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Flying_V_Goddess 05-05-2007 08:22 PM

I'm making a denim/blue jeans quilt for a friend of mine who's 21st birthday is coming up. I'm almost half-way done with the quilt top (looking great so far! Yay!). I'm not having any real problems with the quilt...yet.

Right now I have everything for the quilt (I seem to get everything for the quilt top and then gradually buy the things for the rest of the quilt). Except something to bind the quilt. My dilemma is: I have no clue how to "correctly" make binding from fabric and denim costs 5 dollars a yard. Expensive fabric and lack of skill don't go well together. Plus, my friend's birthday is on the 25th so I don't have a lot of time to get this quilt done.

I was thinking about using store bought quilt binding, but I'm not quite sure if I should. On one hand, it'll make things easier and I can get the quilt done in time, wheras if I make my own binding it adds more time and I sort of lack the quilt binding making skills. On the other hand, I don't know how well this store bought binding holds up to the typical wear and tear. Please enlighten me.

Leslee 05-05-2007 09:29 PM

I haven't had any problems with the store-bought bindings. The double-fold wears well. The colors and patterns to choose from are limited, so there are times when making your own binding is the only way to go to get just the look you're after. It might be kinda hard to bind a quilt with denim anyway, so if the packaged binding matches, go for it! I'm sure your friend will love the quilt--Post a picture for us!

SandraJennings 05-06-2007 08:35 AM

I agree with Leslee. The binding you find pre-packaged is fine. Nowadays you have some more interesting possibilities as quilting has made fabric options expand greatly. You can co-ordinate it with your decorative stitching colors or even join complimentary colors to create a colorful edging on the quilt. Please let us see when done. Hey BTW....how is your map quilt coming along?

patricej 05-06-2007 10:24 AM

here's a couple of ways to make a binding that don't require bias, will work great with any fabric you have already on hand, and don't require a Master's Degree. (Unless your're going around curves, in which case bias is the best.)

URL: http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/cr_quilting_tips/article/0,1789,HGTV_3307_4173454,00.html

here's another one. sometimes i find it easy to do this way. sometimes i turn the air blue in the process.

URL: http://www.hgtv.com/hgtv/shows_qlt/article/0,1805,HGTV_3876_3178320,00.html

Flying_V_Goddess 05-06-2007 05:00 PM

So if I buy some pre-packaged binding at Wal-Mart (I think the brand they carry is Wrights) I shouldn't have to worry about it wearing and tearing?

I got the top half-way finished (I've been trying to get at least two rows done a night). Here's what it looks like.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q...blue_quilt.jpg

Sandra: Haven't worked on the map quilt yet. The planning kind of wore my brain out...trying to figure out what would be a good size for each block without getting it too big, playing the game to get the map pieces so I could start making applique patterns...I kind of got sick of it. But I'll eventually get back around to it and make a wonderful quilt.

Speaking of wonderful quilts, the first quilt I made (the black, white, and red baby quilt) should be put into use very soon. My very pregnat friend is almost a week past her due date so if she doesn't have her son by this week (which is sounds like she's getting there since they said she was a cm dialated when she went to the hospital after going to see Spiderman 3) they're going to induce her. I can't wait! :D

Suz 05-06-2007 06:55 PM

I wouldn't use the store binding because I don't think it is wide enough to cover denim, batting and the backing. Additionally, I think it is too thin and won't wear well.

If you want to match the blue color, choose a denim chambray of a similar color. I would cut it on the straight grain and make it double. Obviously, this will be a working quilt and will get a lot of wear.

Another choice would be to make a scrappy binding, using several colors and prints that you may have on hand. A blue or red check would make an interesting binding.

