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Naturalmama 01-06-2011 11:28 PM

I want to put a narrow strip around the quilt before I add the larger border. So far it measures 49" x 41" and I used 5" charm squares (so the squares are now 4.5"). How wide should I make this inner border? And the outer border - I was thinking of making it the same width as a charm - sound ok?

Also, I was thinking of finishing it like another quilt I saw - not stitch in the ditch, but stitching just a bit next to the seams on either side. (So each square would be outlined in stitching). Would I need to use a walking foot for this? I have a generic one but I have no idea if it actually works or even how to use it. :oops:

mmonohon 01-06-2011 11:31 PM

I usually do a 2.5 inch strip. After being sewed it is 2 inches.

QM 01-06-2011 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by mmonohon
I usually do a 2.5 inch strip. After being sewed it is 2 inches.

That would work. I like 1 or 1.5" (cut 1.5 or 2) for the inner border. I like the idea of the outer border being the same as the charm squares.

craftyone27 01-06-2011 11:40 PM

I was thinking 1 1/2" or 2" as well for your inner border. If you are going to do a 4 1/2" outer border,I don't think I would want a finished inner border of any more than 2. Can't wait to see some pics of your quilt! I'm sure it will be great!

gale 01-06-2011 11:57 PM

I just made a small lap size top and used a 1" inner border with a 4" outer border.

lisalovesquilting 01-07-2011 02:18 AM

I am agreeing with the rest.

Sadiemae 01-07-2011 04:57 AM

Depending on the pattern of the quilt, I do anywhere from 1"-2 1/2". I like 1" or 1 1/2", but if I wanted the finsihed quilt a little larger I would make my borders larger.

Naturalmama 01-07-2011 05:42 AM

Ok good - I'll play with 1 to 1.5 and see which looks better. :)

How about the quilting part of it - do I need to figure out if the walking foot I have works or should I just try my regular foot? And does stitching next to the seams sound ok?

I'm so excited that I'm actually finishing a quilt! lol!

featherweight 01-07-2011 06:25 AM

It is your personal preference. I have used many different widths. Kind of depends on how much bigger I want the quilt and go from there!!

thepolyparrot 01-07-2011 06:33 AM

Try your walking foot on a practice swatch and make sure it works properly. You'll be able to tell by the fact that there won't be a pleat of extra fabric when you get to the end of a seam. :)

If you have to use a regular presser foot, try to use one that has the least amount of surface area touching the feed dogs. A vintage quilting foot is ideal - it's a very short foot. Then, adjust the pressure on the presser foot so that if you have your stitch length set to 10-12 stitches per inch, you get 10-12 stitches per inch on your quilt, and then ease off of that pressure very slightly. This helps keep the top from stretching quite so much.

Holice 01-07-2011 06:43 AM

it depends on what width will balance. A 2" sounds about right for me

And yes, a walking foot will give you better results.

sahm4605 01-07-2011 06:49 AM

do you have a pic of the top so far? I would also go with a 2" finished inner boarder and then a 4 1/2" finished outer boarder. but it really does depend on that the top actually looks like. let it speak to you and go with your gut.

quiltingaz 01-07-2011 06:54 AM

IMO I would use a 1-1.5 inch border. I find that a narrower border will set off the design of the quilt better.

Walking foot definitely. You will not be happy with regular foot as it will push the top fabric. You will get puckers. It is well worth investment to get a good walking foot. Generic can work just as well as long as it "walks".

sahm4605 01-07-2011 07:11 AM

just make sure that the walking foot also doesn't cut the fabric like a serger. I had one given to me and it was actually a presser foot that would cut the fabric as it sewed. and I couldn't do anything with it other than a zig zag stitch.

petpainter 01-07-2011 07:15 AM

I'm about to quilt my first wall hanging, so this is a good thread for me, too. So the areas where I'm going to stitch in the ditch, I need to definitely use my walking foot, then for the free motion stuff, just go back to the free motion foot? I have a clear foot to use for that.For stitching in the ditch, should I still start in the center and work out?

