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CarlP 01-09-2018 10:49 PM

Need help with belt falling off treadle
 
Hi, I am new to the forum. I have a White Family Rotary treadle machine which works well when turned by hand but the belt falls off when I try to turn the machine with the treadle, I have tried the old leather belt, a new leather belt, and a nylon rope but nothing has worked. The belt falls off the back side of the large lower wheel on the first rotation and tightness of the belt doesn't seem to matter, unless it is so loose that is slips.

Does anyone have any ideas?

leonf 01-10-2018 07:04 AM

YOu haven't mentioned checking the big lower drive wheel for wobble. Does it move side to side on the axle?

Try treadlng it without a belt on and gently and carefully putting some side pressure on the wheel..

Welcome aboard

leonf 01-10-2018 07:06 AM

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Some wheel axles are straight and some are beveled. forgot what White did.

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yobrosew 01-10-2018 08:16 AM

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Oft times when fixed or rebuilt over a lifetime of the machines this washer (white arrow) against cabinet is missing, making wobble enough for belt to jump out at green arrow. Same effect if screw at blue arrow is stripped. The treadle wheel itself should not be over-exaggerate in its wobble. If so, again the belt jumps the track. Also, before troubleshooting further, be sure all oil points have been oiled “down below”. Is there any rust build ups.

Do not get iscouraged, I LOVE my White Rotary Treadle! Once you resolve this the machine will most likely be maintenace free from here on out. It is a blast to “drive”!

yobrosew 01-10-2018 08:41 AM

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leonf 01-10-2018 11:02 AM

Thanks yobrosew for the nice shot and directions.. yep, if the framework is loose the wheel will wiggle.

CarlP 01-10-2018 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by yobrosew (Post 7980377)
Oft times when fixed or rebuilt over a lifetime of the machines this washer (white arrow) against cabinet is missing, making wobble enough for belt to jump out at green arrow. Same effect if screw at blue arrow is stripped. The treadle wheel itself should not be over-exaggerate in its wobble. If so, again the belt jumps the track. Also, before troubleshooting further, be sure all oil points have been oiled “down below”. Is there any rust build ups.

Do not get iscouraged, I LOVE my White Rotary Treadle! Once you resolve this the machine will most likely be maintenace free from here on out. It is a blast to “drive”!

This sounds like it might be my problem, the washer that is. It always seems to jump off at the back of the wheel, I'll have to give this a look in the next few days.

I previously oiled the friction points I could reach but I'll do it again when I get under there.

CarlP 01-10-2018 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by leonf (Post 7980338)
YOu haven't mentioned checking the big lower drive wheel for wobble. Does it move side to side on the axle?

Try treadlng it without a belt on and gently and carefully putting some side pressure on the wheel..

Welcome aboard

I haven't checked it for wobble, but I will. What effect does straight vs. beveled axle have?

leonf 01-11-2018 08:08 AM

I suspect that the beveled axle might get looser a little easier than the straight axles. Just a guess though. Easier to adjust if it is, I think.
Not a lot of experience here.


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