Suzanne

Flying_V_Goddess 05-06-2007 08:20 PM

What exactly is denim chambray?

vicki reno 05-07-2007 03:43 AM

I have done it both wyas. store bought and home made. It depends on time, resources, and colors available. Go with the prepackaged. If it doesn't last, get her to bring it back in a few years and replace the binding. There is a fairly wide binding that Wal Mart carries or use to carry--wider than bias tape and maybe you can find it. I don't use bias as a rule, usually tear strips of fabric--to get it on the straight of grain--use 2 inch strips doubled with wrong sides together. I do piece my strips on the bias since the seam is less noticable that way.Sew the binding to the back side of the quilt and that way when you flip it over to the right side you will have a nice folded edge and you can hand stitch it to the front. Good luck!

Suz 05-07-2007 06:29 AM

Denim Chambray: a heavier cotton in a denim color. The denim shirts are made from denim chambray. Hope this is helpful. Suzanne

rvquilter 05-07-2007 07:05 AM

I do my own binding but that is a choice. I find the store bought way too expensive. I love the quilt. You are doing a wonderful job.

SandraJennings 05-07-2007 07:12 AM

I think it looks great! you have certainly been given many options, so go with which is comfortable for you. Hope your friend and crew to be are doing well. No pressure on the other quilt, these things work themselves out when they are ready. Nice of fabric to be so kind and wait for us to catch up! LOL! Either way you decide to go we would still love to see the finished product. BTW, love the little toe peek!

sarah333 05-07-2007 07:36 AM

love this quilt ,beibg denim it'll keep your friend very warm . tia sarah

Flying_V_Goddess 05-07-2007 08:48 PM

I think he'll like it, too! :) Don't think he'll be using it this summer though (not sure exactly how heavy its gonna be after its done, batting and all). But I'm sure he'll put it through good use during those nasty Minnesota winters!

If I have the time and money I'll go for the handmade binding. If not, go for the alternatives.

Guess my very pregnat friend gonna be using that baby quilt sooner than I thought. She had her baby almost three hours ago! Strange thing was...I had a dream she had given birth to her son and then five seconds after I woke up Mom said that she had gotten a call saying that she was going into labour (for REAL this time! LoL) That was an exciting 10 hours, but that's another story. ;)

SandraJennings 05-08-2007 08:16 AM

OOOh! Give her congrats and wishes for me...newbies are so precious. Now you get to be friend and family "aunt". They can be the best kind.

Catherine 05-08-2007 08:31 AM

Denim always reminds me of tuffness.....Stitch around the edges 1/2 to one inch and let the ends, fray..kinda goes with the theme on denim! and wow how fast is that!!! cut the batting close to the stitching before fraying.
Of course that would give it a more casual look....just an idea.

SandraJennings 05-08-2007 09:47 AM

Hey there ! check out this site for binding help.....sharonschamber.com...look in the freebies section and you can download an instructional on it...good info whatever you choose.

Flying_V_Goddess 05-08-2007 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by SandraJennings
OOOh! Give her congrats and wishes for me...newbies are so precious. Now you get to be friend and family "aunt". They can be the best kind.

Offically, I'm the child's godmother, but I could of swore my friend (the father) called me "Auntie Sam" when they brought the baby back from the operating room. LoL.

sarah333 05-08-2007 06:56 PM

catherine, i cant pic that .do you have any pic. of blue jean quilts like that. would love to see if you do. tia sarah

Flying_V_Goddess 05-08-2007 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by Catherine
Denim always reminds me of tuffness.....Stitch around the edges 1/2 to one inch and let the ends, fray..kinda goes with the theme on denim! and wow how fast is that!!! cut the batting close to the stitching before fraying.
Of course that would give it a more casual look....just an idea.

I thought about doing the frayed edges but I ended up not wanting to go for that look and decided just to make a standard patchwork quilt. :) Which reminds me I have to work a little extra tonight since I didn't get to work on the quilt yesterday since I was at the hospital all day and I was too mentally exuasted anyways to work on it.

