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Thread: The Qult Police is ..... me????

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    The Qult Police is ..... me????

    I teach in an elementary school. One of the other ladies there crochets beautifully and has just branched out into quilting. She brought a table runner for me to see - it was basically a 10-minute runner, but she had strip pieced the focus fabric from a variety of Christmas fabrics - really cute idea. She wanted to know if she could put a $20 price tag on it for a benefit for our deaf children. I asked how many yds of fabric were in it - maybe 1 - 1 1/2. I told her to double the cost of materials so she could ask $20 - $25 and that I'd put $25 because it was for a good cause.

    Okay - here's the quilt police part ... she had basted it very loosely evidently cause instead of being tight it was very loose and puffy. I didn't say a word, but ... wonder if later I should ... say something? As a mentor rather than a policeman? Except that presumes that I think I'm right and she's wrong ... maybe she likes it puffy? What do ya'll think?
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    i would make a new quilt friend and try to find out if she meant it

    if not, i would tell her how i avoid such issues.

    maybe you guys could have a quilt and coffee hang out!

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    Oooo, a toughy. Stillclock has a good idea about having a hangout time and bringing up such issues as a "general" topic of discussion, among other things. Share some of your items at the time.

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    I would only offer advice if I was asked. It is the thought that counts and the money is going to a good cause. Hopefully a non-quilter will find it irresistible.

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    Hmmm. I can see both sides of that fence. It might be that the puffy look was what she wanted. Or it might be she did not know better.

    As a still very-new-to-quilting person, if I'm screwing something up (frequent occurrence), I would appreciate the head's up IF it came from a friend and was nicely framed. Something to the effect of I love the colors, blah blah blah, but you know how you could really improve the next one you make? Try to do thus and such and see how you like the method I use.

    If you have a lovable quilt group, invite her to test the waters. If not, be a mentor & quilting buddy.

    As I have been told, non-quilters generally think things are lovely even when the points don't match and the stitching is less than perfect. I know in painting, I may do something that looks like it's destined for the dumpster only to have a non-painter think it's totally awesome. She did the best she knew how and it came from the heart. If it doesn't fall apart in the wash, it's a winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draggin_behind View Post
    Hmmm. I can see both sides of that fence. It might be that the puffy look was what she wanted. Or it might be she did not know better.

    As a still very-new-to-quilting person, if I'm screwing something up (frequent occurrence), I would appreciate the head's up IF it came from a friend and was nicely framed. Something to the effect of I love the colors, blah blah blah, but you know how you could really improve the next one you make? Try to do thus and such and see how you like the method I use.

    If you have a lovable quilt group, invite her to test the waters. If not, be a mentor & quilting buddy.

    As I have been told, non-quilters generally think things are lovely even when the points don't match and the stitching is less than perfect. I know in painting, I may do something that looks like it's destined for the dumpster only to have a non-painter think it's totally awesome. She did the best she knew how and it came from the heart. If it doesn't fall apart in the wash, it's a winner.
    Too funny!

    I probably wouldn't give her advice unless she asked. Except that as a table runner, is it possible that someone will want to put something on it like a vase, etc? and it might be too puffy?

    However...I think like you...a nonsewer/quilter will probably LOVE it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justflyingin View Post
    .......... Except that as a table runner, is it possible that someone will want to put something on it like a vase, etc? and it might be too puffy? .............
    Wouldn't that be something for the buyer to decide?
    Maybe they like puffy?
    Maybe they want it as a centrepiece with nothing on it?




    JanTX ... I'm not sure what you mean when you say
    "...she had basted it very loosely evidently cause instead of being tight it was very loose and puffy..."
    Are you saying?
    * the stitching of the runner is basted?
    * the quilting is done with long running stitches instead of tiny quilting stithces?
    * or what?

    As for the selling of the item ... it's really a matter of "buyer beware" and not a concern. Those considering purchasing will make their own decision.

    As for the makers skills ... you haven't labelled this person as a "friend", so I am thinking you are acquaintances, not more. In that case, I would think you might be better to keep your comments to yourself, unless she asks for advice and mentoring. She may already have a mentor/teacher to coach her along the way and it's not for you to jump in.
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    Why did she show it to you? Was it a "show and tell" situation, or was she seeking your advice? There is nothing more defeating for a new quilter then being made to feel like something was not done correctly, when you were very proud of your final project. Let it go, unless she asked for help on there very thing. Praise her, and encourage her to feel free to share and ask for help anytime she needs it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzieQuilts View Post
    Why did she show it to you? Was it a "show and tell" situation, or was she seeking your advice? There is nothing more defeating for a new quilter then being made to feel like something was not done correctly, when you were very proud of your final project. Let it go, unless she asked for help on there very thing. Praise her, and encourage her to feel free to share and ask for help anytime she needs it.
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    I always say something positive..My friend complemented me on my "nice choice of thread"! LOL! As she does.more quilting she'll figure it out on her own.

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    I would say nothing negative about it, only positive things. However; I would take an opportunity to show her some of my quilts. She would see the difference and make her own choice of how she would quilt her next item - stay with a little puff and loose stitches or go flatter with smaller stitches.

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    Please be kind and say nothing negative... no matter what you are thinking. Discovery is part of quilting. Let her discover her shortcomings for herself, and not point them out to her, lest you take from her the joy she had in creating the piece.

    Unless she asks, "Why am I getting this puffy effect?", don't bring it up. Just encourage her.
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    Agree with the majority here.
    Praise.
    Think most of us new to quilting learn by observing others work. I can see where each item I've made could have been better. This is a learning process meant to be enjoyed.

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    I know your heart is in the right place, but I agree with Tartan that you shouldn't give advice unless it's solicited, especially since you don't know her well. She might be the sort of person who is very sensitive to critique of any kind, so she might take it wrong. Better to err on the side of silence, imo.
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    NO, NO, NO!! What distinguishes the QP, and why we all hate them, is that they offer unsolicited opinions! If she says it turned out puffy and do you have any idea why, THEN you can offer your suggestion for improving it, but ONLY then. Even if she just says "what do you think", its still a better idea to just comment on the lovely fabric than give her technique instructions. Getting better in your quilting makes you more at risk for Quilt Police behavior, especially when you see someone who could really benefit from some free advise, but unless you are asked point blank, keep your improvement suggestions to yourself!

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    I'm agreeing with those, who say, "NO!" Unless she asks for advice and a lesson, don't offer criticism! Let her be proud of her efforts and let the buyer decide whether or not it's acceptable. Unsolicited "constructive criticism" often comes across as hurtful and snotty.
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    I have to go with the give approval where warrented group. Very nice thread indeed.LOL
    However I also think it's great to offer availability for help in the future and the coffee visit. Having one of your runners where she sees it might offer the opportunity to say, "If you are wondering why I quilt my runners more tightly, it's because sometimes the things I sit on them tend to topple over if the runner is too puffy." Perhaps a bit more subtlity than I had there would be called for.
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    I would send the quilt police for doughnuts and only offer compliments. Being a newbie myself and getting "arrested" on my first project was very discouraging!

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    Quiltnmom and Neesie both said it! Be nice for a change. Being perfect can be very lonely. I would rather be remembered for being nice. So lets relax and enjoy the ride.

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    I would not say anything negative about anyone's work-
    If asked I would give helpful hints but still keep the "I would do it this way because it's the right way" to myself.

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    I sure do not want the quilt policeman looking at my things. That is the reason I do things for charity and my family. They still love me for my points that don't match perfectly and the stitching that might not be as good as it should be.

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