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dar627742 07-29-2010 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by Jingleberry
If you would use a stain blocker - like Kilz - you wouldn't have had to wash the walls or ceilings. kilz is used to cover water marks Etc. It seals stains so they won't bleed through the new paint. Grease Lightening should remove the grease, or the new Dawn Direct Foam or good ole ammonia.

best stuff on the market !!!

CAKELSEY 07-29-2010 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by seamstome
First hubby and I had a couple rentals. Had a renter once that lived like that...you poor thing. He was some kind of mechanic and never cleaned the tub or toilet in the two years he lived in the place plus he smoked. The stove had to be thrown out...you could not clean it. I got sick from the chemicals when I first tried. It would have taken a commercial crew with industrial products to clean it.
Sounds like about the same deal. This one I think was there 2 yrs and left owing rent. Of course it was not my rent house. That's why my husband said I could have the house when we bought it. He has never wanted rent property. And talk about the stove. I don't think yours could have been any worse than this one. I just wish I had taken a picture of it before. I was going to throw it out but decided to clean it. It took a LOT of scrubbing but I did it. Looks pretty good now. I think it is still the old stove my neighbor had before she passed away. I used to go over and help her out after I quit work about 16 years ago. I think she would be glad I have her house now. Looks like I have posted in the middle of yours but I don't know how to fix it. Sorry, Carol
The house was about 800-900SF. We gutted the house and started from scratch rather than attempt to clean it. Of course, he never paid the last couple months rent and he acted like it was no big deal when you talked to him.

Never will I own a rental again.

I am not a super duper neat housekeeper but it is TRULY amazing how some people live.


CAKELSEY 07-29-2010 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by dar627742

Originally Posted by CAKELSEY

Originally Posted by ClairVoyantQuilter

Originally Posted by CAKELSEY
Thank you, another thing to consider. I live near Wichita Falls, about a mile from Oklahoma.

Then humidity will be a small factor . . .so you'll want to keep that in mind when shopping for a window unit as condenser capabilities will vary. Can't wait to show my hubby this thread when he gets home since he teases me for taking over the guest room . . .you're getting a whole house :D

Yes, my husband said I could have the house and he could have the yard. We were just tired of not knowing who would be renting it next. We've had some doozies over there. One renter even poisoned our dog. The house is only about 9 feet from my patio.

i also have a small rental house on my proprty,& have had dreams of turning it into a sewing "house"i'm sure we could get together & compare horror tales about renters!!!unfortunately,i need the income ! FORTUNATELY i found a young couple about 31/2 yrs ago,& i'm thinking about adopting them!!! they do ALL the upkeep w/o being asked or told.i also have a larger house rented on the same property,they take care of it ,too![i do pay them ,of course,but just knowing i don't have to worry about anything is more than worth what little they charge me!]i swear if they ever have a baby,i'll put on an add. to keep them!
i've lived in the biggest house since 1972,& rented out the other 2.have NEVER had tenants like this couple!love them to death.
thanx for letting me vent,dar

Dar, you are very lucky to have your renters. You better keep them. This was not my rent house but we had to deal with the different people back there for about 7 years. If it had been someone like you have we would not have cared.

Gerbie 07-29-2010 05:13 PM

I feel the same way if our neighbors had been good neighbors, I would not have a problem. But partying, allowing the kids to run wild between that house and great grandmas, usually through our yard. Horrible language most of the time. no pride about anything. I do hope we can get the house, it is not as large as ours, but is a 3 bedroom, 1 bath. I would want to keep two of the bedrooms and the bath and take out the kitchen and wash room fixtures. I would use their living room for a den and convert my den into a dining room, so many possibilities. If it is meant to be we will be able to get the house. If I knew good neighbors would be buying it and moving in I would have no problem, but I can only imagine what type of neighbors we would be getting. Good luck on cleaning, and don't work too hard at it.