By the way, how should finish the quilt (not the binding part, but when you sandwich the quilt together...can't think of what that particular step is called). I've only made one complete quilt and that one was tied and I don't think tieing it would be the best way for a denim quilt...plus, that'd be a lot of ties for a 60x80 quilt...

vicki reno 05-09-2007 03:29 AM

Are you talking about quilting it? If you ar in a hurry, you could quilt around the squares, or quit through the middle of each on a diagonal which woud make an "x" in each block. Or if you are machine quilting, just an overall swirly stitch would look nice. Basically, its whatever floats your boat. I love the colors--anything blue, thats me!

Carla P 05-09-2007 04:43 AM

Vicki is on to something... You could quilt each square on your machine using denim thread and with all of the different colors available (denim thread colors) you could choose to quilt each block with a different color. That might get a little pricey, so you could always use a high contrast color like red or denim gold to really bring it all together. Like Vicki suggested, you could do the crosshatch through the center of each block (X), which would be a pretty quick and simple method, or you could quilt it in the ditch, or any way you choose. Just remember to baste your layers together VERY well because that heavy denim may want to shift a good bit (someone more experienced with denim can tell you better than me how it is going to act when sanwiched). I would highly recommend a walking foot if you will be using your feed dogs or a free motion/darning foot if not. And, consider the weight of the quilt as you mentioned before. You are going to have to be able to handle it throughout the entire quilting process, and the more you quilt, the heavier it is going to be. I am most definitely not trying to discourage you, only remind (or warn if you've never heard) you of the extra weight the quilting will add. I guess my point for it would be to say less (quilting) is sometimes more.

vicki reno 05-09-2007 05:12 AM

Also, if possible try to position a chair or two to support the weight of the quilt as it goes out the back side of the preser foot. the weight hanging off the machine, and/or table will pull ate the quilt, and make it difficult to sew. The chairs or a table will help support the quilt. If you are unsure if you can sew a striaight line, I can't, the you could use blue painters tape or regular ole masking tape if you want to have good straight lines. Just position the tape and sew to one side of it. I have used that techinque lots and its a lot better than trying to mark a quilting line. If you have access to a sewing notions store, check out the varigated or multicolored thread. That will add some pazzaz to the look.
Let us see how it comes out!

sarah333 05-09-2007 07:07 AM

i've done three denim quilts,and it wasn't bad to quilt down at all.a bit heavy yes .but hey their worth it once your under it .i've used the lighter batting and we 're all ready in the 90's here.and i'am still sleeping under it tia sarah

Flying_V_Goddess 05-09-2007 03:03 PM

I think all that left me with more questions than answers, which I guess isn't a bad thing since there's so many people here to provide answers to those questions.

1. What about "stitch in the ditch"? Actually, what exactly is stiching in the ditch? Isn't that where you sew in-between where two pieces meet?

2. What's a walking foot? Well, I know what it is, but not sure what it does. And what sort of disadvantage would I be at for not having one?

3. There's no way in Hell I'd be able to set up a chair to deal with the weight of the quilt. My room is pretty small and the only space I was able to set up a sewing machine was in-between the mattress and the coffee table that has piles of notebooks and other paper-related products stacked on it (they have no where else to go!) The actual sewing space is probably about 36"x72". So given the amount of space I have to work with there's no way I could set up something to deal with the weight. But...with the quilt being almost 3 quarters of the way done, its starting to get pretty weighty and becoming a little bit difficult to deal with. Is there anything I can do?

4. Need suggestions on basting. Never tackled it because I didn't know I really needed to do it and the other quilt was so small that it I really didn't have any problems with shifting anyways.

Carla P 05-09-2007 03:58 PM

Ok... Stitching in the ditch is actually going right along side of the seam where the 2 pieces are joined. I have also heard it explained as stitching right on the seam as you asked, but I have also heard this can cut the joining threads if you have your seams pressed open.

A walking foot sort of acts like feed dogs for the top of your quilt to insure all 3 layers feed at the same speed (the backing doesn't reach the finish line before the batting and then the top).

