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Thread: Mercury Electric Dial-O-Matic, picture heavy

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    Mercury Electric Dial-O-Matic, picture heavy

    I received a call yesterday from my OJCG. He said he had another "very nice" sewing machine and he wanted $80.00 for it. He Emailed me some pictures and I told him that what he wanted was waaay too much. After a lot of haggling and standing firm on my offer of $35.00 he sold it to me. I met him to pick it up and he offered me a Singer puzzle box for $10.00. I took that also as it was complete, even had the little screw drivers in it.

    The case show very little wear, hooray! This sewing machine has been used in the past as it is very linty. The only scratches on the bed and pillar is likely from the foot controller and they are very light. The wiring is perfect, another hooray. So I oiled her up and greased the motor, plugged her in, turned on the light switch (even the light works) and she runs like a dream. But, what did I expect? Of course she runs, she is a Japanese clone. The motor and the bobbin case and race tell me that this machine was made by Morse. The serial number is TA-133996. I think I "did good" on this one!



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    My blue clone looks very similar to this one. Have you tried FMQing on it? I tried lowering the foot pressure and like 2 or 3 different FMQing feet and it just didn't want to do it.

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    ​I have not cleaned the innards yet. That is this morning's project. There is a knob at the bottom of the pillar to lower the feed dogs. Once she is cleaned up I will do some test stitching and FMQ.
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    O.K. let me know how it goes. It may be, that the only way I can do it with this machine, is to use a spring needle(which I don't really like for safety reasons).

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    I think that I have one of those plastic "Big Foot" attachments that may work for FMQ. This machine did not come with any accessories or attachments.
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    Caroline, I have quite a few FMQing feet:<

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    Nice machine. Love that face plate. Your case is like my SEWMOR 404 case used to be before it was busted to bits by the shippers. Same color, same shape, same corner braces on the corners.

    But .... you said: "So I oiled her up and greased the motor, <snip>" Ummmm, that not be a grease it type motor, that be an oil it type motor. Just thought I'd tell you that.


    As for machine embroidery I tried some with my HOTHER. I found that dropping the dogs and using one of those bouncy spring loaded feet/attachments it worked pretty good. I haven't tried FMQ'ing with any of these machines yet.

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    Ooooooo, that is a pretty one!

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    Caroline,

    I have a blue Morse with a bobbin winder that looks similar to yours. Unfortunately I took the bobbin winder apart to clean and can't for the life of me get it back together correctly. Would it be too much to ask you to take a few pics of the bobbin winder from different angles so I can get an idea of what the correct position would be for the parts. Thanks for any help on this.
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    Joe, I was not sure if it was a grease it or oil it motor. So far it is not protesting about the grease. How can I tell if it is oil or grease?

    Kitsy. I will take some pictures of the bobbin winder for you. I have not ever taken one apart before so can't help you with how to re-assemble one.

    I have some more pictures to post of cleaning lint out of the feed dogs and bobbin race. She was loaded with it. I don't think she had ever been cleaned out before.
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    Caroline,

    This is gonna sound like I'm trying to be a "know it all" which I'm not, but the only SM motors I know of that use grease as lube are Singers. If you pull a motor like that one apart you'll usually find a felt washer surrounding a bronze bushing. The felt holds the oil in the bushing area as the bushing absorbs it.

    If your motor gets hot enough the grease might melt into the bushings ... "if" it's not Tri-Flow. If it is get as much out as you can and oil it with sewing machine oil. I'd oil it anyway.

