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Thread: What is causing these "birds nests" under my fabric??? Please help!

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    I recently had this same problem when quilting my DGD's quilt. I finally discovered what the problem was. I was using prewound bobbins, and perodically the thread on the bobbin was crossed and became too tight, that caused the tension on the bobbin thread to pull and the top thread to birds nest. Sometimes the thread would pull loose, and sew on ok. I finally figured it out after the bobbin thread broke a few times and I actually saw the crossed thread on it.
    Anyone else have problems with prewound bobbins?

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    I found that I got nests when I didn't hold the top thread tight while threading the top.

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    Mine was nesting, and it turned out to be the bobbin tension, which I had never changed. So one day I sat down, and did all of the above, and finally the last thing I did was change the tension on the bobbin. It works fine now. So it's probably something simple. Hang in there!

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    I find if you hang on to the threads when you start to sew it doesn't do that.

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    Neat way to troubleshoot!!

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    Can anyone post a picture of this?

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    Just a different idea. Same happens to me sometimes, After I check thread, bobbin, etc., I change the type of thread. One of my machines uses C & C. The others I can use Gutterman's. Strange but true.
    Debbie

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    I would thoroughly clean around the bobbin area, change the bobbin, change the needle, make sure the machine is threaded properly, and if all that failed, I go see my machine repairman! It's usually something we haven't done right though, sad to say. Why oh why do these things happen right in the middle our special creations!!!

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    Yes, re-thread, clean bobbin area...but I also use the Magic Bobbin Washer by Schumacher...Susan Schumacher made it just for this very reason- no more bird nests for me.
    Blessings,
    MaryAnna

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    When I have a similar problem, I change the bobbin....Don't know why but this seems to work.

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    1. Be sure needle and thread and fabric are compatible. Right size needle, thread content and wt and is fabric 100% cotton or a combination.
    2. Always use a new needle on a new project.
    3. Clean bobbin area and oil where manual indicates.
    4. Re-thread needle and bobbin.
    5. Hold both needle and bobbin threads for several stitches.
    If doing all of the above fails, it time to take machine in for repair! I hate it when this happens, but in my case it is usually operator error! Don't give up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseP
    This seems to be happening more and more lately until yesterday I wanted to go into the cellar and get my husband's biggest hammer and do something I proabably would have regretted, but at the same time would have been sooooooo satisfying.
    I have a Brother machine that will not kindly accept any off-brand bobbins. If I do not have the correct bobbin in my machine it does the "birds nest" stitch. Getting rid of all the wrong bobbins I'd used with my other machines got rid of the birds' nest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trolleystation
    When I have a similar problem, I change the bobbin....Don't know why but this seems to work.
    If you have a Brother machine, that's probably the problem - wrong bobbin.

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    About two weeks ago, I had the same thing happen, first once, then every time I moved. I took it to 'the shop' to see if I was doing something wrong and after much trial and error, they decided to keep it. It turned out a tiny piece (size of a plain pin head) had worn off and needed to be re placed. the patient is out of the hospital and doing fine.
    Mary

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnajean
    Change needle & rethread both spool & bobbin - usually works.


    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseP
    This seems to be happening more and more lately until yesterday I wanted to go into the cellar and get my husband's biggest hammer and do something I proabably would have regretted, but at the same time would have been sooooooo satisfying.
    While doing this, use a piece of fresh thread to GENTLY floss between the tension plates, also.

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    This happened to me about a month ago!! It was horrible and took hours to figure out. I have a Brothers machine. When I changed out the bobbin, it did not set tension correctly. Yes, the thread was going thru, and I could see it, but it was kinda swingy( is that a word?) birds nest like crazy, Just keep taking the bobbin in and out, be sure and hold the bobbin in PLACE!!!!!! when ur setting ur thread. and really be careful when u feed it thru the auto-matic tensioner. really follow it thru! It would never work by just feeding it thru with the needle! that thread should be tight before feeding tru the needle/sewing part. If u have a brother machine and u can't get it to work, private message me and I would call u on my cell. PS if ur qa new sewer write down where every thing is set before u start adjusting the tensions!!!!!!

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    Yeah! sounds like a tension problem... BUT, a quick look for dust and debris under the presser foot area is my first line of attack. Good luck.

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    I was having the nesting underneath problem so I asked my instructor that teaches our embroidery and sewing club at out local sewing machine and fabric dealer. She said nesting below is due to improper threading above; to be sure the lever is up for the pressure foot and pull the thread tightly through from both ends so there is not any play in the thread, then put the presser bar down to sew. I hope this helps. Vernell in Austin

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    Another thing that can cause nesting is haveing the presser foot down when threading. If the presser foot is down the tension disks are together and the thread is just sitting on top therefore bad tension. So make sure your presser foot is up while threading.

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    ok this has happened to me just recently and I have been sewing for years but never had this problem. I checked everything I could think of the bobbin, top thread all looked OK so I even took the bobbin out un-threaded it and re done that. I took the whole machine apart and did the whole maintenance thing, you know the oiling, cleaning and such.
    Started sewing again, after a few stitches it did it again. Hammer was ready to give it it's last rights then I looked at the top thread and found it had wrapped itself around the top guide in such a way that it formed a loop and would not let the thread run freely. I have never had any thread do this before but I had bought a large spool of serger thread so I wouldn't have to change it so often and it has been the worst thread I have ever had. I have even tried putting it on a thread stand by itself but it still tangles itself round different parts of the machine while I sew and every time I try to wind a bobbin it flings itself so wildly it is unbelievable. So I would check to be sure this is not happening to you as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseP
    This seems to be happening more and more lately until yesterday I wanted to go into the cellar and get my husband's biggest hammer and do something I proabably would have regretted, but at the same time would have been sooooooo satisfying.
    Give your machine a good dusting with a large brush - especially in the bobbin race, and make sure that there is no hidden bit of thread caught there. Change the actual bobbin as well. Change the needle and make sure you re - thread from the beginning. If nothing is hindering the flow of the thread, you may have lint in the tension disc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizzy
    Be sure that you are bringing your bobbin thread up to the top where you are beginning to sew or you will have a mess of thread underneath your fabrics.. Hope that helps.
    Ditto and also use a walking foot if you have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeniseP
    This seems to be happening more and more lately until yesterday I wanted to go into the cellar and get my husband's biggest hammer and do something I proabably would have regretted, but at the same time would have been sooooooo satisfying.
    An old friend of mine told me that to cut your thread from the spool, and pull the thread thru, which is like flossing your machine. Then take the bobbin out, and clean under and around your bobbin area. Then change the needle and thread your machine. Next, is put your pressure foot down half way, if that is required on your machine to free motion quilt. Bet the problem will be solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjomomma
    Also clean your bobbin area.
    My thought also. I would even do further and remove the plate and get all the accumulated "stuff" out. Might be worth a service call for cleaning.

    Also, you might want to start with a "thread saver".
    When you come to the end of a seam, run a scrap fabric through and snip your initial piece off, leaving the scrap under the needle. When you begin to sew your next piece, there will be no loose thread to get caught and create your "birds nest".
    Good luck.

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    Clean it, oil it, rethread top and bottom, then try adjusting the tension if none of that works, otherwise, you may need to have it serviced. Good luck

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