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    1887 domestic

    I just got this style of sewing machine. I know nothing of how to date them yet and have to read more on the board. This is not mine in the photo, but mine looks like this one. I can't find much information on it. I read on the metal when i pulled out the drawer that it said Pat. Aug 9 1887. Is this the date it was made? How do I date it? On the cabinet on the little fold out it has a number stamped in the wood. It is like 630 or something like that. How many were made?

    What needles do I need or what ones are compatible with this machine? It was my great grandmas, then my grandmas and now I have it and will give it to my daughter. I hope I can get it working. Thanks
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    Look for brand name, serial #, model # on it. Maybe we can help if we have more information about it. I would love to have a treadle machine.

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    There are folks who hang out here who can give you all kinds of info about your treadle. (I'm not one of them.) You'll need to take a photo of the sewing machine, itself, and post it for someone to help you to the next stage. First, they have to figure out what brand it is, then hopefully, what model number it is. Then, what needs to happen to get it to sew again.
    Take a good, fairly close photo of the sewing machine from the front, the back, the top and each end. Just get it in some good light and use your phone or whatever camera you use. If you have any trouble posting, let us know and someone will help.

    Congrats on getting your ggrand's sewing machine. I have my mom's 15-91 and wonder whatever happened to my grandmother's treadle.

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    Where do I find the serial number? There is a number on the plate in the front. I will post a photo, but not sure anyone can read it. It is 1222290 I am not sure if that is it or not. It is in the garage, so I can't get great photos. I am really excited to have it! Thanks for any help.Name:  17968221_10155250299943466_821880864_o.jpg
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Size:  91.6 KBIt has decals on it, but they are not very bright. It just says Domestic and has decor swirls and such.

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Size:  96.8 KBI guess this is the nifty bobbin winder. I have about 5 bobbins. I also need to get a belt for it. Any one better than the other. I see a big price range.Cheap $2 up to about $10. I also do have the wooden box cover that goes with it.
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    How lucky you are to have something that has been passed down in your family for generations. You might find more info on Domestic sewing machines at http://ismacs.net/domestic/home.html. There are probably a lot of pictures on the vintage board here as well. Try seaching for domestic in the search box next to the help tab above. Enjoy your new play toy!

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    Ok, thanks! I was looking for a search box! I have found a few others, but none have the bobbin winder like mine.

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    You should get more responses tomorrow. Another site where the folks love treadles is victoriansweatshop.com. Another is treadleon.net. There are also yahoo groups for treadle machines. I'm sure you'll get all the help you need to love and care for your machine.

    Good luck.

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    great that you got it. Yes, the serial # on you rmachine is the one stamped into the slide. If you slide the slide toward you there should be (cross your fingers) a bullet shaped shuttle that moves front to back as you turn the handwheel.
    your bobbins go in it.
    you have a vibrating shuttle, fiddleback leaf tension machine. Those words may become important as you explore your machine.

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    Welcome jlamere
    How great to have a machine that has stayed in the family for so long. I'm glad you are wanting to pass it on to your daughter. Have you looked at http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...v-t167789.html ?

    Sewing machine oil is your friend and lots of cotton balls and rags. If you take some of the metal parts off you can use some other products to shine the metal up. As the saying "a word to the wise" goes - take lots of pictures if you take stuff off to polish up.

    It looks like the manual for your machine is probably this one http://ismacs.net/domestic/manuals/d...ine-manual.pdf

    Also the Needlebar site does have a picture of a hand crank with the top tension like yours and the bobbin winder, too

    I'm sure someone more more knowledgeable about Domestic machines will give you some more info. I'm pretty sure the serial number is 1222290. The other dates are of the patents and so it would be dated after the last one, but it could be a number of years.

    Have fun getting it back into working order.

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    I prefer the rubber treadle belts, but a leather one works fine too. Sew-Classic is a good site to order parts from. The belt will stretch so you will have to adjust it a time or two. I like the rubber because they have a connector that is easier to deal w/than the staple thingy on the leather belts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrisIrene View Post
    you have a vibrating shuttle, fiddleback leaf tension machine.