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    ah - do join the clone club - post a pic here: http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...p-t164361.html
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    The grease I used was Triflow. I removed as possible using a GUM brush that my dentist gave me. Handy sewing machine tool for cleaning tight places. Thanks Joe. I learn something new everyday, especially about motors. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    ah - do join the clone club - post a pic here: http://www.quiltingboard.com/picture...p-t164361.html
    I will do that Miriam. Right now I am fighting/fixing the stitch regulator which does not work. It did not like the bobbin case I first used (that was missing) so I took the one out of my Belair to use. The Mercury liked it. It does make a nice stitch though but all I can get is a long stitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caroline S View Post
    I will do that Miriam. Right now I am fighting/fixing the stitch regulator which does not work. It did not like the bobbin case I first used (that was missing) so I took the one out of my Belair to use. The Mercury liked it. It does make a nice stitch though but all I can get is a long stitch.
    Get a flashlight and look up in there - look for something that is suppose to move and won't - then oil it - maybe needs a little heat
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    Be careful though, you might find a mouse nest like Miriam's got in a couple of her machines. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Miller View Post
    Caroline,

    This is gonna sound like I'm trying to be a "know it all" which I'm not, but the only SM motors I know of that use grease as lube are Singers. If you pull a motor like that one apart you'll usually find a felt washer surrounding a bronze bushing. The felt holds the oil in the bushing area as the bushing absorbs it.

    If your motor gets hot enough the grease might melt into the bushings ... "if" it's not Tri-Flow. If it is get as much out as you can and oil it with sewing machine oil. I'd oil it anyway.

    Joe
    White 77 Rotaries also have grease tubes. As a general rule, if it takes grease there'll be tubes hanging beneath the motor to unscrew & fill with grease. If it takes oil, there'll be oil holes.

    And I've always heard to only use Tri-Flow grease on gears...Use Singer Lubricant on motors.
    Last edited by path49; 09-06-2012 at 07:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Get a flashlight and look up in there - look for something that is suppose to move and won't - then oil it - maybe needs a little heat
    I guess some pictures of the Dial-O-Matic stitch regulator are in order. I removed the stitch regulator assembly and everything inside appears to be working inside, not frozen. Perhaps this one will need to go to the OSMG and see if he can figure it out. This one may be beyond my limited fixing abilities. FRUSTRATING!
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    Very nice...and I'm proud of your negotiating skills! You go girl!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caroline S View Post
    I guess some pictures of the Dial-O-Matic stitch regulator are in order. I removed the stitch regulator assembly and everything inside appears to be working inside, not frozen. Perhaps this one will need to go to the OSMG and see if he can figure it out. This one may be beyond my limited fixing abilities. FRUSTRATING!
    Is the dial not turning? Or is it a lever? What is going on? I have one that the dial and the reverse button froze up. I had to get way in there and soak the inside with Triflow - I must have oiled it every day for a week and gave up on it. I went back a month later and it works fine. The stuff just has to get in to the right places. On mine, there is a thing in there shaped like a ramp like thing - it was gunky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miriam View Post
    Is the dial not turning? Or is it a lever? What is going on? I have one that the dial and the reverse button froze up. I had to get way in there and soak the inside with Triflow - I must have oiled it every day for a week and gave up on it. I went back a month later and it works fine. The stuff just has to get in to the right places. On mine, there is a thing in there shaped like a ramp like thing - it was gunky.
    Nothing is frozen and dial turns well. Too well! The dial turns and turns, something is too loose in my opinion. It is not engaging something inside enough to change the stitch length, the reverse lever works OK. I took some pics but will have to take some more as they did not turn out well enough to post. I will take the machine outside to have better light for pics and will post pics.
    Sweet Caroline

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    Update to Stitch Length Selector problem

    I did some more fiddling with the Stitch Length Selector this afternoon. There is some kind screw in the center of the dial that sits behind the set screw in the center of the dial. By taking a small screwdriver and turning the center screw I was able to move that pointy end that juts out of the back. It is the pointy thing that engages with the mechanism inside and adjusts the stitch length. The first stitches were six to an inch, nowI am now getting a respectable 10 stitches to an inch and am not going to mess with it any more.

    I also had to spend some time adjusting the upper tension. That was a chore because the upper tension dial is not numbered. I also decided that the first bobbin case that I tried was not going to defeat me either. I played with it's tension screw. Voila, both upper and lower tensions are balanced and providing a perfect stitch.

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    Caroline, it is gunked up inside... I can see it.
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    Gorgeous! Let us know how she sews!

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    She is a beauty! I think you did very well.

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