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alageeps 04-07-2011 04:39 AM

I am the same way..I like to be shown then I know that I am doing it the right way. :shock:

Cheshirecatquilter 04-07-2011 04:40 AM

When you sew a half hexagon together you end up with a piece that has two parallel edges and two edges at an angle. If you lay one of them down with the longest edge facing you, you can think of it as an "M" shape. If you turn it half way around you can think of it as a "W" shape.

You sew a row of alternating M's and W's into a long strip.

Lay it out so you can place the matching half hexagons in the right order next to it, so now it looks like a strip of full hexagons.

M W M W M W
W M W M W M

Pin and sew the second strip of half hexagons alternating W's and M's as you did the first strip.

You'll now have two long strips with long parallel edges that you can join together along the long edge, and hopefully your hexagon halves will be aligned in the right order so you end up with a full row of hexagons.

GailG 04-07-2011 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by amma
You sew half hexagons, 3 pieces together. Lay them out as a whole block on a design wall, bed, floor, etc...

Sew 2 more halves together and place them next to the first one. You need to place the second one upside down to get the sides to match up.

Keep going until all of the blocks are sewn and switch the blocks around til you are happy with how they look.

Once you are happy with the layout, then you will sew the halves into strips vertically, and then all of the strips together :D:D:D


I am so glad the question was asked!! ANd thanks for this explanation. I finally GET it.!!

fivepaws 04-07-2011 06:20 AM

Thanks, Kathy, that I can visualize. Up until your post, I was having a hard time. Can I remember that when I make my first one? Probably not, so I will be back looking all thru the posts again. ♥

Tawnya's Mom 04-07-2011 06:51 AM

Thank you also. I couldn't understand either until I saw a picture. This board is amazing. :D :thumbup:

libbiebean 04-07-2011 06:54 AM

OK, so I don't have the book. I have looked and read every thing posted about OBWs. I can't even look at fabric and see the "repeats" or whatever to make the hex design. Suzi, I don't have a dog kennel - mine is go to the garden - but I've already been out there this morning, so am going to go try the 3-D pinwheels. My brain doesn't comprehend complications. And OBW is definitely complicated.

lue 04-07-2011 07:06 AM

Suzi, I've had my hexagons on my design wall for MONTHS--too scared to start and thinking I'll figure it out the more I look at it. I think I've got it but I've decided to ask one of my quilt guild friends to come over and just walk me through it. She's wonderful that way and I don't want to have to rip anything out. I think it's one of the more difficult concepts to grasp (and I graduated with honors as well). A lot of good that does us when putting together a OBW! I have a quilt retreat in a few weeks and my intent is to have it together by then for "show and tell".

duckydo 04-07-2011 07:13 AM

Love this fabric, but you need to only sew half the hex together first. Can you purchase a book or borrow one from a friend? Better plan on some frog stitches. Can I ask where you got the fabric and would you put up a pic of the original fabric. It is drop dead gorgeous

duckydo 04-07-2011 07:14 AM

dunster, your diagram is excellent!

martha jo 04-07-2011 07:30 AM

Just sew the two halves and pin them together in the middle. Then arrange on the design board and when you have the blocks the way you want. sew the two parts together on the angle starting at the top where it will be small and then coming on down. It just doesn't work if you sew the whole block together at first.

mimee4 04-07-2011 07:47 AM

Ding, ding, ding. The bell rang in my head, too. How simple! And I was trying to make it so hard. Thank you everybody!!

Charley 04-07-2011 07:51 AM

i noticed that you have a lot of hexes with the same fabric grouped together. I think they should be scattered to create more interest. Just a suggestion.

Joyce29 04-07-2011 07:53 AM

This post is so good! I've had my OBW fabric sitting there, staring at me, for several weeks. I haven't cut into it yet because I could not understand how I was going to sew all those "whole" octagons/hexagons together. - Thanks for giving an "AHA" moment to many of us.

QuiltE 04-07-2011 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by Joyce29
This post is so good! I've had my OBW fabric sitting there, staring at me, for several weeks. I haven't cut into it yet because I could not understand how I was going to sew all those "whole" octagons/hexagons together. - Thanks for giving an "AHA" moment to many of us.

I've been more worried about stacking and then cutting it wrong. Can't wait til the 15th for my course!

sherriequilts 04-07-2011 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Suzi

Originally Posted by saf

Originally Posted by Suzi
AHA!! - EUREKA!! - SHAZAAM!! - BINGO!! I dwaddled around out at the kennels, hoping that one of these comments would click when I returned and reread. Trapezoids from RebeccaVLQ gave me a mental picture, amma's pic of her OBW let me see what I needed to see and then dunster put the cap on it. It turns out that my main problem was that I had laid out the hexes without regard to where the pinned centers were facing ...... some were right and most were wrong. Every one of you helped me and I'm forever grateful. This board is fantastic ----- I belong to a few forums covering several different subjects and none of them would have gotton me out of this jam so quickly and so well. Thank you, thank you, thank you ...........!!!