CAKELSEY 07-29-2010 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Gerbie
I feel the same way if our neighbors had been good neighbors, I would not have a problem. But partying, allowing the kids to run wild between that house and great grandmas, usually through our yard. Horrible language most of the time. no pride about anything. I do hope we can get the house, it is not as large as ours, but is a 3 bedroom, 1 bath. I would want to keep two of the bedrooms and the bath and take out the kitchen and wash room fixtures. I would use their living room for a den and convert my den into a dining room, so many possibilities. If it is meant to be we will be able to get the house. If I knew good neighbors would be buying it and moving in I would have no problem, but I can only imagine what type of neighbors we would be getting. Good luck on cleaning, and don't work too hard at it.

Gerbie, I hope it works out for you too. On my street where I live (bought in 1966) I do have good neighbors. A lot have been here as long as I have. Since I live on the corner I know the people on both streets. They are all glad I bought the house too. They know what kind of people have lived there.

acesgame 07-29-2010 06:30 PM

I have read all the entries on this and am very intrigued. I know the house is small but to run window units constantly (okay, maybe 8-9months/yr) will be rather expensive won't it? If not running constantly, you will have all those humidity and temperature issues with your equipment. The natural gas floor heater will be fine with your fabrics but isn't it a little unsafe to leave burning when you are not there?

fktsewing 07-29-2010 07:00 PM

congradulations on a whole house for quilting and sewing, and for piece of mind from not knowing what kind of neighbors will be there next I think you should name it "Sanctuary" Enjoy.

Quilting Nana 07-29-2010 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by CAKELSEY
I need to ask a couple of questions. I've just bought the small house next door to me to hopefully turn into my sewing craft house. The house was built in 1940, has no central heat or air. My first question is this... will having window air conditioners affect my fabric, sewing machine and serger? Will having an old Deerborn gas heater affect them? Also when I hopefully get organized I had planned on putting vinyl or a clear shower curtain liner on the front of my bookcases to keep the dust off my fabric. Would this be okay? I would appreciate any advice you ladies could give me. Thank you Carol

My first thought is you live in TX. Isn't it humid there?
If so I would use cloth in front of your fabrics. Shower curtan may keep moisture on the fabrics.
Just a thought.

Gerbie 07-29-2010 07:42 PM

Quilting Nana - it is only humid in parts of the state. East Tex, and the coast naturally have humid weather. Central Texas can have a lot of humidity.There is seldom any humidity where I live, and I'm not sure just how much CAKelsey would have in her area, since I have never lived around that area of the state. Our climate here in West Texas where I live is desert area, hot and dry.

Barb in Louisiana 07-30-2010 04:52 AM

We bought a very pre-owned 5th wheel to use for a camp on a Gulf coast beach. One spot on the carpeted ceiling had a yellow ring where he had sat, night after night, smoking. Finally, got most of the yellow off with a steam carpet cleaner, but couldn't get the smoke smell gone. I spray soaked all the carpeted area on the ceiling with Odoban & whoopee! Odor was gone & hasn't returned for 2 years.

Odoban "eats" smoke odors. It is, also, a disinfectant. It smells like eucalyptus temporarily. My mother who is allergic to everything, can't tolerate it, but I love the freshness of the smell. It can be bought at WalMart or Sam's Club. The gallon from Sam's is dilutable. I have two inside dogs at my home. I steam clean my carpets about every 6 months. Between cleanings, after vacuuming, I spray my carpets & love the renewed freshness.

Melinda in Tulsa 07-30-2010 04:55 AM

Barb, What dept do find Odoban in at WM? I would love to get some of this. My DH & I are both smokers (bad habit, I know) and way too many pets! My house thanks you!

Barb in Louisiana 07-30-2010 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by Melinda in Tulsa
Barb, What dept do find Odoban in at WM? I would love to get some of this. My DH & I are both smokers (bad habit, I know) and way too many pets! My house thanks you!

At our local WalMart it is in the cleaner section along with 409, etc. If you know someone with a Sam's card, you can get a concentrated gallon for about $10.00. The gallon lasts forever! The good thing about the Odoban is you can spray it on cloth furniture too. I discovered how good it was after we took a very dirty dog to the vet, & he managed to move the blanket we put on the seat to the floor. My husband was very unhappy about the odor in his truck! That's putting it mildly. I opened the windows, sprayed down the whole cloth back seat & came back 3 hours later to no odor at all. Wow! I am never without my Odoban!

