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Thread: Is there a long - or midarm machine with feeddogs?

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    I am quilting right now these boring long lines along the sashings and as always have a hard time to stuff all that fabric under my normal sewing machine.
    I was thinking of buying a HQ sweet sixteen because of the big throat. But I could not do straight lines on it, couldnt I?

    Is there a longarm machine with feeddogs so stitch in the ditch could also be done on it?

    thanks a lot
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    You use rulers with the longarms to help with straight lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candace
    You use rulers with the longarms to help with straight lines.
    I saw on youtube a lady working with such a ruler. Doesnt it take ages to make a 60" line like that?

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    No. But, honestly SITD is not really what you're aiming towards as a long-armer. If I'm going to do longarming or pay for longarming, it's not going to be SITD.

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    long arm's do not have feed dogs because the fabric does not move...it has a hopping foot and the machine itself travels on a carrage. there are plenty of rulers and 'tools' available for following straight lines and patterns.

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    Try looking at the Pfaff, Viking or Brother 9 inch throat machines.
    They have the feed dogs, only do the straight stitch.
    I found a beautiful Pfaff Grand Quilter on Ebay for a great price.
    I am enjoying it.
    Kirsten

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    The new Janome Horizon has a 11" throat which should be fine for all home quilting. I have the Janome 6500 with the 9" throat space and can quilt a King sized quilt with a a bit of manouvering. It will also handle FM quilting very well and Janome 6500's have come down in price since the new Hoizon was released.

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    thank you all. I know that longarms are not made for SID but I would like to have a machine that can do that next to the free motion.
    The Janome Horizon has a lot of features I dont need. I love and want to keep my Bernina.............
    Why dont they make a Machine with a huge throat whitout all this extra stuff most Quilters dont need :?

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    You can clamp the rollers on the long/mid arms without feed dogs and get the straight stitching you are talking about. If you want a square grid it would mean going across the quilt left to right, unload it then re load it the other way. If you wanted it corner to corner you'd have to load the quilt on the diagonal.

    I had a domestic on a table top frame that I only wanted straight stitching left to right, not up and down and this is what I did to keep the stitching even.

    If there is a will there is a way......

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    Quote Originally Posted by granny_59
    thank you all. I know that longarms are not made for SID but I would like to have a machine that can do that next to the free motion.
    The Janome Horizon has a lot of features I dont need. I love and want to keep my Bernina.............
    Why dont they make a Machine with a huge throat whitout all this extra stuff most Quilters dont need :?
    I believe the Bailey Home Quilter still has the feed dogs in it. I'm not 100% positive, though. It is a simple domestic machine that has been stretched to 13-15 or 17" depending on which model you purchase.

    There are industrial machines that they use for sewing curtains, tents, sails, etc. with large throats/harps but they are big, loud, fast and take different needles & bobbins.

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    With my Nolting Longarm you can clamp it down (Lock it) so it only does a straight line left to right, or 'lock' it the other directions to do a line top to bottom. With rulers you can do the diagonals.

    A lot of times with SITD your quilted (pieced) seam is not exactly straight anyway so it would be a matter of guiding the longarm along your seams.

    I also agree with the post of if you are longarming a quilt you want more than just SITD.

    PM me if you have any questions.

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    As I dont want to set it up on a frame this clamp down mecanism wont work for me. I want to set it up on a table.

    I was looking for reviews on the Janome Horizon and they where not too good.
    I was also not able to find out whether the Baileys home quilter has feeddogs.
    Maybe someone has this machine.

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    No feeddogs on my Bailey. Maybe you could special order one with feed dogs from them? It's basically just a stretched Janome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rivka
    No feeddogs on my Bailey. Maybe you could special order one with feed dogs from them? It's basically just a stretched Janome.
    thanks a lot. A custom made machine.............maybe they could also make it running on 220 Volt!? :lol:
    I will send them a mail - asking doesnt cost anything.

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    Until I got a longarm I was very happy quilting in sections. (This is not the same as QAYG.) You might give that a try.

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    I don't know how much money you are prepared to spend on a machine, but I bought a new 1600DPX, on-line from a Janome dealer in California. I paid somewhere around $750, and included were a sewing box, a cloth guide & several specialized feet. My local Janome/Viking/Bernina dealer wouldn't or couldn't come close to matching that price.

    The 1600 has feed dogs, but they do not drop, so for FMQ, you also have to buy the plate & darning foot combo. (not very expensive); I got that from my local dealer.

    Part 2 of the story is that, at the time I bought the 1600, I had a 12-ft. Grace Next Generation quilt frame in the basement; I bought the 1600 to go onto that frame. Unfortunately, before I could even get used to the whole arrangement, I lost that basement space to my son, who lost his job in the housing industry and needed to move back home.

    Part 3 of the story is: I have a small room in the basement where my cutting table & fabric storage are; my son moved a solid wood table into one of the corners of that room. I put the 1600 on that table, surrounded the machine with styrofoam (level with the machine bed), covered the foam with vinyl & added a slider. This set-up works well as a frame "substitute". In fact, with the 1600 on the table, I can utilize all the other features of the machine, which I would not have done while it was set up on the frame. One thing you should know is that this machine (and its equivalent in Viking and Juki) require frequent oiling + a large supply of extra needles is good to have.

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    thank you. I looked at the Janome 1600 but I really would like to go bigger than 9" throat size.

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    I think you might be a candidate for one of the industrial systems & they should be available in Europe. Juki, Consew, Toyota & probably several others. Tailors & decorators use them. The straight stitch only systems don't seem to cost all that much & even come with a table. It's going to be heavy, though so where ever it gets put--that's where it's going to stay. No packing it up and putting it in a closet when you're not quilting.

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    Hi Beverly

    I was looking into those machines also but I think they sew way to fast with those strong motors. And I couldnt figure out whether one can lower the feed dogs :oops:

    I did write to Baileys and will see what they come up with.
    Granny

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    Granny, you might do better to call them -- I have found in the past that they're not very good about answering email.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rivka
    Granny, you might do better to call them -- I have found in the past that they're not very good about answering email.
    Calling from switzerland is quite expensive :oops: so I will wait and see.
    Granny

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