Out of interest - are the dog kennels nice and clean? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes, but you know this is an on-going chore - they get done morning, noon and evening. Not what you would call a fun thing, but it keeps me moving and reasonably agile ............

:XD:

So glad you are on a roll with the OBW now. But I have to ask! How many dogs and what kind?!

frog90 04-07-2011 08:18 AM

Ok I think I have the how to lay out and the sew and I have some fabric but what and how do you start to cut it out

Liz aka Helen 04-07-2011 08:24 AM

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Does this help? This is my quilting challenge for the quilting group I'm with. Not a typical OBW but the concept it the same. I thought I'd be slick and sew the hexs together then join....oops....not going to work so I had to ripe out the center seam and lay out like I should have in the first place. Good luck!!! PM me if you need to talk this through, I'll help as much as a newbie in OBW can. Helen

half of it is sewn together, working on strips and then add to remaining unit
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close up of main unit the next strip and 1/2 hexs that have to be sewn together to create strip
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catmcclure 04-07-2011 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Suzi
I have read the book and read CuteBuns' tute 'til I'm blue in the face and I STILL can't figure out how to sew this OBW together. Is there anyone out there who can help me here? I'm a visual person - I guess just reading the instructions isn't penatrating

You sew three triangles together to make a half/hex (HH). Sew the other three triangles together to make another HH. Do not sew the two HH together, you can either tape them together with scotch tape or pin to make a full hex (FH). Put the FH on your design board. Keep making these units until you have all your HH made and pinned or taped. Now arrange them on your design wall with the taped/pinned unsewn seam running up and down on all blocks. When you have them arranged the way you like them best, take the tape/pins off/out and sew the rows together from top to bottom. Then sew the rows together from side to side.

damaquilts 04-07-2011 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by kathy
it looks like you sewed thw whole hex together, you don't do that, only 1/2 the sew 1/2 of the next one onto the end, so you have a long row of halves, then when you make the next row of halves, you sew the two rows togwther, that makes the block complete

Ahh I am so glad I read this now. It makes perfect sense and I haven't started mine yet. :-) Now if I can just remember this when I do get around to doing it.

Carron 04-07-2011 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by amma
Here is a close up of my OBW

See how each individual hexagon unit is off set? They do not line up in a row, they kind of zig zag.

I hope this helps :D

WOW !!! For some reason of the many OBW quilts pictures I have looked at and still could not understand the process of connecting the pieces, this particular picture that you posted amma, finally turned on the "Got it" light.

Oh Suzi, I understand oh so well the frustration of trying to figure this problem out. I too am visual but, now that I see it, all the wordy responses make total sense.

I am humbled by the wisdom that is expressed on this board and the fact that everyone is so willing to help. Thanks to all!

IBQUILTIN 04-07-2011 09:38 AM

Suzi, I haven't done one of these, but I have sure been in your position. Sometimes it is really frustrating. Hang in there, and all of a sudden it will happen,

JoanneS 04-07-2011 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Charley
i noticed that you have a lot of hexes with the same fabric grouped together. I think they should be scattered to create more interest. Just a suggestion.

Not necessarily - look at my Critter Kaleidescope. I grouped the browns and dark colors in different areas, put in some Cubes and swished some whites through the center. I think it works.

Every OBW is different. A design wall is where you make decisions what looks best to YOU. 2 people with the same hexes would decide on entirely different arrangements.

Charley 04-07-2011 10:22 AM

Oh sure, it always comes down to what each individual likes. It was just my 2 cents worth. I thought the piecing and fabric choices were great! I love it!

Joyce29 04-07-2011 10:22 AM

I've been more worried about stacking and then cutting it wrong. Can't wait til the 15th for my course![/quote]

QuiltE: Is your course online or at your LQS? I've been looking for one to go to.

QuiltE 04-07-2011 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Joyce29
I've been more worried about stacking and then cutting it wrong. Can't wait til the 15th for my course!

QuiltE: Is your course online or at your LQS? I've been looking for one to go to.[/quote]


LQS .... why don't you come?
(yes, a tad long of a commute! :))

Joyce29 04-07-2011 10:28 AM

LQS .... why don't you come?
(yes, a tad long of a commute! :))[/quote]

LOL. Thanks for the invite (I've been known to do some crazy things - but my free flying priveleges don't take me to Canada

:)

PolkaBabe 04-07-2011 12:02 PM

Thank you for the explanations. I think I would have had the same question, now I know ahead of time.

k3n 04-07-2011 12:27 PM

I did a you tube tute on joinging the rows together because although I think the books are excellent and very clear, I can imagine that the row joining could cause problems. Anyway, you seem to have got the hang but otherwise, take a look... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUnPDdjHZdE

