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QandE2010 10-18-2011 11:33 AM

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My adult daughter asked for a black and white quilt with a white background, with some kind of stars that could be outlined and stippling in the blocks that don’t have stars. The borders will have feathers. She would like it quilted with a light gray variegated thread. She said it will be her “forever “quilt and she can use it with any other colors in her bedroom.
With that in mind, here are 3 pictures of the same blocks on a quilt I am making for her for Christmas. I am at a standstill trying to decide whether to sash or not. Please give reasons for why or why not.
The block is called Hope of Hartford. I actually found the block in my Bernina Designer Plus Quilter Software V6. Then I changed it up to suit me. It is a 10” block set on point. The quilt will be 120” x 120”.
Option 1 is quilt without the sashing would have 4 borders - 2”-black, 2”-white, 2”-black, and 5”-white with black binding.
Option 2 without sashing would have 3 borders – 1”black, 4”-white & 5” black with white binding.
Option 3 is quilt with 1” – white sashing, and 2 borders – 1”- black, and 4” white with black binding.
Thanks for your input and I look forward to your answers. I can’t ask her because, even though she asked for a quilt, she doesn’t know that I am making this at this time and this particular quilt.
Alma

Option 1
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Option 2
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Option 3
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grammy Dwynn 10-18-2011 11:35 AM

NO Sash Black boarder

Lisa_wanna_b_quilter 10-18-2011 11:37 AM

To my eye, option 2 is a more striking quilt. I like the wide black border. Somehow it looks more elegant to me.

KimmieH 10-18-2011 11:38 AM

#2 gets my vote

luvspaper 10-18-2011 11:38 AM

I also vote for Option 2....It will be stunning!

3incollege 10-18-2011 11:39 AM

No. 2 is my choice.

dreamboat 10-18-2011 11:40 AM

option 2

QuiltnNan 10-18-2011 11:40 AM

does your software allow you to remove the outlines of the blocks and patches? my EQ does with a right click on the quilt picture. i think if there were a view that way, it would help with the decision. since it is only black and white fabrics, the outlines make it look like there is an additional design around the blocks. the sashing will float the black background blocks from each other. not sashing will give it a 'harlequin' look. for borders, i like the lighter one, without the wide black.

dakotamaid 10-18-2011 11:45 AM

I agree with most, #2 :)

Jan T 10-18-2011 11:46 AM

My vote goes to number 2.

Sadiemae 10-18-2011 11:46 AM

I also prefer #2.

QuiltE 10-18-2011 11:55 AM

On paper (or should I say, on screen) my first reaction would be #2. For the work of sashing, I don't think you'd accomplish anything if you are doing strictly black and white. Now if you're doing an assortment of B+W and B+W prints, then that could be different.

However .... and JIMHO ... get the blocks made before you make your decision re sashes/borders.

Once you have the real thing in front of you, you can get a very real feel as to what borders are needed, and how wide.

There is no need to decide now (again JIMHO) !!!

Granny Quilter 10-18-2011 12:00 PM

I like #2

RenaB 10-18-2011 12:00 PM

#2 is my favorite too!

belmer 10-18-2011 12:02 PM

Option 2

pheasantduster 10-18-2011 12:02 PM

I'd go with #2 - so striking and rich looking. Please post when finished.

MamaQuilter 10-18-2011 12:05 PM

I also personally prefer the #2 but they all look great.:)

blondeslave 10-18-2011 12:08 PM

definitely #2

QandE2010 10-18-2011 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by QuiltE
On paper (or should I say, on screen) my first reaction would be #2. For the work of sashing, I don't think you'd accomplish anything if you are doing strictly black and white. Now if you're doing an assortment of B+W and B+W prints, then that could be different.

However .... and JIMHO ... get the blocks made before you make your decision re sashes/borders.

Once you have the real thing in front of you, you can get a very real feel as to what borders are needed, and how wide.

There is no need to decide now (again JIMHO) !!!

I do have all the Blocks made and they are solid black and solid white, but thought it would be easier just looking at the design on paper. But you have a point. I'll lay them on the floor and let my furbabies check them out. LOL.

CajunQuilter2 10-18-2011 12:28 PM

#2 popped out to me.....good luck deciding

sharoney 10-18-2011 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by Lisa_wanna_b_quilter
To my eye, option 2 is a more striking quilt. I like the wide black border. Somehow it looks more elegant to me.

I agree

Murphy 10-18-2011 12:37 PM

I like Option 1. I think the heavier border on Option 2 will become dated (IMHO).

QandE2010 10-18-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by QuiltnNan
does your software allow you to remove the outlines of the blocks and patches? my EQ does with a right click on the quilt picture. i think if there were a view that way, it would help with the decision. since it is only black and white fabrics, the outlines make it look like there is an additional design around the blocks. the sashing will float the black background blocks from each other. not sashing will give it a 'harlequin' look. for borders, i like the lighter one, without the wide black.

