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Nolee 03-31-2011 03:35 PM

I am ready to give up hst's forever. I did them the easy way on the tutorial by sewing them right sides together around all the edges, then precisely cutting on the diagonal twice and sewed them with a meticulous 1/4th inch seam and STILL they are off, STILL they are wonky. I thought I would just cut them a bit smaller with a template, but it gets stuck on the join of all four centers and moves all around and I can't cut accurately around it.

What in the world am I doing wrong? I have done them over and over and they just don't turn out the right size. Suggestions?

Airwick156 03-31-2011 03:44 PM

I have probably a couple hundred or more of them also that I cut the same way using that technique and I also have the same problem with them not coming out straight. So I just put them in a small clear plastic tote and am considering doing a PIF with them as I do not want to deal with them any longer.
I hope that you figure out what is happening soon. I know how frustrating that it is when you are wanting to make a quilt and more less are giving up because the pieces are not cooperating. So Good Luck and I am sure someone may have an answer soon.

Scissor Queen 03-31-2011 03:45 PM

I would never do them that way. You end up with bias edges on all the edges. Cut the squares bigger, draw the line down the center and sew a quarter inch away and then trim them down. The rule is to add 7/8ths of an inch but you can add an inch or even an inch and a quarter and the square them up to perfect.

Candace 03-31-2011 03:48 PM

I only do these using Triangulations software. No headaches, that way!

quilter1943 03-31-2011 03:48 PM

I always make them 1/2" larger than they say so I can trim them down. It's time consumng, but it's the only way to get them all accurate. Just have to take your time. Try a small pin wheel quilt for practice.

sandpat 03-31-2011 03:49 PM

IMHO...the way you are doing them is waaayyyy too much work. Just do them the way Scissor Queen suggested, sew a long chain of them, cut them apart, press, then trim them to size using your 45 diag. line on your small square ruler. I promise you....this works...I've made tons and tons of them this way. Good luck and do find a way to do it and still have fun, quilting is supposed to be FUN..not stressful or frustrating!

LAB55 03-31-2011 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
I would never do them that way. You end up with bias edges on all the edges. Cut the squares bigger, draw the line down the center and sew a quarter inch away and then trim them down. The rule is to add 7/8ths of an inch but you can add an inch or even an inch and a quarter and the square them up to perfect.

This is how I do them. Soooo much easier !! :-)

peaceandjoy 03-31-2011 03:59 PM

I just did a couple hundred of these using Triangulations. Printed them out on doodle pad paper (trimmed down to standard copy paper size) from the dollar store.

I did still have to trim them up a bit - but they are all perfect now!

QuiltedAngel 03-31-2011 04:01 PM

Quilt in a day has a half square triangle ruler, actually they have 2 a 6 1/2 and a 9 1/2 inch... It is worth a shot, she also has videos on her site and vimeo :) <3

cheryl rearick 03-31-2011 04:07 PM

I bought some stencils from a board member and can make 31 triangle squares at a time or just one. THEN I also bought a JUNE TAYLOR Half Triangle Square RULER.... (it is awesome) After using stencils I square up 100% with June Taylor. Works like a champ.... Never will I be without either one of these items again... So awesome.... If you want name of stencils let me know I will go look. NO WASTE.... NONE :)

peaceandjoy 03-31-2011 04:09 PM

Oops - I did quarter square triangles, not half squares. But if you buy the CD, both quarter square and half square are on it!

sueisallaboutquilts 03-31-2011 04:10 PM

So frustrating!! Been there. I like Scissor Queens way also :)

Marion Jean 03-31-2011 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
I would never do them that way. You end up with bias edges on all the edges. Cut the squares bigger, draw the line down the center and sew a quarter inch away and then trim them down. The rule is to add 7/8ths of an inch but you can add an inch or even an inch and a quarter and the square them up to perfect.

I always cut mine larger, too. They never seem to all come out the same - works better for me to just square them up afterward, even though it's an extra step.

grann of 6 03-31-2011 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Nolee
I am ready to give up hst's forever. I did them the easy way on the tutorial by sewing them right sides together around all the edges, then precisely cutting on the diagonal twice and sewed them with a meticulous 1/4th inch seam and STILL they are off, STILL they are wonky. I thought I would just cut them a bit smaller with a template, but it gets stuck on the join of all four centers and moves all around and I can't cut accurately around it.

What in the world am I doing wrong? I have done them over and over and they just don't turn out the right size. Suggestions?

I put little sticky pads on the bottom of my square ruler. It helps to keep it from slipping around and adds some depth to the outer parts so the cutting is easier. Did you starch your fabric first? Sure helps them to stay firm and less wonky.

lovestosew 03-31-2011 04:14 PM

I have the wonder cut ruler, and they come out perfect every time. You take two strips, sew them together on both long sides. Line up the ruler on one end, cut and you have a triangle. Then, turn the ruler, and cut again. I would not make them without this again.