Melinda in Tulsa 07-30-2010 05:13 AM

Oh thank you!! I think I will stop at WM today!

Quilting Nana 07-30-2010 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by Gerbie
Quilting Nana - it is only humid in parts of the state. East Tex, and the coast naturally have humid weather. Central Texas can have a lot of humidity.There is seldom any humidity where I live, and I'm not sure just how much CAKelsey would have in her area, since I have never lived around that area of the state. Our climate here in West Texas where I live is desert area, hot and dry.

Silly me I thought all of Tx was humid.

:oops:

Gerbie 07-30-2010 02:05 PM

You aren't silly Quiltin Nana, if you don't live here and perhaps haven't been all over this big place you wouldn't know. I hope I didn't come across as a smart alec, I was just giving some facts, if I offended, sorry. However it will be humid here tomorrow, because it rained some this afternoon. Gerbie

Melinda in Tulsa 07-30-2010 02:10 PM

Texas is a whole 'nother country :lol: :lol: You name it, it's got it.

ClairVoyantQuilter 07-30-2010 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by Melinda in Tulsa
Texas is a whole 'nother country :lol: :lol: You name it, it's got it.

LOL . . .you've got that right :D I moved here a year and a half ago (been a Tulsa girl my whole life) and it's been quite an adjustment. So dry, our nights typically drop about 10 degrees cooler than Tulsa even though we're about 150 miles further South than Tulsa . . .go figure :D

Quilting Nana 07-30-2010 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by Gerbie
You aren't silly Quiltin Nana, if you don't live here and perhaps haven't been all over this big place you wouldn't know. I hope I didn't come across as a smart alec, I was just giving some facts, if I offended, sorry. However it will be humid here tomorrow, because it rained some this afternoon. Gerbie


NO NO you did not offend me. I didn't take your comment as sarcastic just the facts.
I am so very happy for you. When you are finished with the house you will be as snug as a bug.
I love the pictures you are posting and look forward to more.
Have a blessed day.

CAKELSEY 07-30-2010 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by acesgame
I have read all the entries on this and am very intrigued. I know the house is small but to run window units constantly (okay, maybe 8-9months/yr) will be rather expensive won't it? If not running constantly, you will have all those humidity and temperature issues with your equipment. The natural gas floor heater will be fine with your fabrics but isn't it a little unsafe to leave burning when you are not there?

We are as a rule pretty low humidity around here. As of right now I do not plan on running my air conditioners unless I am over there....or the heater. It is one of those free standing Dearborn's that you can back up to if you are cold. Remember those?? If it is extremely cold I may leave it on low at night. I would like to thank everyone again for all your help. I am going to try to find the Odoban tomorrow. Thanks again
Carol

Melinda in Tulsa 07-30-2010 03:30 PM

West Texas! It is too much like the desert for me! I love the *piney woods of east Texas!* But, Tulsa isn't bad, LOL

quiltinghere 07-30-2010 03:40 PM

Congrats on the house for quilting - but it looks like you have your hands busy. Lots of great suggestions...

I'll add one.

Get some of those plug in air fresheners in YOUR FAVORITE flavor and plug 2 or 3 in around the house - it'll help.

Good luck - keep us posted with pictures of before and afters. You'll see the progress too.

CAKELSEY 07-30-2010 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by quiltinghere
Congrats on the house for quilting - but it looks like you have your hands busy. Lots of great suggestions...

I'll add one.

Get some of those plug in air fresheners in YOUR FAVORITE flavor and plug 2 or 3 in around the house - it'll help.

Good luck - keep us posted with pictures of before and afters. You'll see the progress too.

Thank you, yes I have had lot of good suggestions and appreciate them all.

Gerbie 07-30-2010 07:38 PM

Carol if it gets extremely cold, you might get a smal oil heater that has a thermostat on it looks like an old radiator . We use that in our small office at Church in the winter because of the computer. It takes a long time to heat the room up when you are there working, but it keeps the chill off for the computer. Just a thought. I love the old heaters that you can back up too if it is really cold, but be sure you aren't wearing anything made of polyester or nylon, when back up to it.