Thank you so much. I did not know it, but YES, my software does allow the outlines to be removed. I did that and it gives it an entirely different look, as you mentioned. I am going to try to add those pictures and delete the first ones. Wish me luck.

Option 2 without lines
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Option 3 without lines
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Option 1 without the lines
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Becca Bear 10-18-2011 12:41 PM

Option #2

snicker dee 10-18-2011 12:49 PM

Option 2 gets my vote

QuiltE 10-18-2011 12:59 PM

Someone once said that borders should never be the same size. OK, there's not rules ... however, since then, I've watched that, and have noted the ones I like better/worse seem to follow that thought.

Just a thought .... for Option 2, play with the widths of the borders a bit. I think you'd get just a wee bit more wow-power if the wider black border was just a tad wider!

QuiltnNan 10-18-2011 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by QandE2010

Originally Posted by QuiltnNan
does your software allow you to remove the outlines of the blocks and patches? my EQ does with a right click on the quilt picture. i think if there were a view that way, it would help with the decision. since it is only black and white fabrics, the outlines make it look like there is an additional design around the blocks. the sashing will float the black background blocks from each other. not sashing will give it a 'harlequin' look. for borders, i like the lighter one, without the wide black.

Thank you so much. I did not know it, but YES, my software does allow the outlines to be removed. I did that and it gives it an entirely different look, as you mentioned. I am going to try to add those pictures and delete the first ones. Wish me luck.

i'm so glad i could help. yes, the look is so different. but i was wrong about the 'harlequin' thing. now, i the sashing separates your border diamonds from the blocks. i like option 3 without lines. be sure to post once you finish
:)

QandE2010 10-18-2011 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by QuiltE
Someone once said that borders should never be the same size. OK, there's not rules ... however, since then, I've watched that, and have noted the ones I like better/worse seem to follow that thought.

Just a thought .... for Option 2, play with the widths of the borders a bit. I think you'd get just a wee bit more wow-power if the wider black border was just a tad wider!

I changed the borders on option 2 to be 1 - 3 - 6 (instead of 1-4-5) and it did make it look more elegant. Thanks.

This is why I spend lots of time on this board. I love all the comments and suggestions. Thanks to everyone for their comments. So far it looks like #2 will win out. Prior to posting the pictures, I was truly stumped and kept waffling back and forth. I am going to lay it out tomorrow and will make my final decision. Then onto the job of putting it together.

QuiltE 10-18-2011 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by QandE2010

Originally Posted by QuiltE
Someone once said that borders should never be the same size. OK, there's not rules ... however, since then, I've watched that, and have noted the ones I like better/worse seem to follow that thought.

Just a thought .... for Option 2, play with the widths of the borders a bit. I think you'd get just a wee bit more wow-power if the wider black border was just a tad wider!

I changed the borders on option 2 to be 1 - 3 - 6 (instead of 1-4-5) and it did make it look more elegant. Thanks.

This is why I spend lots of time on this board. I love all the comments and suggestions. Thanks to everyone for their comments. So far it looks like #2 will win out. Prior to posting the pictures, I was truly stumped and kept waffling back and forth. I am going to lay it out tomorrow and will make my final decision. Then onto the job of putting it together.

Like you ... I have learned so much by hanging out here! LOVe every minute of it!

thimblebug6000 10-18-2011 01:45 PM

#2 gets my vote.

DMotyl 10-18-2011 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by luvspaper
I also vote for Option 2....It will be stunning!

agreed!

Scraps 10-18-2011 02:05 PM

OPTION 2

hensandhollyhocks 10-18-2011 02:12 PM

I vote for #2.

GreatStarter 10-18-2011 02:15 PM

Option 2 is what my eyes are drawn to.

Foxflower 10-18-2011 02:15 PM

Taking out the lines really changed the way they look! I would have initially voted for #2, but now I think #1 is better. The borders look like a picture frame. They are all beautiful however. I can see why it's hard for you to decide!!!!

timepasser 10-18-2011 02:16 PM

#2 very pretty

TerryQuilter 10-18-2011 02:17 PM

#2

Jim's Gem 10-18-2011 02:18 PM

Option 2

QUILTNMO 10-18-2011 02:22 PM

i like number 2 also nice quilt

MoanaWahine 10-18-2011 02:33 PM

I might just be added fuel to the fire on this, but what about using the white sashing in option #3 along with the boarders from option #2? I like the look of the larger black boarder and would want to keep this, but the separation of the block and the small black squares around the outer part of the quilt (without boarders) is very appealing to my eye.


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