Skepticism toward first automobiles
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Skepticism toward first automobiles
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Thought this article was fitting for the discussion about purchasing a new car with electric vs gas or hybrid but didn't want to hijack that thread. It seems to be human nature that we are suspicious of new ideas and prefer to stick with what we know, good or bad. There are many stories regarding the fear and suspicion that met the gas powered engine. For myself, I'm not sure what I would chose for a new car, probably a hybrid but I'm not in the market right now. I think that the electric vehicle will get better with time and I am not a climate denier for sure.
Thought this article was fitting for the discussion about purchasing a new car with electric vs gas or hybrid but didn't want to hijack that thread. It seems to be human nature that we are suspicious of new ideas and prefer to stick with what we know, good or bad. There are many stories regarding the fear and suspicion that met the gas powered engine. For myself, I'm not sure what I would chose for a new car, probably a hybrid but I'm not in the market right now. I think that the electric vehicle will get better with time and I am not a climate denier for sure.
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Everyone says “ Go Electric,” it’s better for the environment. I want to know where all the electricity is supposed to come from. Hydro electric, well most places are in drought conditions. Anyone building new power plants? Massive solar farms? Where’s the infrastructure and plug ins? Sorry to be a Debbie Downer .
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Everyone says “ Go Electric,” it’s better for the environment. I want to know where all the electricity is supposed to come from. Hydro electric, well most places are in drought conditions. Anyone building new power plants? Massive solar farms? Where’s the infrastructure and plug ins? Sorry to be a Debbie Downer .
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I would like to know how many hours to 'recharge' these things. If one is traveling- where are the plugs & are reservations needed???? What is the cost? How many miles will the thing go, or will hills & elevation kick in to reduce ones travel??? How much to get a plug into the garage & will the electric box need to be upgraded? Will marginal electric suppliers- con ed or tva or cal electric really have the capacity to deal with the influx of 'needs'?
So far, many questions & a certain someone high in DC has very little as to answers.
sewverybusy1
So far, many questions & a certain someone high in DC has very little as to answers.
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My husband was saying that since new batteries for most of the EV's cost upwards of $12,000 and since all of the EV's use specialized batteries, new batteries might not even be available, the cars are probably going to become disposable cars. So that after 10 years, no one will want them and they will be useless which would create a huge mess as far as what becomes of all that plastic and electronics? Talk about a disaster for the environment!
Sewverybusy, as far as travel, I'm thinking the American road trip will be dead. I heard that they had tested one of the new full size trucks and when towing, it got 85 miles per charge. I can't imagine having to stop every 100 miiles and spend an hour or so recharging your vehicle. And what happens when you get to your remote destination? I'm not sure how many chargers you're going to find in the mountains or a park. As far as the chargers for your home, I think one fast charger comes with the vehicle. I have no idea how it's installed or what the capabilities are needed for it. It very well could be that you'll need to upgrade your electric system or at least install a different box. I think the slow chargers work off of your regular electric but take hours to re-charge.
Sewverybusy, as far as travel, I'm thinking the American road trip will be dead. I heard that they had tested one of the new full size trucks and when towing, it got 85 miles per charge. I can't imagine having to stop every 100 miiles and spend an hour or so recharging your vehicle. And what happens when you get to your remote destination? I'm not sure how many chargers you're going to find in the mountains or a park. As far as the chargers for your home, I think one fast charger comes with the vehicle. I have no idea how it's installed or what the capabilities are needed for it. It very well could be that you'll need to upgrade your electric system or at least install a different box. I think the slow chargers work off of your regular electric but take hours to re-charge.
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Interesting question. Makes me wonder if our gas pumps work during a power outage. I think they require electicity.
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Unless the power outage is wide spread like after a storm, they do work. Even sometimes after a hurricane, the gas stations around us will have operable pumps. The credit card machine usually don't work so you have to use cash, but can get gas. Ordinary brown outs don't affect the pumps. One of the advantages of gas as a fuel is that you can store it. Before a storm we fill up all 5 cars (2 of which are very easy to siphon from) and have enough to last til things come back up. Electricity isn't stored except in the battery of the car and I have no idea how long before those batteries are dead.