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sherry mcd 09-11-2011 11:30 AM

I have not been happy with my Janome 7700--lots of annoying glitches, especially with the bobbin. Does anyone have the new Brother Laura Ashley Isadore? It looks and sews like a dream machine. Of course this is a trade in and up (more money). I am very tempted to do this trade. What can you all tell me about the Brother Isadore?

KarenR 09-11-2011 11:34 AM

I'm watching. Heard how good the Janome's are but it sounds like you got a lemon.

LyndaOH 09-11-2011 11:35 AM

Just curious, what kind of bobbins issues are you having? Maybe someone can help?

snipforfun 09-11-2011 11:44 AM

I think the 7700s are stIll too new to have all the bugs worked through.

jayelee 09-11-2011 12:05 PM

I dont know about the Janome but I now havw two Brothers and love them both almost more than my Vikings

hildie 09-11-2011 12:12 PM

I have a Brother Laura Ashley- love the machine- seems like you get alot more bang for your buck with Brother- the machine is wonderful- I also have a Brother innovis which I also love- I would not even think twice about buying another Brother machine

Maia B 09-11-2011 12:35 PM

The Isadore is also new, big $$$, and subject to new machine glitches. Why not deal with the problems on your Horizon and get the machine you paid for? Join the Horizon yahoo group, lots of info and support there. List and document the problems with your Horizon, and take it to your dealer. A lot of people have gotten fixes and even replacement machines.

QuiltnLady1 09-11-2011 12:41 PM

What are your bobbin issues?

CarolinePaj 09-11-2011 12:46 PM

I have the Janome 7700 and a Brother Innovis 4000d and I love both.

Hugs

Phannie1 09-11-2011 12:54 PM

I got a Brother laura Ashley Innovis 2000. I have really enjoyed it. I had replaced an 35 year old Singer. I looked at others but the money difference, I got the Brother.

woody 09-11-2011 01:17 PM

The Janome sews like a dream, worth getting the glitches sorted out. Sorry that yours isn't working the way it should.

Ruby the Quilter 09-11-2011 03:32 PM

I have a Janome -not yours - but keeping the bobbin area lint free is a must and making sure the thread is in the tension really good makes a world of difference.

mamaw 09-11-2011 05:07 PM

I haven't had any issues with the bobbin at all on my 7700, nor have I heard of any in the area. What is going on with it?

tjradj 09-11-2011 05:19 PM

I have the Janome 7700 and love it. But I do have to make sure I'm using good quality bobbins. I've tried some of the prewound ones that come on plastic bobbins and find that some of them just don't perform right.
You might also want to try the "Bobbin Genie" washers. I hear they help.

sherry mcd 09-11-2011 05:32 PM

The bobbins don't stay solidly in place like they should. They sort of bounce up and down. I do get the Error messages often. Then I remove the throat plate and clean the lint out. A real pain. I may have "new machine fever" because I also have "new car fever". Thanks.

bjnicholson 09-11-2011 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by tjradj
I have the Janome 7700 and love it. But I do have to make sure I'm using good quality bobbins. I've tried some of the prewound ones that come on plastic bobbins and find that some of them just don't perform right.
You might also want to try the "Bobbin Genie" washers. I hear they help.

This is what I use and it really helped a lot. No more snarls.

sherry mcd 09-11-2011 05:45 PM

I'll try this. Thank you,

Phannie1 09-11-2011 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by sherry mcd
The bobbins don't stay solidly in place like they should. They sort of bounce up and down. I do get the Error messages often. Then I remove the throat plate and clean the lint out. A real pain. I may have "new machine fever" because I also have "new car fever". Thanks.

I know with my Brother machine has special bobbins for the Brother machines. They are a little heavier than most. Maybe your machine has the same thing. I do not know.

It'sJustMe 09-12-2011 02:39 AM

I've noticed that Janome's class 66 bobbins are slightly taller than those made by Singer. And maybe prewounds too. Could be the source of the problem.

mimiknoxtaylor 09-12-2011 04:01 AM

Sherry, I have a Janome 9000 that I've had since they first came out. I love it for FMQ & even piecing. But I have a Babylock Esante that I got last year that I love! It was pricey even during a big promotion. Before I bought either one I visited local shops & took time to "play" on them in the store. Good luck

Dolphyngyrl 09-12-2011 04:01 AM

I love my brothers. Are you talking about the large one NX-2000 or the small one NX-8000. If your are talkign about the NX-2000 you are talking about the replacement for the QC-1000 and that machine is wonderful. I have the Espire which is esentially the same machine as it and have never had any problems with it. Have had it for 2 1/2 year and love it to pieces. If you are talking about the NX-800 which I assume replaces the NX-650Q, I have heard good things about that one, but you cant go wrong with either

sumcoop 09-12-2011 04:11 AM

I love my Brothers I have 5 and a serger. I have never had trouble with any...they are from Walmart cheap to the D4000.