As far as your space issue, is there any way you could stack those books and such on the floor beside the coffee table you sew on and let your quilt rest on those ? You just don't want too much of it hanging down away form your machine. Anything would work as long as your quilt can drape onto it. You will know if you need to put something there immediately because you will feel the weight pulling at the needle area as you are trying to quilt it... you'll be wresteling with it. If you have enough table top space, you can pile the majority of the quilt's weight around your machine, it will just require adjusting the quilt more often and good basting.

As for basting, safety pins placed every couple of inches work very well. If you do not have safety pins, grab a needle and some contrasting thread (different color than the quilting thread) and hand baste it the old fashioned way. Divide your quilt into quarters (mentally) and begin at the center sewing out to the edges first forming a cross then from the center out again, this time forming an X. After that, baste as many additional radiating lines as necessary to secure the sandwich together. I make stitches about every inch or so, but others may have better information about this basting method.

Flying_V_Goddess 05-09-2007 06:37 PM

Okay...stiching right in the seam would be a bad idea since my seams are pressed open.

I can't really take all that stuff off the coffee table. Too many paper products, too little floor space. Believe me, I would of already cleared the coffee table except I don't have any place to put everything. Other than my sewing area the only real space is right in front of the bedroom door. Can't really pile the weight around the sewing machine either...working on a TV tray. Man, this... really... sucks.

On top of all that I just discovered I'm missing almost 45 denim squares. Either I'm really bad at counting or I misplaced them. I don't think I counted wrong because I counted and recounted before I started quilting and doubled checked that I needed an x-amount of squares. But I've practically disected my room trying to look for them and so far nothing has come up. All I know is I need to find them soon because I only have enough to make two full rows...and I can get that done easy tonight. *scream* Has this happened to anyone else?

Carla P 05-09-2007 07:47 PM

Yup... Do you have dogs??? (my dogs like to claim anything smaller than them & made of cloth.

I find quilt blocks for past projects all of the time.

Here's an idea... Do you have another tv tray?

Flying_V_Goddess 05-09-2007 08:07 PM

Nope. There hasn't been a dog in this house since Nov. '05 (I miss Buddy *sniff). And I doubt the cat would drag anything...besides, she's been spending her sweet time outside.

Yeah, I have several TV trays. What did you have in mind? Can't place one to either side of me, though, since there's a coffee table with enough paper products to kill a tree to my left and a matress to my right.

Carla P 05-09-2007 08:15 PM

Ok then, well how about you fold them down and stack one or more on top of the paper mountain & allow the quilt to drape onto there. If they have the removable legs, take them off & stack only the tops on the table. You could even fold another quilt to lay under the tops of the trays... anything to create height for the drape to rest on. That's all...

Where there is a will, there is a way. You're an artist, right? Be creative. And if all else fails, fake it until you make it!!


Flying_V_Goddess 05-09-2007 08:29 PM

The paper mountain is...well, a paper mountain so its not level so I run the risk of knocking it over with that.

The only thing I can think of is to take the mattress and lean it up against the wall so I can move the TV tray with the sewing machine so I can have room to place another TV tray to deal with the weight. Plus, I'll be right in front of the TV :D. But I don't like the idea of raising the mattress and putting it back every single night. Guess its back to the drawing board.

Carla P 05-10-2007 04:44 AM

Could you temporarily put the mattress on your bed for a few days? (I've seen people "store" them in this manner before) However you do it, you're on the right track to figuring out a way to get it done. Maybe you could set up in another room for a couple of days? How about the kitchen table? Maybe even a porch or patio outside? A local library or friends house? You keep considering your possibilities. You obviously want to finish this quilt for your friends, so the drive and determination are there; all of the rest are minor inconveniences to overcome.