TonnieLoree 03-31-2011 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Nolee
I am ready to give up hst's forever. I did them the easy way on the tutorial by sewing them right sides together around all the edges, then precisely cutting on the diagonal twice and sewed them with a meticulous 1/4th inch seam and STILL they are off, STILL they are wonky. I thought I would just cut them a bit smaller with a template, but it gets stuck on the join of all four centers and moves all around and I can't cut accurately around it.

What in the world am I doing wrong? I have done them over and over and they just don't turn out the right size. Suggestions?

Try this: http://www.blockcentral.com/hst/hst-2inch.pdf
Read the directions. These make finished 2" hst blocks.

Qbee 03-31-2011 04:18 PM

This is the only way I can do them.


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
I would never do them that way. You end up with bias edges on all the edges. Cut the squares bigger, draw the line down the center and sew a quarter inch away and then trim them down. The rule is to add 7/8ths of an inch but you can add an inch or even an inch and a quarter and the square them up to perfect.


auntmag 03-31-2011 04:31 PM

I use "Thangles", come out perfect every time.

Mo_Chride 03-31-2011 04:31 PM

I agree, I do HSTs not QSTs. So much easier.

Although, I was part of a HST exchange last year that was so easy. In just a few hours I made just over 1,100 HSTs from a pattern my LQS called Cinnamon sticks. It was so easy. I took a dark and a light, right sides together, stiched a "pattern" and cut them apart and in five minutes of sewing and five more minutes of cutting I had 28 HST. I did the pattern 40 times, brought it into my LQS for exchange and walked out a month later with 40 "sticks" or 1120 HSTs of every imaginable combination. I made my avatar quilt with them.

It took me longer to sit on the floor and arrange them all in a pleasing pattern than it did to sew the HSTs in the first place! I can scan in the "pattern" tomorrow if anyone is interested.

Tara

auntmag 03-31-2011 04:31 PM

I use "Thangles", come out perfect every time.

Qbee 03-31-2011 04:42 PM

Oh cool!! I'd LOVE to see that!


Originally Posted by Mo_Chride
I agree, I do HSTs not QSTs. So much easier.

Although, I was part of a HST exchange last year that was so easy. In just a few hours I made just over 1,100 HSTs from a pattern my LQS called Cinnamon sticks. It was so easy. I took a dark and a light, right sides together, stiched a "pattern" and cut them apart and in five minutes of sewing and five more minutes of cutting I had 28 HST. I did the pattern 40 times, brought it into my LQS for exchange and walked out a month later with 40 "sticks" or 1120 HSTs of every imaginable combination. I made my avatar quilt with them.

It took me longer to sit on the floor and arrange them all in a pleasing pattern than it did to sew the HSTs in the first place! I can scan in the "pattern" tomorrow if anyone is interested.

Tara


Deb watkins 03-31-2011 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Nolee
I am ready to give up hst's forever. I did them the easy way on the tutorial by sewing them right sides together around all the edges, then precisely cutting on the diagonal twice and sewed them with a meticulous 1/4th inch seam and STILL they are off, STILL they are wonky. I thought I would just cut them a bit smaller with a template, but it gets stuck on the join of all four centers and moves all around and I can't cut accurately around it.

What in the world am I doing wrong? I have done them over and over and they just don't turn out the right size. Suggestions?

Man, you are only about 2 hours away from me.......I could come up on a Saturday and we could cut HST all day long AFTER we hit the fabric stores!

suern3 03-31-2011 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by sandpat
IMHO...the way you are doing them is waaayyyy too much work. Just do them the way Scissor Queen suggested, sew a long chain of them, cut them apart, press, then trim them to size using your 45 diag. line on your small square ruler. I promise you....this works...I've made tons and tons of them this way. Good luck and do find a way to do it and still have fun, quilting is supposed to be FUN..not stressful or frustrating!

This is the way I do them, also. Haven't had problems so far. (knock on wood).

momcpo 03-31-2011 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by QuiltedAngel
Quilt in a day has a half square triangle ruler, actually they have 2 a 6 1/2 and a 9 1/2 inch... It is worth a shot, she also has videos on her site and vimeo :) <3

That is what I use also. WONDERFUL! Triangle Square-Up Ruler by Quilt in a Day.

pocoellie 03-31-2011 04:58 PM

Have you starched your fabrics before cutting? I prefer doing the squares 1" larger than the size of HST I want, sew diagonally, then cutting in half diagonally or if I have a lot to do, I make a grid. When doing it the way you have, you have to really be careful not to stretch because you're working with the bias .

okiepastor 03-31-2011 05:06 PM

``Anyone other than me biased against bias? :>)
MUCH easier to avoid the problem in the first place with Thangles or HST from strip sewing!!

jayelee 03-31-2011 05:16 PM

I do them the way Nolee does them but I always starch and iron before cutting It holds them together and keeps them from getting out of shape

LAB55 03-31-2011 05:17 PM

I do not like sewing bias seams, they get all wonky ! ;-)

KarenK 03-31-2011 05:18 PM

HST papers can also be printed from the following website: http://www.quiltingandwhatnot.ca/Hal...-Triangle.html

I buy scribble pads at the $ store - 60 sheets for $1. I use a paper cutter to trim the paper to 8.5" X 11" to fit my printer. So fast, easy and accurate!

craftyone27 03-31-2011 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Candace
I only do these using Triangulations software. No headaches, that way!

