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Thread: What am I doing wrong?

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    Junior Member AZTeri's Avatar
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    What am I doing wrong?

    I keep trying to FMQ on my Singer Futura II Model 920 machine. I covered the feed dogs, dropped the presser foot (foot removed), played with the tension... yet... the thread does NOT pull up and catch the bobbin. What am I doing wrong?

    If I use my even feed foot and keep the dogs up, I can sort of fmq, but it's not the same. Perhaps that's what I'm left with though. Sigh.
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    I would try putting in a new needle and/or rethreading your machine and see if that helps...hope so!

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    I haven't tried this, but I have friends that leave the feed dogs up and put their stitch length to "0", might be worth a shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by patchsamkim View Post
    I would try putting in a new needle and/or rethreading your machine and see if that helps...hope so!
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    i would double check that the presser foot is down...it is easy to miss with the foot off... and the symptoms really sound like that... and bjbaxter's idea sounded like a good idea to try...

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    Put in a new needle, re-thread, and also check that your bobbin is in correctly....good luck!
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    I have not heard of taking off the foot. I leave mine on. I suggest retheading and making sure your bobbin is seated right. Ask me how I know!
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    I don't think it would work without a darning foot on. I think the machine needs one to complete the stitch?

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    You need some thing to hold the fabric down for the thread to catch. Are you using a darning or other style hopping foot? You could also try using a spring needle instead of a foot to push the fabric down at just the right time.

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    I could only ever get my tension right on my Brother with the feed dogs up. You should still be able to FMQ.
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    I'm pretty sure the problem is because you're not using a foot. You need a darning type foot or any type of foot with a spring in it ("jumping" foot). Your machine is probably a typical short-shank machine. What you can do is take its regular foot with you to JoAnn's or a sewing machine dealership in order to find the right shank darning foot for your machine. I know that some instruction manuals say you can work without a foot, but I think it causes the problem you are having with bringing up the bobbin thread. You could try covering the feed dogs and using your regular foot (not your walking foot) and see if that allows you to bring up the thread. The problem with the regular foot is that it continuously presses down on the fabric, interfering with your ability to move the quilt sandwich freely. A jumping foot presses on the fabric only during stitch formation and lifts up in-between stitches to allow you to move the quilt freely.

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    You need some type of foot to help hold the fabric down. Your local joanns sells a free motion foot for that machine, its around $12. I have a singer futura 250 and it has never done very well at free motion. I finally gave up and purchased a new machine. Good luck!

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    I have found that one of my machines newer computerize needs to have a foot on due to the sensors in it and will not work without one, while my oldie but goody one with no computer will work without a foot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjbaxter View Post
    I haven't tried this, but I have friends that leave the feed dogs up and put their stitch length to "0", might be worth a shot.
    This is the method that works the best for me with my machine. Give it a try and see if it helps. Good luck.
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    you need a free-motion foot (sometimes called a hopping foot- or a darning foot) the machine is not (recognizing) what you are trying to do- because you do not have a foot on for it to identify
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    This has me a bit confused. When I FMQ, I lower the feed dogs and change the presser foot to a darning foot then set the stitch length to "0". You state you remove the presser foot. You need to have some kind of foot on the machine.
    Are you doing free motion or stitch in the ditch? You have to have some kind of foot on the machine. Hope this helps a little.

    Prism99 has the right info!
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    I would think that you need a darning foot. I always have my feed dogs down. I use a top stitch needle.

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    I have 2 machines & I always leave my feed dogs up on both of them. You probably need to invest in a free motion-spring type foot. I've seen them on different sites starting at about $7.00 & up.

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    I don't think a darning foot is necessary to "hold" the fabric down because it doesn't come in contact with the fabric. I have an old (over 20 years!) Singer Quantum LE. It works without a darning foot when the feed dogs are covered, but also works with a darning foot when the feed dogs are uncovered. Go figure!
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    They apparently don't make a darning foot for my machine, at least that is what I've been told. However, I did put my regular foot back on, loosened the tension setting to "darn" and it worked Not sure if I'm ready to really give it a go on a well-pieced quilt just yet, but I'll practice some and hopefully soon be able to try!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZTeri View Post
    They apparently don't make a darning foot for my machine, at least that is what I've been told. However, I did put my regular foot back on, loosened the tension setting to "darn" and it worked Not sure if I'm ready to really give it a go on a well-pieced quilt just yet, but I'll practice some and hopefully soon be able to try!
    If you can't get a FMQ foot to fit your machine you can buy a specialty needle called a spring needle. They look like a regular needle with a spring wrapped around it. It works in place of the foot. It also has the advantage of giving you a full view of your quilting space. The down side is that I can't use the auto needle threader with this needle and have to thread it the old fashioned way.

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