superior Thread of all weights. I had to give up on it and go back to C&C.

Dana

I use the metal thread stand.

watterstide 11-07-2010 12:22 PM

i use all the time Guttermann, i have never had a problem with it..
i use it on my Janome 6600 and the Gem Platinum.

watterstide 11-07-2010 12:37 PM

Very true, and something i learned about a year ago..

http://www.superiorthreads.com/educa...them-different

cones and spools, the difference in the way they unwind,

there is a whole section on thread education. very good info!
there are a few short videos that are interesting to watch and learn!

Reguarding threads and thier costs..
if you calculated the cost per yard. the larger or costly spools or cones would actually not be as bad as you think.it is the initial cost that makes us not want to pay the amount .
i quit using C & C,because the price went up, and the spool or yardage got smaller..(the new dual duty) . they say it was too linty, but i clean my bobbin area after every small project, usually when i change the bobbin thread, i wipe it out,prior to putting in the new bobbin.
I think the fabric is way more linty than the threads. IMHO

Bev 11-07-2010 12:46 PM

I have two Janomes and use Gutterman's on both of them. I've never had even the slightest problem. I'm talking years of use, not just a few weeks. How the heck do people come up with these stories? If I were you, I'd just ignore it. Give your DGD a few spools of different good quality threads and let her decide which she likes best. 8-)

Bev 11-07-2010 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by Candace
I was also told not to use Gutterman by my dealership, as it "supposedly" has gone way down in quality. But, I still use it with no problems. It's not as good as other thread on the market but in a pinch I will buy it and use it. My favorite thread is still Aurifil. And I use that whenever possible.

I remember my dealer told me if I was going to use Gutterman, to make sure it's the one made in Germany and NOT Mexico. He said there is a big difference in quality. I forgot to mention this in my last post. I've never had to search for it though because my Joann's only stocks the German one.
:wink:

Candace 11-07-2010 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Bev

Originally Posted by Candace
I was also told not to use Gutterman by my dealership, as it "supposedly" has gone way down in quality. But, I still use it with no problems. It's not as good as other thread on the market but in a pinch I will buy it and use it. My favorite thread is still Aurifil. And I use that whenever possible.

I remember my dealer told me if I was going to use Gutterman, to make sure it's the one made in Germany and NOT Mexico. He said there is a big difference in quality. I forgot to mention this in my last post. I've never had to search for it though because my Joann's only stocks the German one.
:wink:

How do you know it's the ones from Germany? What stores sell the ones from Mexico?


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