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ruby2shoes 06-19-2019 11:16 PM

Lending a pattern
 
Is it alright for me to lend a pattern to a friend....what if she makes a copy of it without my knowing?

patricej 06-19-2019 11:29 PM

you can legally lend somebody your original, legal copy of the pattern.
if she makes a bootleg copy behind your back before returning the original ...

she's no friend.

ruby2shoes 06-20-2019 03:28 AM

Thanks Patrice, I was thinking about lending a pattern to a friend whose daughter is interested but I'm a bit worried about that happening. Maybe I best not do it.

ruby2shoes 06-20-2019 04:10 AM

Yep,thanks Patrice and lyric girl. Thinking about it, and what you have said, I don't think I know them well enough to be comfortable lending it. Perhaps I will just show them where they can purchase it.

bearisgray 06-20-2019 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by ruby2shoes (Post 8267689)
Yep,thanks Patrice and lyric girl. Thinking about it, and what you have said, I don't think I know them well enough to be comfortable lending it. Perhaps I will just show them where they can purchase it.

I have learned the hard way to not lend books or patterns that I am unable to replace.

Did you offer or did they ask to borrow the pattern?

SusieQOH 06-20-2019 04:49 AM

I agree. Designers put a lot of work into their patterns. Whether you lend the pattern and she uses it or makes a copy it's still denying the designer a sale.

joe'smom 06-20-2019 07:36 AM

If you want to lend it, you could explain that it is against copyright law for her to copy it.

I think it's best not to lend something you wouldn't be willing to give away, because things lent are sometimes never returned.

Iceblossom 06-20-2019 08:00 AM

It's not always the full reason but it is true when I say, "I've found I'm not very happy lending things, nothing against you of course but here's where I got it". Sometimes it's just the nicer way of saying "get your own, cheap-o!". But like most of us, I've had my share of good stuff disappear here and there, or I'm pretty fussy about how I treat books and most people are less kind than I am to them.

I'm big on copyright protection, partly because I started in advertising many decades ago and had to be aware of issues as the secretary to the creative department, also helped some with things like SAG and other contract issues, but also just because I feel it's a reasonable and just thing that I can uphold.

Although I drafted out my own Hazel Hedgehog pattern, because what I was doing is a copy of someone else's work, I bought the pattern on-line. I will always credit it as Hazel Hedgehog by Elizabeth Hartman because that is what it is. The "fair use" part of copyright especially when it pertains to images and art does allow us to make direct lifts from other people's work images but that doesn't make it original and then we are definitely not allowed to use their written text and images as our own. For me, it wasn't right to not credit the artist by not paying for the pattern even though I never would have thought of it on my own but that's why we have lawyers and for someone else that's just fair use.

It gets a bit more problematic for me when dealing with I'm cheap and I buy used books and music. The original author (or artist if music) doesn't get any extra coin, but the person who first bought it got the rights to use it, including to give it so someone else. Still, I like to make sure that I give credit where credit is due when I'm linking a book, or technique or whatever.

Jordan 06-20-2019 08:04 AM

It is really best if you don't lend out your pattern. I have found that when I "lend" a pattern or book to someone---I never see it again. I think the right thing to do is that you tell that person where they can purchase the pattern or book. Good luck and I know this puts you in an uncomfortable situation.

RedGarnet222 06-20-2019 08:41 AM

I agree with what everyone else is saying. I have "lost" many patterns that way. I would tell her the complete name of the pattern and let her maybe find it on ebay if it is out of print.


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