Water disolving applique foundation?
03-18-2011, 04:00 PM
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I think that's the stuff I bought from her website. It's not really water soluble in that it doesn't dissolve completely; it just softens up with washing. It is not a fusible either.
I tried it out but don't like it for myself. I am used to freezer paper applique where you glue the seam allowance to the freezer paper (although I use paste instead of glue). The freezer paper gives a harder edge to turn against. I found SS's stuff much more difficult to use, as it is softer and doesn't give the firm edge I am used to with freezer paper. I wanted to try it because you don't have to remove it later; however, I was not satisfied with the results I got from it. It did not come with any identification on it, so I would have to take it to JoAnn's to compare to what they have in order to figure out what it is.
If you want a small piece to try out, PM me and I will mail you a piece in a business size envelope (original poster only, please, as I cannot afford to mail dozens of these out!). If you like it, maybe you could take whatever you don't use to JoAnn's to figure out what it is (and post here so others know).
Edit: Unless I am mis-understanding the original question, no truly water-soluble stabilizer would work with turned-edge applique; it would dissolve when you apply the glue. The truly water-soluble stabilizers are all used for embroidery, to stabilize the fabric so it doesn't pucker and distort while being machine embroidered.
I tried it out but don't like it for myself. I am used to freezer paper applique where you glue the seam allowance to the freezer paper (although I use paste instead of glue). The freezer paper gives a harder edge to turn against. I found SS's stuff much more difficult to use, as it is softer and doesn't give the firm edge I am used to with freezer paper. I wanted to try it because you don't have to remove it later; however, I was not satisfied with the results I got from it. It did not come with any identification on it, so I would have to take it to JoAnn's to compare to what they have in order to figure out what it is.
If you want a small piece to try out, PM me and I will mail you a piece in a business size envelope (original poster only, please, as I cannot afford to mail dozens of these out!). If you like it, maybe you could take whatever you don't use to JoAnn's to figure out what it is (and post here so others know).
Edit: Unless I am mis-understanding the original question, no truly water-soluble stabilizer would work with turned-edge applique; it would dissolve when you apply the glue. The truly water-soluble stabilizers are all used for embroidery, to stabilize the fabric so it doesn't pucker and distort while being machine embroidered.
03-18-2011, 05:15 PM
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Thanks for the info. :) I was just at Joann's and got several things I need but the washaway didn't look like what she used. The one described as paper-like that doesn't really dissolve but falls apart is correct.
On her videos she uses the Elmer's purple glue stick on the edges of the paper and then irons into the back of the fabric. She says it stiffens the edge since it is a starch product. She then uses another application of the glue stick around the back side of the seam allowance, then turns it over the paper edge where it gets glued down. Heat set again. It certainly looks like it does a good job of turning and stabalizing the edge for machine or hand applique.
Basically the same as using the freezer paper and starch method but you don't have to take out the paper and you use the glue stick instead of starch.
On her videos she uses the Elmer's purple glue stick on the edges of the paper and then irons into the back of the fabric. She says it stiffens the edge since it is a starch product. She then uses another application of the glue stick around the back side of the seam allowance, then turns it over the paper edge where it gets glued down. Heat set again. It certainly looks like it does a good job of turning and stabalizing the edge for machine or hand applique.
Basically the same as using the freezer paper and starch method but you don't have to take out the paper and you use the glue stick instead of starch.
03-18-2011, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Prism99
I think that's the stuff I bought from her website. It's not really water soluble in that it doesn't dissolve completely; it just softens up with washing. It is not a fusible either.
I tried it out but don't like it for myself. I am used to freezer paper applique where you glue the seam allowance to the freezer paper (although I use paste instead of glue). The freezer paper gives a harder edge to turn against. I found SS's stuff much more difficult to use, as it is softer and doesn't give the firm edge I am used to with freezer paper. I wanted to try it because you don't have to remove it later; however, I was not satisfied with the results I got from it. It did not come with any identification on it, so I would have to take it to JoAnn's to compare to what they have in order to figure out what it is.
If you want a small piece to try out, PM me and I will mail you a piece in a business size envelope (original poster only, please, as I cannot afford to mail dozens of these out!). If you like it, maybe you could take whatever you don't use to JoAnn's to figure out what it is (and post here so others know).