I have the same program and I just love it!!

b.zang 03-31-2011 05:29 PM

Buy this, you'll never regret it, from Bear Paw Productions. She's wonderful to deal with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z6o7Bh7MYg

TonnieLoree 03-31-2011 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by Mo_Chride
I agree, I do HSTs not QSTs. So much easier.

Although, I was part of a HST exchange last year that was so easy. In just a few hours I made just over 1,100 HSTs from a pattern my LQS called Cinnamon sticks. It was so easy. I took a dark and a light, right sides together, stiched a "pattern" and cut them apart and in five minutes of sewing and five more minutes of cutting I had 28 HST. I did the pattern 40 times, brought it into my LQS for exchange and walked out a month later with 40 "sticks" or 1120 HSTs of every imaginable combination. I made my avatar quilt with them.

It took me longer to sit on the floor and arrange them all in a pleasing pattern than it did to sew the HSTs in the first place! I can scan in the "pattern" tomorrow if anyone is interested.

Tara

I would appreciate that. Thanks for the offer.

Nolee 03-31-2011 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
I would never do them that way. You end up with bias edges on all the edges. Cut the squares bigger, draw the line down the center and sew a quarter inch away and then trim them down. The rule is to add 7/8ths of an inch but you can add an inch or even an inch and a quarter and the square them up to perfect.

Do you mean draw the line down the center on the diagonal like I first learned or down the center, top to bottom of the square? Then how do I "trim them down?" I can't picture it at all.

Kat Sews 03-31-2011 05:59 PM

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This is my favorite HST method. Makes 8 at a time and no bias edges.

thepolyparrot 03-31-2011 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by b.zang
Buy this, you'll never regret it, from Bear Paw Productions. She's wonderful to deal with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z6o7Bh7MYg

Yes, this is the Triangulations CD that others have mentioned - so much easier than any other method I've tried. The best price I've seen for it is $22 at Connecting Threads - it's worth it for the headaches it saves.

One of my current BOM projects is all HST's and if it weren't for Triangulations, I'd have pulled all my hair out the first month. And the blocks are drawn in 1/16" increments, so you should never lack for the exact size that you need.

HST's drive me crazy - for all the reasons you've run into and a few problems that I've created on my own. :mrgreen: But, they come out really nice this way - without even trimming them.

Nolee 03-31-2011 07:04 PM

Thank you, each and every one for your wonderful suggestions. I have tried one or two of the links you so kindly sent and I think I will do well. I'm going to look at all the rulers and software also. I truly appreciate your help and I hope I can help someone else in the future. I've avoided any quilt pattern with HST's for so long and now I just may try one with lots of them. My migraine has eased :) :)

Nolee


Originally Posted by thepolyparrot

Originally Posted by b.zang
Buy this, you'll never regret it, from Bear Paw Productions. She's wonderful to deal with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z6o7Bh7MYg

Yes, this is the Triangulations CD that others have mentioned - so much easier than any other method I've tried. The best price I've seen for it is $22 at Connecting Threads - it's worth it for the headaches it saves.

One of my current BOM projects is all HST's and if it weren't for Triangulations, I'd have pulled all my hair out the first month. And the blocks are drawn in 1/16" increments, so you should never lack for the exact size that you need.

HST's drive me crazy - for all the reasons you've run into and a few problems that I've created on my own. :mrgreen: But, they come out really nice this way - without even trimming them.


fabric whisperer 03-31-2011 07:34 PM

I tried that method of the "all around the four sides" and when my first row went together, it was really getting strange puckers that appeared out of nowhere... so I am back to the sew the diagonal first too ~ MUCH better!!! that way the bias is already sewn!

millivanillisask 03-31-2011 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Scissor Queen
I would never do them that way. You end up with bias edges on all the edges. Cut the squares bigger, draw the line down the center and sew a quarter inch away and then trim them down. The rule is to add 7/8ths of an inch but you can add an inch or even an inch and a quarter and the square them up to perfect.

THIS IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL WAY i DO THEM. :thumbup:

earthwalker 03-31-2011 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by suern3

Originally Posted by sandpat
IMHO...the way you are doing them is waaayyyy too much work. Just do them the way Scissor Queen suggested, sew a long chain of them, cut them apart, press, then trim them to size using your 45 diag. line on your small square ruler. I promise you....this works...I've made tons and tons of them this way. Good luck and do find a way to do it and still have fun, quilting is supposed to be FUN..not stressful or frustrating!

This is the way I do them, also. Haven't had problems so far. (knock on wood).

Me too...if it works for me it will work for anyone!

merry 03-31-2011 08:45 PM

THANGLES!


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