Did you find those other patches?

vicki reno 05-10-2007 08:29 AM

There are several ways to baste a quilt--by hand, with safety pins or basting spray. My favorite method is with basting spray which is a temporay adhesive that you spray onto both sides of the batting. I have done the other methods also. If you are using the spray, try to lay out your batting on maybe the dining room table. If it hangs over just spray the middle. Fold your quilt in thirds and lay the middle third of the quilt on the sprayed batting and smooth it out--top of the quilt only. Repeat this step for the other 2 sections of the top and then flip it over and spray the batting on the other side, say 1/3 at a time. Smooth it out too. I should hold everything in palce w/out shifting while you quilt.
A walking foot feeds the quilt under the pressr foot in a more even fashion than a regular presser foot. It keeps the presser foot from pushing the top layer ahead of everything else--it feeds it through like I said more evenly. Is it an option to maybe set up on the dining table to sew? If you think it is heavy now, try wrestling with it once you get your "sandwich" put together of top, batting and backing. Not impossible, I don't want to worry you, but any extra support you can figure out will make it that much easier.
Good LUck :-)

Flying_V_Goddess 05-10-2007 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Carla P
Could you temporarily put the mattress on your bed for a few days? (I've seen people "store" them in this manner before) However you do it, you're on the right track to figuring out a way to get it done. Maybe you could set up in another room for a couple of days? How about the kitchen table? Maybe even a porch or patio outside? A local library or friends house? You keep considering your possibilities. You obviously want to finish this quilt for your friends, so the drive and determination are there; all of the rest are minor inconveniences to overcome.

Did you find those other patches?

Um...I don't have a bed. I sleep on a mattress on the floor. No luck with the dining table either because...well, we don't have a kitchen table (hence the coffee tables and the TV trays). And I really can't set up anywhere else anyways because usually I quilt late at night when everyone else is asleep and no one can bother me (my room's on one end of the trailer so the rest of the house can't hear my sewing machine humming away). I guess dealing with the weight right now is not too bad (have to wrestle with it a little bit). But its going to be a more than just a little hassle once the batting and backing is on.

No luck finding those other patches. I wish they'd show up because most of them are of the same dark blue color (the light colored ones have the variations in tone). I don't have anything that'd be exact to that dark blue color and using anything close will make it painfully obvious (at least to me anyways) that I ran out of the dark squares and had to improvise. Yeah, I know the quilt doesn't have to be perfect, but hey...I'm an artist. I try to go for my idea of perfection when creating works of art.



Originally Posted by vicki reno
There are several ways to baste a quilt--by hand, with safety pins or basting spray. My favorite method is with basting spray which is a temporay adhesive that you spray onto both sides of the batting. I have done the other methods also. If you are using the spray, try to lay out your batting on maybe the dining room table. If it hangs over just spray the middle. Fold your quilt in thirds and lay the middle third of the quilt on the sprayed batting and smooth it out--top of the quilt only. Repeat this step for the other 2 sections of the top and then flip it over and spray the batting on the other side, say 1/3 at a time. Smooth it out too. I should hold everything in palce w/out shifting while you quilt.
A walking foot feeds the quilt under the pressr foot in a more even fashion than a regular presser foot. It keeps the presser foot from pushing the top layer ahead of everything else--it feeds it through like I said more evenly. Is it an option to maybe set up on the dining table to sew? If you think it is heavy now, try wrestling with it once you get your "sandwich" put together of top, batting and backing. Not impossible, I don't want to worry you, but any extra support you can figure out will make it that much easier.
Good LUck :-)

This spray adhesive stuff sounds pretty sweet. But how much does it cost and can I find it at my local Wal-Mart Super Center?