Edit: Unless I am mis-understanding the original question, no truly water-soluble stabilizer would work with turned-edge applique; it would dissolve when you apply the glue. The truly water-soluble stabilizers are all used for embroidery, to stabilize the fabric so it doesn't pucker and distort while being machine embroidered.
I tried it out but don't like it for myself. I am used to freezer paper applique where you glue the seam allowance to the freezer paper (although I use paste instead of glue). The freezer paper gives a harder edge to turn against. I found SS's stuff much more difficult to use, as it is softer and doesn't give the firm edge I am used to with freezer paper. I wanted to try it because you don't have to remove it later; however, I was not satisfied with the results I got from it. It did not come with any identification on it, so I would have to take it to JoAnn's to compare to what they have in order to figure out what it is.
If you want a small piece to try out, PM me and I will mail you a piece in a business size envelope (original poster only, please, as I cannot afford to mail dozens of these out!). If you like it, maybe you could take whatever you don't use to JoAnn's to figure out what it is (and post here so others know).
Edit: Unless I am mis-understanding the original question, no truly water-soluble stabilizer would work with turned-edge applique; it would dissolve when you apply the glue. The truly water-soluble stabilizers are all used for embroidery, to stabilize the fabric so it doesn't pucker and distort while being machine embroidered.
Here's the first block I did using this method, working on the second...
03-18-2011, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pittsburgpam
Thanks for the info. :) I was just at Joann's and got several things I need but the washaway didn't look like what she used. The one described as paper-like that doesn't really dissolve but falls apart is correct.
On her videos she uses the Elmer's purple glue stick on the edges of the paper and then irons into the back of the fabric. She says it stiffens the edge since it is a starch product. She then uses another application of the glue stick around the back side of the seam allowance, then turns it over the paper edge where it gets glued down. Heat set again. It certainly looks like it does a good job of turning and stabalizing the edge for machine or hand applique.
Basically the same as using the freezer paper and starch method but you don't have to take out the paper and you use the glue stick instead of starch.
On her videos she uses the Elmer's purple glue stick on the edges of the paper and then irons into the back of the fabric. She says it stiffens the edge since it is a starch product. She then uses another application of the glue stick around the back side of the seam allowance, then turns it over the paper edge where it gets glued down. Heat set again. It certainly looks like it does a good job of turning and stabalizing the edge for machine or hand applique.
Basically the same as using the freezer paper and starch method but you don't have to take out the paper and you use the glue stick instead of starch.
03-18-2011, 05:36 PM
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I have been a member of her site for a year and this is a new thing there. I've seen the Piecelique ones where she uses freezer paper, starch to turn, then Elmer's to glue it down.
Regular Elmer's school glue (the white liquid in a bottle) is still used to glue down the applique pieces. I want to try it for hand applique and just glue down the entire block then I can take it with me wherever.
I bought a bobbin box that holds 25 bobbins. I have several sets of very fine applique thread on bobbins so I can just put it all in a tote.
Regular Elmer's school glue (the white liquid in a bottle) is still used to glue down the applique pieces. I want to try it for hand applique and just glue down the entire block then I can take it with me wherever.
I bought a bobbin box that holds 25 bobbins. I have several sets of very fine applique thread on bobbins so I can just put it all in a tote.
03-18-2011, 05:43 PM
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The Piecelique is done with the foundation stuff too, not with freezer paper.
I just watched her blue bird video so now I understand how she is using it for hand applique. I'm thinking it would also work better for machine applique because of the stiffer edge. The purple glue stick seems to be key to stiffening the foundation edges. I am going to try it!
I just watched her blue bird video so now I understand how she is using it for hand applique. I'm thinking it would also work better for machine applique because of the stiffer edge. The purple glue stick seems to be key to stiffening the foundation edges. I am going to try it!
03-18-2011, 06:10 PM
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I think the glue would be difficult to hand applique (as in needle turn) through. It dries pretty stiff/hard. That's what bolsters the foundation even more so you have a good edge to turn against. Maybe it can be done, if you have a good thimble. :)
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