J Miller

If the tension indicator is on the left as you look at your pic, that puts it to the rear. I've got 8 clones and a couple of them were set that way. Makes no sense like that. You don't sit behind the machine, so with the tension indicator back there you can't see it. It should be in the front so you can see it. Or have I misunderstood what you said.

I'm like Miriam, I take each one apart, scrub it, de-oil it, then reassemble it with the indicator at the front where it should be and adjust accordingly.

Keep working with it, you'll get it.

Joe

J Miller

Sarabela,

I have been studying your pic and my wife looked at it too. First the thread check spring should be horizontal when at rest. Yours is pointing down a bit. My wife said it looks like the tension might be 180° out. I agree with her.

Here is a pic of my Commodore's top tension with the then new check spring.
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It It had a broken spring on it when I got so I completely redid it.

Here's my Morse 200, it's top tension is more like yours:
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When this pic was taken it hadn't been cleaned or adjusted and the indicator marks are just a bit higher than I set mine.

And here is a suggestion I'm surprised hasn't been given yet. Go to TFSR { http://www.tfsr.org/publications/tec...machine_manual }, read it thoroughly.
R&R, clean and adjust that tension before you get to the point of pulling your hair out. The TFSR manual has very clear and detailed instructions on how to do this.

It took me a long time to hunt up these pics and post this, so if I've miss something or am mistaken about way your problem is, please forgive.

Joe

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joe thanks for putting time into this. I think you just solved my problem on this Philippines made singer. It's half breed 15 / 66. It's apparent everyone having it has had problems with it's upper tensoiner

In looking over that site, I see now that it's a 15 / 201 not a 66 at the head ( take up and tension) with I luck I have enough parts to make up a tensioner

J Miller

10X,

You mean one of these?
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I think they are more of a 15/66 than a 15/201. The stitch length regulator is like a 15, but the rest of the machine is like a 66.

~OR~ Do you have a different design?

Joe

Sarabela

That is correct, the indicator is at the back. I thought that was pretty strange.

Sarabela

Joe, thank you so much! I have printed out the pages from the link you posted that pertain to the tension of the model 15. I am going to work on taking it apart and cleaning it up tonight and tomorrow. Your pictures helped a lot. It does look like the tension spring points down a lot more than yours do.

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joe no. I did post a photo of it and will again once the cabinet is back together. on that one every thing is 15 except the take up lever system. and now the tension is the style used on a 201

so bobbin case ect = 15 take up lever maybe 201/66. and uses a different face plate.

sara the position of the spring is adjustable, you'll see how once you start working on it

J Miller

10x,

I must have missed the pic, or just don't remember it. Looking forward to seeing it again.

Joe

Sarabela

How do I take this apart? I tried twisting the end and it doesn't seem to unscrew. The instructions posted above show a different mechanism.

J Miller

Sarabela,

This style is a combination of the newer and older.

To remove the knob, push the numbered ring away from it, then turn it counter clock wise.
The TFSR manual unfortunately stops too soon for the tensions. I forgot about that.

Once you get the knob off you should be able to use the Class 15 instructions from there.
The center shaft is a split shaft as shown in the manual. When you reassemble it there are several adjustments you can use to make things (especially the +/- ring face correctly)



Joe