irishrose 01-07-2011 07:16 AM

I cut my 'frame' at 1 1/2 inches so it ends up one inch. The five inch for the outer sounds good.

sahm4605 01-07-2011 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by petpainter
I'm about to quilt my first wall hanging, so this is a good thread for me, too. So the areas where I'm going to stitch in the ditch, I need to definitely use my walking foot, then for the free motion stuff, just go back to the free motion foot? I have a clear foot to use for that.For stitching in the ditch, should I still start in the center and work out?

I always work from the center out. I just got a walking foot and darning foot(FMQ foot). With stitching in the ditch it just depends on the pattern. But yes starting in the "center" is always a good idea. It just depends on the pattern. if it is something like squares and you are just going lines in a cross hatch pattern then I would pick a side and start in the middle of the quilt on that side and go from there. if there is blocks in involved I would stitch the center block down and go from there. but it just depends on what the top looks like. hope this is clear as mud for you.

Naturalmama 01-07-2011 10:21 AM

I wish I could sit in a room with all of you! :)

tmg 01-08-2011 03:26 AM

It depends on the look you want. Just remember their is NO QUILT POLICE. So just have fun with it.

quilt3311 01-08-2011 05:29 AM

I would probably go with an inch finished (cut 1 1/2") or an inch and a half finished (cut 2") Then probably a 4" - 6" outer border.

quiltmom04 01-08-2011 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Naturalmama
I want to put a narrow strip around the quilt before I add the larger border. So far it measures 49" x 41" and I used 5" charm squares (so the squares are now 4.5"). How wide should I make this inner border? And the outer border - I was thinking of making it the same width as a charm - sound ok?

Also, I was thinking of finishing it like another quilt I saw - not stitch in the ditch, but stitching just a bit next to the seams on either side. (So each square would be outlined in stitching). Would I need to use a walking foot for this? I have a generic one but I have no idea if it actually works or even how to use it. :oops:

I would make the inner border about2" - 1 1/2" finished and make the outer border a bit larger than the blocks, say 6". It looks more interesting to have the measurements varied, just like it looks more interesting to have pattern size varied. And yes, a walking foot will make your stitching more even. If you have lost the directions for your foot, you can either look online, or your LQS should be able to help you.

bizzyquilter 01-08-2011 07:42 AM


Originally Posted by Naturalmama
I wish I could sit in a room with all of you! :)

Me too! :-D

prayerquilts 01-08-2011 07:52 AM

Another idea for quilting would be to sew diagonally from corner to corner making x's through the squares. You can start at one corner of the quilt and sew to the other end. You'll be able to quilt with fewer starts and stops. On some it even gives a look of lots of smaller triangles in the piecing. I don't have a walking foot and have had good luck, but the two I did had a backing with a lot of body in it and very little stretch.

GammaLou 01-08-2011 07:56 AM

For doing straight quilting a walking foot will help the fabric feed evenly. Otherwise it will pucker! Yes, start from the center and work out for best results. My last quilt was a king size and I did borders in 1", 3" and 6" to make it the size I wanted. The gradual increase looked great. Then the binding was 2.5" before sewing on and folding over. I think it finishes to about 1/2 to 3/4 when done. Have fun and post a picture of your finished quilt!!

G'ma Kay 01-08-2011 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Holice
it depends on what width will balance. A 2" sounds about right for me

And yes, a walking foot will give you better results.

I don't like to go any narrower than a 2 inch inner border, not all that confident in my skills, and I feel the narrower it is, the more obvious my crooked stitching will be.