Gerbie 07-30-2010 07:42 PM

But West Texas grows on you and after you've been here a while you don't want to leav, or at least you always want to come back. But I was born and raised in the West Texas area, so I love this part of the country.I wasn't born and raised where I live now, I've been here for 40 yrs. so, it's home.

CAKELSEY 07-30-2010 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Gerbie
Carol if it gets extremely cold, you might get a smal oil heater that has a thermostat on it looks like an old radiator . We use that in our small office at Church in the winter because of the computer. It takes a long time to heat the room up when you are there working, but it keeps the chill off for the computer. Just a thought. I love the old heaters that you can back up too if it is really cold, but be sure you aren't wearing anything made of polyester or nylon, when back up to it.

Thanks Gerbie, I will keep that in mind. I do think I will need to get another one of some kind. There is only the one in the living room although that is all my elderly neighbor had when lived there.

zz-pd 07-30-2010 09:26 PM

Wow congratulations on your new sewing house, I would be happy with a room to sew in, but a whole house. I would think I have gone to heaven. Have fun and show us pictures. God bless. Penny

Alondra 08-07-2010 06:58 AM

If you live anywhere south of Lubbock (and that includes most of Texas), I'd definitely look into installing a central a/c-heating unit. That wouldn't add all that much cost, considering what the house cost, and it would save you a lot of grief over many years and make your working conditions more comfortable. Humidity is the big bugaboo down here, and it does its dastardly (and silent) damage both summer AND winter. (So much for alliteration for one day. <G>) Congratulations on your purchase!

Sewze 08-07-2010 08:25 AM

I have read through this entire thread with interest because we have an 1920's empty farmhouse that was completely remodeled in the 70's with central air and heat (oil) on our farm, which we bought in '89. We lived in that house until we built our new house(on the farm)in 2002. Since moving into the new house, we have only allowed our grown children & families to live in the house until they could relocate; therefore, the house is in pretty decent shape. I have been contemplating moving my sewing/quilting/crafts into that house and was wondering about the necessity for keeping the oil furnace on in the Winter (down into the teens) and the AC in the Summer (90's -110 this year). I know the oil does put out soot around the floor vents and the humidity can get fairly high in the Summer without the AC on; but, it is about 2400sq ft. and I hate the expenses that they create. Can anyone tell me if it will harm the equiptment, including a LA if the AC only ran in the warmest hrs & the furnace in the coldest hrs.?

jbud2 08-07-2010 08:26 AM

Your sewing house will mean so much more to you when you are ready to sit down and sew! Make sure you have TWO comfy chairs there - one for you and one for your best helper!! You are so lucky to have such a handy man for a husband! I'd also have a little frig and a maybe a microwave - just to have some snacks on hand.

You are doing a great job with the cleaning. I have used "Greased lightening" a lot but have had no luck with the 'awsome' stuff from the dollar store. And I had to get the Greased Lightening at my hardware store - couldn't get it at the grocery or Walmart!!!

Sewze 08-07-2010 08:30 AM

Also, wanted to congratulate you on your purchase and don't envy you one bit for the amount of work that you are in for. I agree with previous board members who have questioned how anyone could live under such filthy conditions. A couple more products you might try that I have found are very helpful is WD-40 for grease and GOO GONE for really sticky things. Good luck with your endeavor. Jinnie

hobo2000 08-07-2010 09:24 AM

Our big house which we sold was 150 years old and we heated it with a main wood stove, had window air conditioners. My sewing room was big, beautiful with 10 ft ceilings.We lived ther for 37 years, My stash is still like new, my cachines have never been to a repair store. The only change I made was about 10 years ago we bought an Ionizer for that room to keep it dustfree. When it seemed dry, I opened a window or turned on a fan. Enjoy your new craft house and take each thing as it comes your way.

