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Seijun 07-21-2017 06:17 PM

Domestic Rotary 153
 
Hello,
I am here because I just purchased a Domestic Rotary 153. It needs some work, and I am unsure how to fix it. It seems to have only two immediate problems:

#1 - The spool pin closest to the front of the machine is bent over at a 30 degree angle. Are these pins removable?

#2 - The rubber piece on the friction motor (that rubs against the disc wheel) has developed a dent from resting in one spot for... decades. The dent is so deep that the motor can no longer drive the disc wheel. It seems that somewhere in the world, there should be a little rubber something that would be a suitable replacement, but I have no idea what to search for. Any ideas?

QuiltnNan 07-22-2017 03:18 AM

Welcome from western NY and happy quilting :)
sorry, can't help with the machine

OurWorkbench 07-22-2017 04:26 AM

Welcome Seijun


Originally Posted by Seijun (Post 7868360)
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#1 - The spool pin closest to the front of the machine is bent over at a 30 degree angle. Are these pins removable?
...

John has bent a spool pin in place, but I wasn't around when he did it. I'm sure they are removable as have seen many machines without spool pins, LOL. Some are tap in and some are screw in. Have you tried oiling the base and protect pin while trying to unscrew?


Originally Posted by Seijun (Post 7868360)
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#2 - The rubber piece on the friction motor (that rubs against the disc wheel) has developed a dent from resting in one spot for... decades. The dent is so deep that the motor can no longer drive the disc wheel. It seems that somewhere in the world, there should be a little rubber something that would be a suitable replacement, but I have no idea what to search for. Any ideas?

This is a common problem machines with a friction drive pulley.
https://sewwhatman.wordpress.com/201...-drive-wheels/
http://shop.sew-classic.com/Pulley-R...ary-LN379A.htm
http://shop.sew-classic.com/Pulley-R...aller-5767.htm

Your machine is very similar to White Rotary machines. There is a recent thread regarding White Rotary that might help - https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...y-t289672.html

If you don't have a manual for your machine, there is one at http://ismacs.net/domestic/manuals/d...ine-manual.pdf

You might want to check out https://sites.google.com/site/sewmac...tic-rotary-153


Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Seijun 07-24-2017 08:31 PM

Awesome links, thank you so much! So unfortunately I won't be getting this machine until August 3rd. The thrift store I bought it from is going to deliver it to me, but it is quite a wait. I do remember, however, that the non-bent spindle could spin freely in either direction. I thought it was supposed to do that, but maybe it is a screw in type?

My plan of action for the rubber wheel is to first try patching the dent with Sugru. I don't know how well it will bond or hold up under use, so it might be only a temporary fix. I will keep you posted.

This machine does include an instruction manual and a ton of attachments. It is such a gorgeous piece of equipment. It will be my second machine, my first being a White Automatic 666.

Seijun 08-06-2017 06:47 PM

Just an update on this machine. I was able to bend the spool pin back into place without any trouble. I attempted to fix the dented motor tire with sugru. It seemed like a good idea, but the sugru does not have enough grip on the disc wheel, and instead spins uselessly against it.

I have ordered the Kennmore tire #5767. The diameter should be correct for the motor shaft on the Domestic. I also ordered a replacement lightbulb. Fingers crossed.

OurWorkbench 08-07-2017 04:57 AM

Glad to hear got spool pin straightened. Glad you have replacement drive pulley on the way.

I forgot that John posted about another solution about dented drive pulleys that might work in a pinch at https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...h-t265423.html

I've read about sugru but have never used it.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

SusieQOH 08-07-2017 05:09 AM

I hope you post a pic when you get it. I love old machines!!

Seijun 08-07-2017 09:22 PM

I have run into a new problem: trying to remove the old bobbin winder tire. In a separate thread someone mentioned the 153 tire as just "sliding off" but mine seems firmly attached. What am I missing?

There are some good pics here of a 153 bobbin winder (not mine)

OurWorkbench 08-08-2017 02:35 AM


Originally Posted by Seijun (Post 7882222)
I have run into a new problem: trying to remove the old bobbin winder tire. In a separate thread someone mentioned the 153 tire as just "sliding off" but mine seems firmly attached. What am I missing?

I'm a little confused. Why do you want to remove the tire? If the tire is firmly attached and not cracked or loose, that is what you want. If you engage the lever so the tire is against the hand wheel and then turn the hand wheel toward the back of the machine (normal direction for sewing) by hand, does the tire rotate? There is an oil hole between the tire and where the bobbin is placed. can you rotate the tire by hand and have the other end rotate. You don't want to get any oil on the tire.

As mentioned at https://www.quiltingboard.com/vintag...e-t272857.html it is really harder to get a new tire back on than it is to remove the old one. If the tire works as it should, I would recommend leaving it alone. If you are wanting to take it off, and wanting to put it back on..... I would suggest that you have a replacement in hand. I sincerely doubt that old rubber tires are any where near as supple as a new one and will break trying to get it off. There are different sizes of tires.

Janey - Neat people never make the exciting discoveries I do.

Seijun 08-08-2017 06:02 AM

The tire can spin freely, but it is so worn that it no longer makes contact with the hand wheel. I did not notice until last night when I was cleaning it.


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