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Thread: What I heard at JoAnn's store today

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    Look, WalMart took out most of it's fabric departments, then put a lot of them back in, even if in a limited capacity. They obviously see the value and profit of having a fabric department.
    Most Wal-Marts have leased spaces already. Fast food, eye doctor, hair stylists, nail salons, etc. It's not much of a stretch to see a fabric store inside too. Probably depends on how much Joann's is willing to pay to lease the space. Let's face it, it all comes down to money.

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    Look at it from a logistics and accounting point of view. All the mentioned lessors...glasses, hair salons, hearing aids, fast food, etc...are in small, separate spaces on the edges of the Walmart central floor. Any contracted space to something like JoAnn's would also be put on the edge and therefore in a very limited, individually lockable, space.

    Walmart isn't going to rent out space in the middle of their retail area, only on the edges. It's too much of an accounting nightmare to do it any other way (and Walmart is all about the accounting). They want them in separate little boxes, with separate space costs, security, cleaning, staffing, hours, etc.

    Would JoAnn's agree to set up in such limited edge space? Or, if given the option to lease on the central floor, would they agree to staff 'their' area for ALL of Walmart's open hours (24/7 here)? Walmart is certainly not going to staff it, or secure it, or clean it, etc. It just doesn't make sense from a practical standpoint for either company.

    The JoAnn's here is physically expanding, broke through a wall into the store next door, and turning into a superstore. The expansion is for art/craft supplies, not fabric. They're certainly not going to 'dilute' their market by spreading out to Walmart.
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    Wal-Mart used to lease space to different business. The shoe belonged to a separate company, as well as several other departments. No they are all owened by Walmart stores. There are not even separate divisions. This rumor was going around about 10 years ago, when most of the stores still had fabric. My Joanns did not know anything about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MamaInRed View Post
    I noticed when I was recently in Wal-Mart fabric department they had added a very small line of Designer Home decorating fabrics. I thought it was kind of odd considering how small the department is now to waste the space with more expensive fabric.

    I truly hope it is only a rumor. Our JoAnn's has gone down hill. What they carry is not always great & they are far to expensive. It is rare you can even use an in store coupon, as items are alwasy on sale.
    I, too, hope it is only a rumor! I love to shop Walmart's fabric; it is certainly more economical than JoAnns, even with JoAnn's coupons, and as said above, they put so many of their fabrics on sale that you can rarely use a coupon, unless it is on their $9.99 to #12.99 a yard. Also, JoAnn's fat quarters are so thin you can practically see through them.
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    Husqvarna Viking has outlets in JoAnn stores and Subway in our Walmart store. Also, there can be banks, vision stores, etc.

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    hope that doesn't happen here. I like my WalMart fabric section better than JoAnn's. Personally I think JoAnn's has very poor quality fabric except for fleece which is too high priced. I hate the damn coupon scam at JoAnn's!

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    Our WalMart has quite a selection of fabrics, notions, craft and yarn stuff.... and Joann's is so expensive.. most of the time what you want is on sale alittle but then you can't use coupons...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mme3924 View Post
    I don't understand this repeated assertion that Wal-Mart has poor fabric. Maybe some Wal-Marts but our stores have always had good fabrics. The oldest store took it's fabric out for awhile but it's back now and the newest store (less than 2 years old) has always had some great fabric, 100% cotton, tightly woven, doesn't shrink excessively.....and it is much cheaper than the VERY SAME fabric at Jo-Ann's. About a year ago I bought some 100% cotton (green background with white dots) for $2.00 yd at Wal-Mart. It cut and sewed up beautifully. I loved it so much I went back and bought more just to have in my stash. Six months later Jo-Ann's had the same fabric at $5.99 yd. Fat quarters bought at Wal-Mart compare in every way to those bought at Jo-Ann's except in price: $.99 at Wal-Mart; $1.99 at Jo-Ann's.

    Having said all that I still shop at Jo-Ann's; it's nearer and I can use coupons. But I don't hesitate to buy fabric at Wal-Mart, either. Some of it is better than fabric available at Jo-Ann's, and most of it is at least equal and much cheaper. We no longer have LQSs nor a Cloth World (do they still exist?) nor a Hancock's so those are not options. We do have Hobby Lobby--not very convenient to me--and of course if we choose to, we can drive 35 miles to Dallas--and get anything we want there. But in the meantime, I love that Wal-Mart has fabric!
    The Walmart about 2 miles from my house has limited fabric. Some very nice and some not so nice. Prices a little higher than I would expect. But I have a Walmart about 20 minutes from my house that has a fabrics department that puts Joann's to shame and for that matter almost any store selling fabric in the area. The store manager said he set his best employee as "manager" (there are only department manager for a few departments). She orders fabrics and notions that are very good quality. I walked in the first time and was just in awe. Absolutely fantastic fabrics. The Joann's the next block over looks like a junk shop compaired to that Walmart. Joann's coupons are worthless. They send out these fantastic coupons that are worthless since they cannot be used on sale items...and conviently, everything is at least 10% off.

