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Thread: Singer Spartan sewing machine - Pictures Added

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    This would be an old all metal machine. I think most of them were made in England. I saw one today at the local thrift shop and wonder if anyone here has ever heard of them or have one.

    I'm debating on going back and getting it in the morning. I did some research as soon as I got home on the internet.

    Would appreciate some feedback.

    Thanks.

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    I want to say first of all that I am partial to mechanical old Singer sewing machines. So my opinion is already tainted.

    :lol:

    I have a Singer treadle machine; a Singer handcrank that uses the shuttle; a Singer 66; a Singer 401 (my favorite); a Singer 403; and two featherweights.
    All of them work.

    I love the mechanical machines because many times, you can work on them yourself. Many of the machines manufactured before 1970 were made with metal gears so you don't have the gears breaking up into pieces. Many of my vintage machines will probably outlast my children. (There are some vintage machines Singers that I would not buy ...those are the ones like Touch and Sew that have the plastic gears).

    I've never had a Spartan machine. I'm also on a forum that discusses the vintage machines. Many of the collectors of vintage machines do use their vintage machines for sewing. Several others on the forum are retired sewing machine shop owners.

    The questions I would ask the forum is whether the machine makes a pretty stitch; is it easy to buy parts for it or to get it serviced; and what are the things I should check before buying it. I'm sure that some of them have the Spartan model.

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vintagesingers/


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    Thank you so much! I'll check that out.

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    Spartans are great machines and if you wanted it go ahead and get it before someone else does.

    Did you get a serial number off of it? If you did I can tell you what model and year it was built and how many were allotted for that run.

    Billy

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    As long as it has it's parts ( bobbin case, foot controller, tension assembly)
    I would grab it. It is a workhorse from what I have heard......

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    Keep your fingers crossed....I'll be there when it opens at 9AM in the morning! I'm excited!

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    Oh boy, if you get it please post a picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlehud
    Oh boy, if you get it please post a picture.
    Oh you know it!

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    Well she was there waiting for me and let me tell you, she really got worked over yesterday afternoon. I called and asked if it was still there at 6pm and they said yes. However, when I got there this morning the wood base was gone that it was in and it was in the black base and a little wobbly sitting in that. That was not the case yesterday and I questioned the people there concerning that. Of course no one knew anything. Oh well she's mine now for $9.98 I could clean her up no problem and fix the base. I hooked her up and she ran smooth and quiet so I bought her and here's the picture. I also took her to my neighborhood Sewing machine mechanic and he said I got a good deal. He also told me it was a copy of a Singer Spartan and I told him no.....there's the proof.....made By Singer in Great Britian. He asked me where I got it and just shook his head........lol. He said I got a real good deal then....all was original on it.

    So I am a happy camper this morning......and here's the pics. Just a little clean up and need to find some rubber stoppers for the base and she will be good as new.

    The model number is EP960654......really wish I could find out when she was made.


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    Nice! I had fun yesterday reading some of the history of the Spartan.

    Here is a link...scroll down to April 13, 1959.
    http://www.google.com/archivesearch?...ed=0CCoQ5wIwCg

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    congratulations!! Enjoy it

    Margie

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    That was fun to read, Kapatt....thanks for the link!

    Thanks, Margie.....I know it will be fun to use and I have my granddaughter in mind for it so we can both sew together. She'll love it!

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    Your machine was built in 1960 at a factory in Clydebank, Scotland. It is either a 99K, 185K or 192K model, according to the Singer support page.

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    Thanks so much Mytwopals! This like havinging a brand new toy.....lol!

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    I have a spartan also,and I know it was made in canada,but I am not sure which is the serial number,there is a series od numbers on the side under the wheel

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    Does the series of numbers start with 2 letters and then numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mytwopals
    Your machine was built in 1960 at a factory in Clydebank, Scotland. It is either a 99K, 185K or 192K model, according to the Singer support page.
    Its a 192K with only 50,000 machines allotted for all models that run in January 22 1960. All of those machines are 3/4 sized machines and all are very good machines to have. It a shame that it didnt come with a cabinet those are not the easiest to find.

    But you did get a wonderful deal on your new machine and it looks really nice!!

    This is a 185 that I am working on now, yes its a complete basket case and it took a cutting torch and a 3lb hammer to take it apart. But it will get a complete repaint and all new parts inside and will be just like a new machine before its over with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lfw045
    Does the series of numbers start with 2 letters and then numbers?
    Yes thats your serial number.

    Spartan was the economy model for Singer, still the same quality as the Singers just badged as a Spartan.

    Billy

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    Congratulations on your great find! I am glad you were able to get it! :lol:

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    Thanks everyone, for the comments. I'm thinking that I may just see if I can adapt it to a sewing cabinet that I have here that has no machine in it. Otherwise I will have to figure out a way to fix the base so that the machine doesn't wobble in it. There are some rubber stops on the inside of the base that are missing and am not sure where I'll find replacements for those. Otherwise it just needs a good cleaning.

    I feel like a little kid on Christmas morning......isn't that silly?..LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lfw045
    Does the series of numbers start with 2 letters and then numbers?
    this are the numbers on the side
    Cat NO RFJ 9-8
    120A O,AC & DC
    thats all I can find, on the inside of the throat is says made in great britiain
    on the outside under the wheel it says made in canada,which I know were one in the same awhile ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by azdesertrat
    Quote Originally Posted by lfw045
    Does the series of numbers start with 2 letters and then numbers?
    this are the numbers on the side
    Cat NO RFJ 9-8
    120A O,AC & DC
    thats all I can find, on the inside of the throat is says made in great britiain
    on the outside under the wheel it says made in canada,which I know were one in the same awhile ago
    Ok what you have to do to get your serial number is place the machine on it's side and unscrew the base....remove it and you'll see the number at the top on a flat surface.

    The numbers you are referencing right now are the part number for the motor.

    You will also get an opportunity to clean that little sucker out too.... :D

    Hope that helps,

    Linda D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lfw045
    Quote Originally Posted by azdesertrat
    Quote Originally Posted by lfw045
    Does the series of numbers start with 2 letters and then numbers?
    this are the numbers on the side
    Cat NO RFJ 9-8
    120A O,AC & DC
    thats all I can find, on the inside of the throat is says made in great britiain
    on the outside under the wheel it says made in canada,which I know were one in the same awhile ago
    Ok what you have to do to get your serial number is place the machine on it's side and unscrew the base....remove it and you'll see the number at the top on a flat surface.

    The numbers you are referencing right now are the part number for the motor.

    You will also get an opportunity to clean that little sucker out too.... :D

    Hope that helps,

    Linda D.
    thanks i will do that as soon as I get home from work

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    She is a beauty. What a great find. I'm glad she was still there for you.

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    You lucky duck! Want your money back?!

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