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    Fiddle base machine.

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    Thank you all so much for the information. I went out last night to turn the wheel and it will only move half way up. The bobbin case is in the back and it will only move to the needle area. I am guessing when I get it cleaned and oiled it will work ok. I also have my great grandmas sewing machine from the other side of the family!! I have had it a while and it is in bad shape and pretty rusty. I will post photos of it sometime. I am super happy about getting this!! I have done a little research on the dates of My Great grandmas birth and death...She was born in 1873, so, I am wondering if this was actually bought by her mom!! I am not sure if she would have been able to buy it when she was that young or not. Also, what is the money value on this? It will never be sold, but just curious. Thanks so much for all your help! You are all very kind! I could hardly sleep last night knowing I have that machine! My family were farmers. I have one photo of my great grandpa, ggrandma avoided the cameras. I am going on thursday to get what a second cousin thinks is the only photo of her. Thanks again!

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    Jlamere,
    Your machine needs oiling. Last weekend I was working on a 1900 Singer 28k, that would only go half way around. Two days later, after much cleaning and oiling it sews a beautiful stitch.
    Sharon in Texas

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    Sorry, Cari is right. Thanks Fiddle base.

    Don't rush getting it to move freely. You can do damage if you get aggressive.

    Those very old machines costs months worth of men's salaries back then. Singer became huge because of paying in installments. Unlikely that a youth would buy one. Many women didn't have a lot of control over the finances yet.

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    Yes, I will take my time and oil it up. I been watching the videos and trying to find out as much about it as I can. When I looked at the birthday of my great grandma my head was spinning!! I figured her parents bought that...I just love it. Thanks so much for all your help and time to share your knowledge. I also posted the old singer I have, don't know a lot about it, but it was my other great grandmas. Not in good shape though.

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    I love it.
    Never put off what you can do today, because tomorrow may never come.

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    jlamere, I'm guessing you may have already seen http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...e-t265625.html I'm thinking that the notched Domestic needles look like what is in the manual, but I DO NOT know.

    I was hoping jlhmnj or Macybaby would pop in and tell you which needle this machine uses. Jon (jlhmnj) has a link to his ebay store (linked in his signature), or you could PM either one. I know Jon was quite helpful when I was looking for a non-15x1 needle that is used on modern and many vintage machines.

    Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.
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    thanks

    Yes, I ordered some needles from him. Thanks!



    Quote Originally Posted by OurWorkbench View Post
    jlamere, I'm guessing you may have already seen http://www.quiltingboard.com/vintage...e-t265625.html I'm thinking that the notched Domestic needles look like what is in the manual, but I DO NOT know.

    I was hoping jlhmnj or Macybaby would pop in and tell you which needle this machine uses. Jon (jlhmnj) has a link to his ebay store (linked in his signature), or you could PM either one. I know Jon was quite helpful when I was looking for a non-15x1 needle that is used on modern and many vintage machines.

    Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jlamere View Post
    Thank you all so much for the information. I went out last night to turn the wheel and it will only move half way up. The bobbin case is in the back and it will only move to the needle area. I am guessing when I get it cleaned and oiled it will work ok. I also have my great grandmas sewing machine from the other side of the family!! I have had it a while and it is in bad shape and pretty rusty. I will post photos of it sometime. I am super happy about getting this!! I have done a little research on the dates of My Great grandmas birth and death...She was born in 1873, so, I am wondering if this was actually bought by her mom!! I am not sure if she would have been able to buy it when she was that young or not. Also, what is the money value on this? It will never be sold, but just curious. Thanks so much for all your help! You are all very kind! I could hardly sleep last night knowing I have that machine! My family were farmers. I have one photo of my great grandpa, ggrandma avoided the cameras. I am going on thursday to get what a second cousin thinks is the only photo of her. Thanks again!
    If Great GrandMa was born in 1873 and the last patent date on the Domestic is 1887 this possibly could have been a wedding present depending on wedding year. I'd estimate the Domestic was made from 1887 to mid 1890's. Fantastic to have 2 sewing machines handed down by the family.

    Jon

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