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    Senior Member Tinabug's Avatar
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    I cannot find out when this machine was made or where to buy a cover plate and spool spindle. Don't know what it's worth, but it's green and I like it. I hope I can get it stitching. The serial # is B42416. The cover on the case is a dull green faux reptile look. It must have be very cool in its' day. Almost looks art decco with the pin striping. Anything I find out will be good, I only know it supposedly belonged to the seller's family. Paid $40.

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    It's a "clone" of the Singer 15, probably Japanese and from the early 50's. :)

    Jenny at sew-classic.com carries the replacement parts - I would replace the motor, foot control and cords - you can also get some TriFlo liquid, good quality metal bobbins, spool pins, (she has both tap-in and screw-in types) a bobbin cover plate and some spool felts. I like the spool pins that have holes in the top - that way, I can use my cone thread on a stand and thread the machine through the hole in the spool pin instead of taping a darning needle or safety pin to the machine. :)

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    It does say Made in Japan on the Medallion and at the top of the medallion it says Los Angeles. I plugged it in to see if the light worked and it did. But the cord is flaking and exposing the copper wire, so it's a danger. I will contact Jenny and get the recommended items. Otherwise the body is in fine condition. It was too cute to pass up. Will Jenny know what motor to put on it or can I get that from my local sewing machine shop?
    Thanks for helping me out thepolyparrot! :-)

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    I love green too, so probably would of been tempted myself. I just have too many machines already (did I say that?) can't believe that came out of my keyboard. I am going to wash my fingers out with soap!! LOL

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    $40.... sweeeet....

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    Wow! What a beautiful machine, love the green!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepolyparrot
    It's a "clone" of the Singer 15, probably Japanese and from the early 50's. :)
    That's what I was thinking too--the back end looks like my 15 but it has a bobbin case set up like my 66... Thanks for the heads up about the spool pin. I've been rigging up stuff so I can use my cone thread! :thumbup:

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    The Japanese-manufactured Singer clones were made very well from all I've read about them - specs were tight to meet American standards.
    Have fun w/ your new toy.

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    What a beauty! I loooove it! You should call her the Green-eyed Monster--you're bound to get a lot of envy!

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    I do believe Polyparrot is correct. Lots of those types made and a lot were very good machines, we are finding out now. Looks like it is in good shape, probably will do you well.

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    Does it run? Why would it need a motor if it hasn't been checked out yet, I am wondering.

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    Take the motor to a rebuild shop and have it checked - cheaper and they know what they are doing. That one is very pretty. I love the details on it.

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    That is the machine my Grandmother had and it was made in 50's. She did contract sewing for some company and that was the machine she had. I got to sew on it a few times. It purred like a kitten and the throat of the machine could fit a lot of fabric. My uncle took the machine when my Grandmother passed away and he did sewing with it.

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    I bet the motor is just fine. You just need a new cord set. I recently had to replace the cords on my Singer 201 and it wasn't expensive. Exposed broken wires on old machines can give you a nasty shock and even catch on fire.

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    Love the color!

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    Actually, this is one case where buying a replacement motor is much cheaper than getting the old one rebuilt. ;)

    A new motor of this type costs $22.

    The last time I asked about it, to rebuild this type of motor costs $70-120.

    I always recommend replacing the motors and electrical components for a machine like this because I grew up as a fire chief's daughter and I'm paranoid about electricity. :)

    I like the safety of the new electrical and I like the fact that the motor hasn't been sitting around for 50 years collecting dust and cigarette smoke and humidity. There's no weird smoking when you run them and no odd smells. There's no drag on the bearings from 50-year old lubrication. A lot of convenience for $22.

    When I get a new 15-91 or 201, I send my motors to Jenny at sew-classic.com to have them rebuilt/rewired. It's a lot more expensive, but they're not making motors of that type any more, so it's the only option.

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    Bernie, I didn't notice the bobbin at first, but now that I look at this again, of course it has the horizontal bobbin and the front facing tensioner. So it's not like the usual clones that copy the 15-90/91 - this is like a cross between the 15 and the 201. I've never noticed one like this before. :)

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    Tinabug, did this machine have a bobbin in it? It looks like it takes a class 66 bobbin, like the 201.