CAKELSEY 08-07-2010 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by Sewze
I have read through this entire thread with interest because we have an 1920's empty farmhouse that was completely remodeled in the 70's with central air and heat (oil) on our farm, which we bought in '89. We lived in that house until we built our new house(on the farm)in 2002. Since moving into the new house, we have only allowed our grown children & families to live in the house until they could relocate; therefore, the house is in pretty decent shape. I have been contemplating moving my sewing/quilting/crafts into that house and was wondering about the necessity for keeping the oil furnace on in the Winter (down into the teens) and the AC in the Summer (90's -110 this year). I know the oil does put out soot around the floor vents and the humidity can get fairly high in the Summer without the AC on; but, it is about 2400sq ft. and I hate the expenses that they create. Can anyone tell me if it will harm the equiptment, including a LA if the AC only ran in the warmest hrs & the furnace in the coldest hrs.?

Oh, what I wouldn't give for a house that big....and in good shape. I'm sorry I can't help you out with your questions but I'm sure if you don't get any answers thru my thread if you would start one of your own you would get a lot of help. There is so much knowledge among these board members I know someone could help. Carol

CAKELSEY 08-07-2010 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by hobo2000
Our big house which we sold was 150 years old and we heated it with a main wood stove, had window air conditioners. My sewing room was big, beautiful with 10 ft ceilings.We lived ther for 37 years, My stash is still like new, my cachines have never been to a repair store. The only change I made was about 10 years ago we bought an Ionizer for that room to keep it dustfree. When it seemed dry, I opened a window or turned on a fan. Enjoy your new craft house and take each thing as it comes your way.

Thank you so much. I'm feeling better about everything and I will make a note about the ionizer. Everyone has been so helpful.

cindyg 08-09-2010 05:28 PM

I agree with ClairVoyant 100%. I have nothing to add except that if you have a closet or two you might want to put shelves in them to store your fabric. That way you can close the door to keep light out. Just make sure the bottom of the door has enough space to let the A/C pull out humidity or, if vice versa, to let humidity in.

mab112146 08-09-2010 05:35 PM

I have a friend in Ledbetter Texas that has a cottage type house that she uses for her sewing studio. Sh has window AC and heat. No problem, she does keep the ceiling fan going all of the time and not the AC all of the time. About once a week she opens the window or door and let the air circulate. We have great times out there. hey put in a full bath and I stay out there when I visit. Good Luck

Quilter Day-by-Day 08-10-2010 04:22 AM

That is so cool to have a whole house to do something you enjoy.

Quilter Day-by-Day 08-10-2010 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by Joyce
Is it possible that you could use a 210 electric baseboard type heaters? How cold does it get where you are? Are you going to be insulating your Craft House?
Just something to think about.

Where is greendale? I'm in Midland MI. Your in Midland Twp.

Quilter Day-by-Day 08-10-2010 04:38 AM

I agree with Momma B on the Kilz we had bought a house a few years ago and I cleaned with vinagar and TSP and used Kilz but I had to use a couple of coats and 2 coats of paint. also I agree pull out any carpet.

Quilter Day-by-Day 08-10-2010 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by DoxieMom
Oh, my! I'll bet your hands and arms are tired! Yikes!


Originally Posted by CAKELSEY

Originally Posted by Linda B
I was born and raised in Wichita Falls. I've been gone from Texas for over 35 years, but sometimes I still get homesick for the open skies and mesquite trees!! I love the idea of a small craft house. Please post pictures -- even 'before' and then the 'after' would be great to see.

Hi Linda, yes I live in Burkburnett.I've lived here since 1960....moved here when I was 16 from Garland. When I get to go on vacation and see all the pretty scenery and get back close to home I wonder why we live in such a flat place.LOL


I like your avatar pic. I have a doxie too. How old is yours? Mine is 5 yrs.

Joyce 08-10-2010 05:24 AM

Where is greendale? I'm in Midland MI. Your in Midland Twp.[/quote]

Welcome to the board. You will love it here.
I don't live in the city of Midland, but I do live in the county of Midland, hence, Greendale Township.
I am about 15 miles west of downtown.
Chippewa River Rd dead-ends at our driveway which is a long one.


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