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    Adding my two cents to JoAnns at WalMart. First of all we do not have any fabric departments at the
    Walmarts around me and that includes about six WalMarts. I do not see where there would be a space but I spose the powers that be could squeeze one in. Second thought is my experience with JoAnns is that they have really gone down hill lately so perhaps are looking for a new venture. The store is often out of stock and the fabric has gotten more expensive but the quality is even worse. Could happen but not much of an advantage to quilters.

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    I heard this same RUMOR years ago .....I guess anything is possible

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    It is not uncommon for a specialty store to "rent space" in a big box store or even a department store. My DH was in retail for lots of years and many of the book, fabric and furniture departments were, sort of, sublet to specialty companies. JoAnn's will pay for the space and provide the product but Walmart will set the guidelines. That may be why Walmart, and others, let fabrics go, they didn't make the same amount of profit in these sublet depts. However, what they failed to realize is that fabric and crafts have a tremendous customer draw.
    I keep remembering how many LQS closed when fabrics went into Walmart and how desperate we quilters became when several years later, Walmart closed that department. In my area it left us in a bind and they did not care one bit. It is all about the bottom line with them. We did everything but chain ourselves to the cutting table at my local Walmart in an attempt to get them to keep fabrics and no one even listened. I do hope we don't give them the chance to do that again. I know I will shop some in the fabric dept. we have been promised in our Walmart, but I also will keep shopping at my LQS.



    Quote Originally Posted by Gramie bj View Post
    As far as I know Joann and Wal Mart are separate stores, don't see this happening unless one bought out the other.
    Last edited by topstitch; 02-07-2013 at 04:19 AM.

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    I hope not, I am finding that the quality at Wal Mart far surpasses the quality at JoAnns in Denver anyway. I quit shopping at JoAnn's awhile back over quality issues! That and the wonderful coupons you can't use because everything is on sale anyway for much more than the coupon would allow! Now that is someones advertising genious showing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by calicojoan View Post
    I hope not, I am finding that the quality at Wal Mart far surpasses the quality at JoAnns in Denver anyway. I quit shopping at JoAnn's awhile back over quality issues! That and the wonderful coupons you can't use because everything is on sale anyway for much more than the coupon would allow! Now that is someones advertising genious showing!

    The Jo-Ann's coupons are basically a bait and switch scheme. I intended to use a coupon recently to buy the Quickly Quilting magazine ($9.99) but couldn't because it was "on sale" for $8.99. I bought it anyway but you're right about Jo Ann's coupons; not as wonderful as they first appear.

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    It is "all about the bottom line" with pretty much everybody. That's what business is all about. Even a store that really caters to customer service, hiring and training caring personnel, it's not about making people happy alone. It's about making money. If you are all about being nice to people or making them happy, without doing the math as well, you are running a nonprofit. All the LQS in my area, and that includes a 50 mile radius in three states, do really make an effort to make you happy. But if they stop making a profit, they are gone. Making money is not always a bad thing. However, big boxes putting little stores out of business is unfortunately is what makes big money. It's the customers who suffer in the long run.
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    JoAnn's

    I think the pharmacy is contracted, too.

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    I would be happy just to get fabric back in my Walmart.
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    We are getting a new Joanns here in Corbin,Ky. Separate from Wally world. Thank goodness!

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    I wouldn't be suprised, the walmart stores have either got rid of the fabric or downsized and raised prices. I haven't been able to find any decent fabric there for a long time that wasn't about the same price as Joanns.

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    I have seen the same fat quarters at Joann's and at Walmart. What's with that....
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    since Wally World is the only show in town, that might be nice...however, our fabric selection is pretty darn good...in fact it has gotten better and better AT LAST

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    Fabric in my local Walmart is very nice. The fabric dept manager is a quilter and orders all the good stuff. The manager has the option to add to the standing order. If they tell you they don't, they just don't want to do the extra work or in most cases have no idea what fabric to order anyway.
    Got fabric?

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    Lets hope they just expand this department but keep prices low.

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    I see some fabrics already at Walmart that you can find at Jo anns, they are cheaper at Walmart too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carol34446 View Post
    Wal Mart got rid of some fabric departments and a class action law suit MADE them put them back, ladies said if they have sporting goods we we want fabric/crafts so they have put some back in.
    Carol, can you point us to documentation on your comment?
    I think the days when women were expected to sew and men to fish went out about 60 years ago. Thank heavens.

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    Wal Mart got rid of some fabric departments and a class action law suit MADE them put them back, ladies said if they have sporting goods we we want fabric/crafts so they have put some back in.

    I doubt very seriously that is what happened.
    There are just as many women into sporting goods as men. And Walmart doesn't care about catering to any one gender. Walmart fabric customers getting together to file a class action? I don't see it but would love to see any documentation about it.
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