    It's a really pretty color - I remember my grandmother had a bunch of kitchen utensils with this color enamel on the handles. Very retro. :)

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    No bobbins or cover was included. The motor is a Bell Universal 1/15 h.p. It looks in good shape, of course all I see is the outside. The machine is really clean underneath and I'm really excited to get it sewing again. It does look very retro and I'm impressed with the finish on it. I connected it when I first got it and it was raring to sew! I was standing away at first and then I could not help but press the foot peddle. Off she took! I've got her named. In Southern California at the beach there are rare times during the setting sun when it drops below the ocean and a visible green flash appears briefly. So that's her name The Green Flash!

    Quote Originally Posted by thepolyparrot
    Actually, this is one case where buying a replacement motor is much cheaper than getting the old one rebuilt. ;)

    A new motor of this type costs $22.

    The last time I asked about it, to rebuild this type of motor costs $70-120.

    I always recommend replacing the motors and electrical components for a machine like this because I grew up as a fire chief's daughter and I'm paranoid about electricity. :)

    I like the safety of the new electrical and I like the fact that the motor hasn't been sitting around for 50 years collecting dust and cigarette smoke and humidity. There's no weird smoking when you run them and no odd smells. There's no drag on the bearings from 50-year old lubrication. A lot of convenience for $22.

    When I get a new 15-91 or 201, I send my motors to Jenny at sew-classic.com to have them rebuilt/rewired. It's a lot more expensive, but they're not making motors of that type any more, so it's the only option.

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    Bernie, I didn't notice the bobbin at first, but now that I look at this again, of course it has the horizontal bobbin and the front facing tensioner. So it's not like the usual clones that copy the 15-90/91 - this is like a cross between the 15 and the 201. I've never noticed one like this before. :)

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    Tinabug, did this machine have a bobbin in it? It looks like it takes a class 66 bobbin, like the 201.

    It's a really pretty color - I remember my grandmother had a bunch of kitchen utensils with this color enamel on the handles. Very retro. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepolyparrot
    It's a "clone" of the Singer 15, probably Japanese and from the early 50's. :)

    Jenny at sew-classic.com carries the replacement parts - I would replace the motor, foot control and cords - you can also get some TriFlo liquid, good quality metal bobbins, spool pins, (she has both tap-in and screw-in types) a bobbin cover plate and some spool felts. I like the spool pins that have holes in the top - that way, I can use my cone thread on a stand and thread the machine through the hole in the spool pin instead of taping a darning needle or safety pin to the machine. :)
    Yes, to Jenny at sew-classic may have your missing parts.

    No, to that is a clone Singer 15.
    It's a clone Singer 66. The tension dial is in the front like the 66s and the bobbin area is just like the 66s.

    Hate to see you order replacement parts for a 15 and find they don't fit. You need the parts for a 66.

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    This is not a Singer 15 clone...the tensioner is one the front rather than on the face plate, so that makes it something else. I agree that it's a 66 clone.

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    I corrected my first impression a few posts back.

    It's not a 66 clone - it's a cross between a 15 and a 201 or a 66.

    It has the bobbin and hook of 201 or 66 and the stitch length & reverse of the 15.

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    I LOVE it!!!!! :-D That green is awesome!!

    I started my addiction...ooops, I mean my collection....with the old black Singers but have now branched out to the wonderful selection of colored vintage Brother and White machines. The variety of colors is amazing!

    Quote Originally Posted by thepolyparrot
    When I get a new 15-91 or 201, I send my motors to Jenny at sew-classic.com to have them rebuilt/rewired. It's a lot more expensive, but they're not making motors of that type any more, so it's the only option.
    I didn't know that Jenny would rebuild motors. I'll have to check it out. I'm nervous about fire, also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabbagepatchkid
    I LOVE it!!!!! :-D That green is awesome!!

    I started my addiction...ooops, I mean my collection....with the old black Singers but have now branched out to the wonderful selection of colored vintage Brother and White machines. The variety of colors is amazing!

    Quote Originally Posted by thepolyparrot
    When I get a new 15-91 or 201, I send my motors to Jenny at sew-classic.com to have them rebuilt/rewired. It's a lot more expensive, but they're not making motors of that type any more, so it's the only option.
    I didn't know that Jenny would rebuild motors. I'll have to check it out. I'm nervous about fire, also.
    The green is what attracted me in the beginning. It was actually in a studio on display. I was happy to get it. Now to just get it working.

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