Is it going to be impossible to sandwich the quilt if I don't have the walking foot? Don't think Wal-Mart has anything like that and I doubt anyone is gonna drive me to La Crosse so I can go to Hancock's because of the recent trend in gas prices (Did someone blow up an oil rig in Iraq? Gas is like $3.14 a gallon. Geez. Well, at least the high gas prices are probably lowering the amount of drive-by shootings in the bigger cities.)

sarah333 05-10-2007 05:03 PM

flying v g. any ways my situation is kinda like yours. but walmart does sell adhesive spray 5$ or under.i usually need about 2 cans to get a full size quilt down.believe me i sometimes have to put aside to buy my goodies. as long as you have some grass do it out side the spraying of your quilt i mean,if your room is that small you wouldnt want to do it inside any way. fumes would make you to happy if you know what i mean.do you have a clothes line you could all so try that , it must be very tight though ,i tried that once to it wasnt tight enough though.wasnt to neat looking thoughvery beautiful just not neat. f.v.g .dont let theese little things get the best of you. keep on quilting. oh yeah i have to wait right now to finish my crazy quilt so i am cutting out blue jean squares .there all diff. types of b j .and they look great together.i ve done 2 more like that and there beautiful. tia sarah

Flying_V_Goddess 05-10-2007 06:29 PM

I do have some grass space outside to do it on. Might be able to do it on our small porch. Unfortunatly I don't have five dollars to buy the spray...I used whatever money I had to buy more blue jeans thread (man, that stuff sure goes fast) and as many packages of seeds I could afford (that's what mom said she wanted for M-Day). Might have to baste it the old fashioned way.

Finally found all those fabric squares! God, I thought I was going to go crazy looking for 'em! Only thing is...I found them right after I got done cutting up a pair of jeans. I was looking for my 4.5" square template and I lifted up a couple of things from the mountain of paper...they were hiding underneath a couple of notebooks. Wish I could of found them before I cut up another pair of jeans. But at least I can finish the last four rows of the quilt top now...I should get that done by tomorrow night. :D

Moonpi 05-10-2007 07:41 PM

I'm extremely space-challenged too - I use reject masonite spread over tv tables, expanding the space as needed with the ironing board covered in dollr reject masonite from Home depot. I'm going to be putting this queen top together and was wondering if there was a way to hang it all on the clothesline to pin together . Has anyone tried that before? In theory, it should work.

Debbie Murry 05-11-2007 02:56 AM

If space is a problem maybe you can quilt it in parts. This means you will have to rip some seams out. Divide the quilt in 3 by 3 sections, quilt these then put them all together like a "Quilt as you go". Also adding batting is going to make this VERY heavy. You might just want to quilt the top and back together. Have you got the back fab yet, if not a nice flannel would work well. If all else fails you can always just tie them together

vicki reno 05-11-2007 06:05 AM

Basting it the old fashioned way is not bad either. If you do your work late at nite, you wouldn't want to spray in the house because of the fumes anyway. Quilting it in sections sounds like it'll be the easiest way to go. Especially because of the weight. I have not done it that way ye, but wish I had thought of it before I pieced this top together. I had to resort to handquilting the part of the top, it was too big to manuver around the small pieces on the machine.
Good LUck! CAn't wait to see it completed.

Flying_V_Goddess 05-11-2007 02:15 PM

I do have fabric for the back (went for dark blue homespun cotton). Hopefully I did my math right and got enough of it. And do you think using low-loft batting won't make it quite as heavy? I want a little weight to it, but I don't want it so heavy that it practically suffocates you.

Oy. I really don't want to take the top apart...not since I've been working my *bleep!* off for 3-5 hours each night for over two weeks to get this thing done in time for Nick's birthday. Ripping out to yards of thread multiple times isn't exactly what I call fun. Besides...I don't have a half decent seam ripper that'll rip out all those stitches.

I'm thinking about doing the "X" thing with sandwiching the quilt together. I'm wondering if I could just do it through the dark squares. The denim thread blends pretty well with the dark denim, but stands out against the lighter colored denim pieces, which in my head looks...unflattering. I'm just wondering if stitching X's through the dark squares will be enough to secure the quilt to the batting and back properly.

Flying_V_Goddess 05-12-2007 12:53 PM

I got the quilt top done! Yay!

...crap, now I gotta start making it into a quilt. I'm getting a bit scared now (what if I screw up?! Ack!)


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