Babs194068 09-12-2011 04:30 AM

I have the Janome and I love it. Will be a year in October. NO problems yet.

oma8355 09-12-2011 04:34 AM

I have had my Brother Innovis 2500D for 6 years. It has been wonderful! The issues I have ever had with it have been user errors! LOL I have found Brother machines very user friendly and the instruction manual very easy to use when I went back to figure out what I was doing wrong. Also calling Brother for help was easy and they were great to deal with. I bought it from a dealer, but she retired 3 years ago sooo..... I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Brother. I had tried several other machines before I bought. I felt I got the most bang for my buck and quuality.

canuckninepatch 09-12-2011 04:43 AM

Are you using Janome bobbins? I tried using cheap bobbins (turned out they had little plastic tags sticking out and weren't perfectly smooth like the Janome bobbins are). Small thing - big difference!!!

gardnergal970 09-12-2011 04:53 AM

I thought my machine, a Brother 6000, had died until I tried different thread. Nothing I tried...cleaning the fuzz, re-threading the machine...and then I changed the brand of thread. It was almost like magic. I won't use anything but Aurifil from now on. Maybe all your machine needs is s better quality thread. It's an easy solution to what could get to be a very expensive problem!

themary 09-12-2011 04:58 AM

I am not real happy with any of the Janome machines, however my daughter has two and really really likes them.

eimay 09-12-2011 05:10 AM

Be sure you are using only Janome bobbins. Some bobbins on the market say they can be used in the Janome. They can't. Janome's bobbin works off a "floating magnet". The "universal" bobbins can be off just a smidge, but cause problems. Also if you do not have your thread firmly in the take up eye, you may have a problem. Also be sure your bobbin is in the correct direction (The thread should form the letter P before you put it in). Hope this helps.

Rettie V. Grama 09-12-2011 05:10 AM

I have had 3 Brother Machines in the last 20 years. I have never bought an expensive machine. I just use them until they don't fit my fancy anymore. Go buy another Brother (upgraded somewhat) Now I have 2. Used both at the same time, then got the bright idea of tryig a Kenmore as they had a machine on sale that had olots of embroidery patterns. Mistake! It broke in 6 months. Costs more to have it repaired than it cost in the beginning. So, now I have just my little Quilting Brother. It works like a charm and does an excellent job on everytthing I try. Soon, I will upgrade it to the next level.

nabobw 09-12-2011 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by sherry mcd
The bobbins don't stay solidly in place like they should. They sort of bounce up and down. I do get the Error messages often. Then I remove the throat plate and clean the lint out. A real pain. I may have "new machine fever" because I also have "new car fever". Thanks.

Take it back to the dealer as this should not happen, I have a 7700 and do not have a problem with it. But if I did I know my dealer would fix it.

TacoMama 09-12-2011 05:20 AM

I love the Brother machines as I have 3 of them.

MamaHen 09-12-2011 05:27 AM

It sounds like the problem is the BOBBIN not the machine. Incorrect size bobbins will hop around so use the correct size for the Janome, I use only bobbins made for Janome's. A lady in our guild was using off the rack bobbins in her Janome and couldn't figure out why she was having so much trouble, gave her a Janome bobbin and it solved every problem. Don't blame the machine, blame the parts & pieces!

sherry mcd 09-12-2011 05:48 AM

Thanks for all the helpful suggestions. The Brother "Isodore" is an embroidery/sewing machine. I do not do FMQ, and I thought I could use the embroidery function in quilting. Is that a possibility?

newfie 09-12-2011 06:01 AM

I have a janome 7700 and just love it. worth every penny. I was told by the dealer that you have to use bobbins that are made for that machine, I did buy some but I also use the ones I already have.never a problem.call your dearler or even janome for help.you can send me a message if you like maybe I can help.

BarbM32 09-12-2011 06:04 AM

I found out the hard way to use only what is made for the machine, bobbins, replacement parts, feet, etc. I ruined a Bro 1500 using prewound bobbins and have never used another prewound bobbin since. It would cost so much to fix it that I replaced the 1500 with a Bro 4000D which I did not purchase from the dealer wanting to fix my machine. Off the rack bobbins, feet or other parts are not the same quality as what is made for the machine in question. By the way I do have a Janome 2007 and I love it for easy use, cost, portability, quality sewing, nice dealer. Also I make sure the bobbin thread I use is for the machine I am embroidering on.

unclefreckles 09-12-2011 06:05 AM

I have had 2 Janome machines and now have a Brother Quattro and I would have to say that the Brother has much more trouble free than the Janome and the dealer for the Brothers is an absolute jewel.
I love my Brothers.

Ann Marie O 09-12-2011 06:07 AM

I have the Laura Ashley Innovis 2000 and love it. I debated between several different machines and felt this was the best deal for the money and have been very happy with everything about it.

charhend 09-12-2011 06:19 AM

I have the Brother 4500D and the 600. I put in hours of shopping and trying out the different brands of machines. After doing the homework I found the brother machines to be the most user friendly ones on the market. I would not trade mine in for another brand for anything. Love them both.

nunnyJo 09-12-2011 06:34 AM

have the Janome 6600 and it's a dream. bet ya got a lemon

Z Any Mouse 09-12-2011 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by eimay
Be sure you are using only Janome bobbins. Some bobbins on the market say they can be used in the Janome. They can't. Janome's bobbin works off a "floating magnet". The "universal" bobbins can be off just a smidge, but cause problems. Also if you do not have your thread firmly in the take up eye, you may have a problem. Also be sure your bobbin is in the correct direction (The thread should form the letter P before you put it in). Hope this helps.

I have a Janome 6600 and was experiencing the same thing with the bobbin rattling, sometimes causing a nice little birds nest to form on the back. Before freaking out, I decided to try using only Janome bobbins, and it worked like a charm. I clean the lint out regularly, definitely between each bobbin change. It's like liposuction, only easier.


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