:-D :-D :-D

Re the design layout - I personally think they work best when like hexes are grouped together - doesn;t have to be in blocks, can be diagonally or whatever - it varies with the fabric and the blocks you get but scattered doesn't really give the impact that this technique requires and you can just end up with a busy mess. I'd advise you to really read and take in the tips in the book on sorting your blocks and grouping them together on the wall. Then play around with them, over several days if necessary, and take photos and look at them on screen (that clarifies the layout for me always). Until your happy with it. Your eye should flow around the quilt, perhaps pausing here and there at outstanding blocks but never completely coming to rest in any one spot. Good luck - the design can be challenging but a successful OBW is a thing of beauty! Joanne S's (she posted the link to it above) is a fabulous example as it's a limited colour palette but VERY striking in design terms. :-D Here's the link to her's - sorry, she hadn't posted it but I'm sure she won't mind if I do! http://www.quiltingboard.com/t-113203-1.htm

sewgarden 04-07-2011 12:46 PM

I was looking forward to trying this one day and then reading all the instructions here had me thinking that it would be way to hard. Looking at your photo just explained it all. Thank you

Suzi 04-07-2011 02:53 PM

k3n - thanks so much for the links to the tute and to JoanneS's OBW. Her OBW was the one that let me know I could go ahead with a muted fabric and hopefully create something enjoyable. I'm not using squares in mine though and I have very little light value showing .... am getting anxious to get this done (I only have 3 rows sewn - life keeps getting in the way --- ;o))

Thanks to all the women who sent encouraging PMs - this is just the most fantastic board populated by the most fantastic people. I will post a picture of the quilt when it's done along with the picture of the original fabric. Someone asked in this thread where this fabric was from and I honestly don't know. It's been in my small stash for awhile and was my 5th. choice for an OBW since the first 4, when laid out, just didn't work for me.

galvestonangel 04-07-2011 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by amma
Here is a close up of my OBW

See how each individual hexagon unit is off set? They do not line up in a row, they kind of zig zag.

I hope this helps :D

I don't know about the original questioner, but I finally got it with your picture. Before that it sounded like they were talking in circles. I must be visual too.

quiltermo 04-07-2011 03:37 PM

Thanks, AMMA. Looking at your picture I finally see how they are set together. Thanks again.

debcavan 04-07-2011 03:47 PM

Amma is good. You will be sewing rows together not six sided blocks

debcavan 04-07-2011 03:49 PM

And you are not dumb. WE learn things a little at a time and you haven't run across this method yet. Your mind was trying to put into some method you already knew or saw the six sided and was trying to put them together. We learn, but we learn in different ways. You definitely are not dumb

Granny Coy 04-07-2011 06:19 PM

This all sounds like an alien language to me. Worse than Greek. Maybe Martian. I am glad I am not trying to put this together.

lwests 04-07-2011 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by Suzi
AHA!! - EUREKA!! - SHAZAAM!! - BINGO!! I dwaddled around out at the kennels, hoping that one of these comments would click when I returned and reread. Trapezoids from RebeccaVLQ gave me a mental picture, amma's pic of her OBW let me see what I needed to see and then dunster put the cap on it. It turns out that my main problem was that I had laid out the hexes without regard to where the pinned centers were facing ...... some were right and most were wrong. Every one of you helped me and I'm forever grateful. This board is fantastic ----- I belong to a few forums covering several different subjects and none of them would have gotton me out of this jam so quickly and so well. Thank you, thank you, thank you ...........!!!

This is why I LOVE this board. EVERYONE is so kind in helping. No question is a dumb question if you do not know the answer. I learn so much by just reading.

Phyl 04-07-2011 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by amma
You sew half hexagons, 3 pieces together. Lay them out as a whole block on a design wall, bed, floor, etc...

Sew 2 more halves together and place them next to the first one. You need to place the second one upside down to get the sides to match up.

Keep going until all of the blocks are sewn and switch the blocks around til you are happy with how they look.

Once you are happy with the layout, then you will sew the halves into strips vertically, and then all of the strips together :D:D:D

Suzi and Amma...I love you both! Suzi for asking the question and Amma for writing such a clear explanation! I was torturing myself sewing each seam together separately until I was almost finished and I began squaring up the piece. All of a sudden....voila! The "sew three pieces together etc" hit me! Where have you both been while I was struggling??????? THANK YOU BOTH!!!! SIGH............................

sewingsuz 04-07-2011 07:29 PM

I had to read the book on the pages where you put the halfs in rows before I understood. Your blocks are very pretty. You will get there!

sewingsuz 04-07-2011 07:46 PM

Thanks so much for all of the help on this thread, i am still working with the hexagons and am almost done and read for my daughter to sort by color and then I be ready to sew halfs together. Suzanne

QuiltE 04-07-2011 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Joyce29
LQS .... why don't you come?
(yes, a tad long of a commute! :))

LOL. Thanks for the invite (I've been known to do some crazy things - but my free flying priveleges don't take me to Canada

:)[/quote]

Now wouldn't that be something if you could organize it! Take a look for Waterloo Airport in Kitchener, Ontario... it's very very close to the LQS. I would gladly pick you up!


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