Help identifying old Singer

Old 03-03-2024, 11:16 AM
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I've tried using the website https://www.sandman-collectibles.com...achines.htm#36 but I can't quite match it to the result as it gives me an electric machine and this one is clearly hand-cranked.

I don't actually have the machine in my possession but I'm considering buying it. These are the seller's pictures. I can only include 5 pictures so I have left the remaining pictures as links which you can click to view.







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Old 03-03-2024, 11:44 AM
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Model 66 made in 1937. There were 15,000 made at that time so it's not that rare. The handcrank is a bonus! Lucky you!

Info was found here:
https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mac...l-numbers.html

It's a great little portable size with a beautiful case. I'd buy it.

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Old 03-03-2024, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sewbizgirl View Post
Model 66 made in 1937. There were 15,000 made at that time so it's not that rare. The handcrank is a bonus! Lucky you!

Info was found here:
https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mac...l-numbers.html

It's a great little portable size with a beautiful case. I'd buy it.
Thank you so much for the fast response! I think I will buy it
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Old 03-03-2024, 01:20 PM
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Actually, I believe it is a 99K which is 3/4 size of the 99. I agree with the bonus of being a hand crank. Early machines were either a hand crank or treadle. Later the options included a motor version. From what I can make out of the serial number it looks like the serial number was allocated June 11, 1937. https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mac...l-numbers.html If you notice the decals kind of go over the bump leading to the nose of the machine. Here is another site that has lots of other Singer machines, but look for hammerhead and notice it is for 99. http://vssmb.blogspot.com/2011/08/vi...ingers_16.html

The only Class 99k with hand crank was 99K2 listed at https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mac...sses-1-99.html but it has small tension discs. I looked at some other parts manuals and there are hand cranks for some of the other 99Ks. I couldn't find a parts list for 99K2.

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ETA - The K after the 99 just means that it was made at the Kilbowie plant in Scotland.

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Old 03-03-2024, 01:35 PM
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Actually, I believe it is a 99K which is 3/4 size of the 99. I agree with the bonus of being a hand crank. Early machines were either a hand crank or treadle. Later the options included a motor version. From what I can make out of the serial number it looks like the serial number was allocated June 11, 1937. https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mac...l-numbers.html If you notice the decals kind of go over the bump leading to the nose of the machine. Here is another site that has lots of other Singer machines, but look for hammerhead and notice it is for 99. http://vssmb.blogspot.com/2011/08/vi...ingers_16.html

The only Class 99k with hand crank was 99K2 listed at https://ismacs.net/singer_sewing_mac...sses-1-99.html but it has small tension discs. I looked at some other parts manuals and there are hand cranks for some of the other 99Ks. I couldn't find a parts list for 99K2.

Have fun with it.

ETA - The K after the 99 just means that it was made at the Kilbowie plant in Scotland.
Thank you! The 66 and 99 look very similar from what I can see though I suppose if they were standing side by side you'd be able to tell by the size. Why does the serial number indicate a 66 if it's a 99? Or could it be that although it looks like a EB36 the serial number is actually EB86? That would put it in the 99 class according to that serial number chart and it's not the clearest picture.
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Could be, it is hard to tell, especially from a picture what the serial number actually is. Sometimes even with it in front of you it is sometimes hard to read the serial number. On rare occasions there are some mistakes in the serial numbers as to the actual model of the machine. But because of the shape of the head and the decals position, it is a 99K.
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I can't see the serial but it sure looks like a 99 to me.

BUT - that hand crank looks like the cheap repro crank. If it is, it's not worth a plug nickel. Some will disagree about the quality.
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If it is a reproduction they did a great deal of work to get matching decals on it. Most of the reproductions ones that I've seen have Chinese symbols on them. Seems like sometime back they had some without any gold.

If you look at https://cloud.tevildo.top/s/aMyoe2pPTeXAgbH/preview the belt guard and the hand crank have the same decals.

Another reason I believe is original hand crank is the wooden handle instead of plastic. Granted it is possible that someone could have managed to find decals to match and replace the plastic handle, but I sincerely doubt that is the case with this machine.

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Originally Posted by OurWorkbench View Post
If it is a reproduction they did a great deal of work to get matching decals on it. Most of the reproductions ones that I've seen have Chinese symbols on them. Seems like sometime back they had some without any gold.

If you look at https://cloud.tevildo.top/s/aMyoe2pPTeXAgbH/preview the belt guard and the hand crank have the same decals.

Another reason I believe is original hand crank is the wooden handle instead of plastic. Granted it is possible that someone could have managed to find decals to match and replace the plastic handle, but I sincerely doubt that is the case with this machine.
I could be wrong. I'll admit it was a quick glance and I wanted to be sure the buyer knew to check before forking over a lot of money for $20 amazon junk. The difference in value is significant.

The handle itself does seem to have patina.
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Old 03-04-2024, 07:36 AM
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Thank you very much for the help. I picked it up today. The serial number was EB39 which matches to 99K



The crank looks legitimate to me but admittedly I don't know a lot about it. It's my first machine.



I have a lot to learn now. I will try to clean and oil it, and try my first stitches. Thanks again!
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