IBQUILTIN 01-08-2011 01:44 PM

Any size you want to. Most of us use either 1 1/2 inch strips for a 1 inch(narrow) border, and some 2 1/2 inch for a 2 inch (just a bit wider) border, but its all up to you. lay your fabric under the edge and audition both to see which you like

Diane C. 01-08-2011 03:10 PM

I like making the outer border half or less of the squares and the inner border half of the outer border. Only works well with smaller blocks though. Diane C.

vickie1976 01-08-2011 05:04 PM

I would use a 1.5" which 1/3 the with of your squares, the border should be 3 that width, You are framing the quilt top so the inner strip is like a mat around a picture and the border is the frame.

ProudGranny5 01-08-2011 05:09 PM

I don't have an answer for you, but reading your thread I have learned quite a bit. That is why I love this QB! :P

madamekelly 01-08-2011 05:21 PM

Joanns sells 1/4 inch masking tape to use in outline quilting. Makes that outline stitch nice and easy to get straight.

madamekelly 01-08-2011 05:22 PM

Joanns sells 1/4 inch masking tape to use in outline quilting. Makes that outline stitch nice and easy to get straight. Just don't leave it on too long,(more than a day or two) and DO NOT iron over it! It will leave a permanent residue if you do.

postal packin' mama 01-08-2011 09:11 PM

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That's the beauty of being the quilt creator -- YOU are Queen of the Quilt -- whatever pleases your eyes. Enjoy.

grammysharon 01-08-2011 10:51 PM

I would suggest smaller is better. No more than 2" maybe even 1 1/2 to finish 1".

yellowsnow55 01-09-2011 01:42 AM

I sometimes do two inner borders 1" finished in a very dark and then a 1.5" finished, then the outer border. Don't always do borders though, some I like without any at all

petpainter 01-09-2011 07:12 AM

I went to sew on some four patch blocks on to my wall hanging anf thought I better use my walking foot- now this is my first quilt- but I read a lot, I tool off my 1/4" foot and realized I wouldn't have a guide, so I put a piece of tape exactly where the 1/4" would be. I started sewing away and got "motor overload" and my Viking diamond stopped. I finally switched back to the 1/4" foot and then realized I had put the tape over the feed dogs!! Okay I had my laugh, but really, with such a big foot, why don't they put a mark on the foot since it has to be so big and quilter are so anal? It came out well so fay anyway, and I am going to do some fancy freemotion stuff on it with the help of Patsy Thompsons DVD's. It's just for me, so it will be a practice piece, but I'm really looking forward to it. I'll post a pic when I'm done. I just had to give you all a laugh for the day!

Tweety2911 01-09-2011 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by craftyone27
I was thinking 1 1/2" or 2" as well for your inner border. If you are going to do a 4 1/2" outer border,I don't think I would want a finished inner border of any more than 2. Can't wait to see some pics of your quilt! I'm sure it will be great!

Same here
:)

Dani 01-09-2011 12:13 PM

I've read or heard that the borders should be divisable or multiple of your block size. i.e. If your block is 4-1/2" then your small border should be 2-1/4" ... or 4-1/2" or 6-3/4"????? Just a thought.

Yes, use your walking foot if you can.

MarthaT 01-09-2011 02:24 PM

I don't think anyone has mentioned this, since I just scanned the replys. But one thing I think about when deciding the width of my borders is also...how will I quilt it? I'm a hand quilter and have a number of border stencils. I sometimes adjust my border by a half inch or so to make it fit the border pattern I will quilt in it.

bigsister63 01-09-2011 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by madamekelly
Joanns sells 1/4 inch masking tape to use in outline quilting. Makes that outline stitch nice and easy to get straight.

You can get blue painter tape a Lowes/HD that comes in different widths from 1/4- 3 inh. This will give you straight lines of different widths. It comes up easily and leaves no residue. Also it can be used many times before stickness wears off. I am hooked on it. YES use a walking foot since it feeds the fabric evenly on top and bottom with no puckers.

ljs317 01-10-2011 06:52 AM

I usually always do a I inch border It shows off the blocks like a picture in a frame


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